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FBI agents are reluctant to pursue white nationalist extremists because they don't want to target Tr

American said:
So everyone in Trump's base is a white supremacist?
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"So everyone in Trump's base is a white supremacist?"

The point is Trump's hard-core base are white nationalist, white supremacist, neo-Nazi, Alt-right, the Jerry Falwell Religious Right/Pat Robertson Christian Broadcasting Network ministries/Focus on the Family James Dobson, Minutemen, blah-blah-blah and all the right-wing domestic terrorists that kill innocent Americans more than do “radical Islamists” right here in the USA. That is the truth. Maybe you think, like Trump, many of them are fine people. Or that some actually support liberal politician. Or…
 
bluesmoke said:
"So everyone in Trump's base is a white supremacist?"

The point is Trump's hard-core base are white nationalist, white supremacist, neo-Nazi, Alt-right, the Jerry Falwell Religious Right/Pat Robertson Christian Broadcasting Network ministries/Focus on the Family James Dobson, Minutemen, blah-blah-blah and all the right-wing domestic terrorists that kill innocent Americans more than do “radical Islamists” right here in the USA. That is the truth. Maybe you think, like Trump, many of them are fine people. Or that some actually support liberal politician. Or…
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Over-generalization, you should have just answered YES, so that you could be dismissed.
 
American said:
Over-generalization, you should have just answered YES, so that you could be dismissed.
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That's funny. I didn't know there were that many that sympathized with those groups.
 
bluesmoke said:
That's funny. I didn't know there were that many that sympathized with those groups.
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They don't, your error is in include people who don't into those groups.
 
d0gbreath said:
Now I'm not following yours. I've never seen, nor heard: altwhite.
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Exactly it was a term another poster made up. If you scroll back you will see how this conversation got yo where you jumped in

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trouble13 said:
I dont know or care how many altright members are people of color. Can you tell us how many are in this altright group and how many of them are people of color?
Regardless of the answer to the question it does not change the fact that the term altright is something from your imagination. Its not a real term.

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Alt right was coined by Richard Spencer. Dont be dense..
 
trouble13 said:
Exactly it was a term another poster made up. If you scroll back you will see how this conversation got yo where you jumped in

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I'm not scrolling up, I'll take your word for it.
 
American said:
They don't, your error is in include people who don't into those groups.
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The question is who identifies with white nationalists and who refutes such ideology. It's always a question of where the line is drawn. Most white people believe that whites are discriminated against but at the same time few admit to experiencing discrimination. It's safe to say the groups I mentioned are staunch Trump supporters. But being a white nationalist, like Trump, doesn't require you be a card-carrying member of some such self-labelled organization. It is a safe bet that all white nationalist/supremacists "American cultural" defenders (a term used to avoid "racist") are Trump supporters. How many of Trump supporters that identify with those groups is unknown.
 
bluesmoke said:
The question is who identifies with white nationalists and who refutes such ideology. It's always a question of where the line is drawn. Most white people believe that whites are discriminated against but at the same time few admit to experiencing discrimination. It's safe to say the groups I mentioned are staunch Trump supporters. But being a white nationalist, like Trump, doesn't require you be a card-carrying member of some such self-labelled organization. It is a safe bet that all white nationalist/supremacists "American cultural" defenders (a term used to avoid "racist") are Trump supporters. How many of Trump supporters that identify with those groups is unknown.
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Who identifies with communists and who refutes such ideology?
 
How reluctant is the FBI to do anything about this virtually non-existent "problem?"

They just manufactured charges against some poor schnook in Vegas for being a terrorist or thought criminal or whatnot...

Witch hunts are AWESOME.
 
American said:
Who identifies with communists and who refutes such ideology?
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The only group I know of that identify with communists is Antifa, because they have people in their loose-knit organization who espouse communism, and the Communist Party USA, who have very few members. Antifa is not a political group. Every other political group I know of refutes the ideology or doesn't bother. Trump has supported Kim and Putin over our own intelligence services, both of whom wish for the demise of America with Kim a Communist and Putin the former head of the Communist KGB secret service.
 
Mach said:
Former [anyone] typically has connections from a long career in service, with people still in that service. I mean, I do, don't you?

Teacher right? You think you won't know any faculty when you retire? I'm sure some do, and if I were a reported, that's who I'd get in touch with.

Anyone in FBI would lose their job if they spoke out like that, it's always...in any such organization, largely up to people who are no longer obligated possibly legally, and certainly as far as their career goes, to not discuss such things outside FBI.

If it's true, do you think it's important for them to communicate that to the public, and what do you think should happen if true?
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Show him the statistics on FBI investigations and prosecutions of white nationalist to show he doesnt have a clue.
 
Winston said:
Ex-FBI boss says agents don't want to target Trump's base - INSIDER



This is ridiculous


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Why, because Trump is good at turning that into a media circus? Because it threatens their job? Because they sympathize?
Because they fear that the community isn't on their side? Because it's too much work? Because Trump's base is somehow a precious commodity that makes America great?

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Some combination of the above?

[sarcasm]Well, instead let's just wait till those white nationalist elements that make up part of Trump's base gather enough wealth and power that they become unstoppable then. That's a great idea! Then we can all watch as a civil war erupts, all because our own FBI is scared of Twumpy and his idiot base having hurt feelings. [/sarcasm]
 
Felis Leo said:
Does Mr. Gomez have evidence of this? Or is this simply his intuition? Because if leaders within the FBI are saying "Hey, lay off the white supremacists! I don't want to get fired!" then that is a scandal. But if he has no evidence of this, this is (1) just an attack on Trump voters, because I see no evidence that the average Trump supporter is a violent white supremacist, and (2) it is simply impugning the integrity of the Bureau.
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LOL, "impugning the integrity of the Bureau"...I love how you folks on the right flit back and forth between standing on ceremony one second and putting the entire federal government on blast another second.

Look, I am in favor of a strong FBI and strong intel/defense/foreign policy as the next red blooded American but if you think that the Bureau is above reproach, state your reasons why.

Because it isn't above reproach:

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ttwtt78640 said:
OK, some "breaking news" from August 2017 is certainly helpful. Perhaps this former agent Gomez simply lost his job (due to those funding cuts?) and is a tad bitter about it.
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Not necessarily due to direct result of funding cuts but as a secondary side effect OF those cuts, which is quite possible.
If you're an honest detective on a police force in a small southern town in the Heart of Dixie in the 1950's, and you are clearly seen as being hot on the trail of internal Klan activity inside that small town police force, would a sudden "budget cut" be specifically targeted at your office and your job?
 
Winston said:
Not everyone is a vindictive asshole motivated by personal grievances. Maybe Gomes is, but what sort of evidence do you have that he is?


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If what twtt said has any merit, then perhaps Gomez has every right to be vindictive and bitter about it.
 
justabubba said:
there should be no doubt that the alt:white is his base
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Let's put it this way, the more you hear that white nationalists are really "lefties in disguise" the more likely you're hearing projection from that part of his base which IS white nationalists, just as surely as the most vocal homophobes are closeted self loathing gay people trying to deflect from their own latent tendencies.

Smoke >>>>>> FIRE
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Not necessarily due to direct result of funding cuts but as a secondary side effect OF those cuts, which is quite possible.
If you're an honest detective on a police force in a small southern town in the Heart of Dixie in the 1950's, and you are clearly seen as being hot on the trail of internal Klan activity inside that small town police force, would a sudden "budget cut" be specifically targeted at your office and your job?
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Many things are possible - which was my point. Alleging X is not proving X - just as showing correlation between A and B is not showing causation of A by B or B by A.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Nope. The alt-right might be a PART of his base but it is not his base.
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Hair splitting detected...
Let's say you are arguing it's 10 percent of his base and most everyone else is arguing that it's 30 percent of his base.
Have you noticed the tsunami of conservatives LEAVING the Republican Party?
No, not just ordinary people, I'm also talking about the massive numbers of retiring professionals, top political historians, consultants, pundits, even lawmakers.

The Democratic Party is shrinking but it is a fact that the Republican Party is shrinking at a greater rate which is several orders of magnitude higher.

That leaves behind what many people now refer to as The Party of Trump.
Sure, not all his base are white nationalists, but it's a growing number by virtue of simple attrition at this point.
 
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