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Trump invokes KKK slogan 'love it or leave it' at North Carolina rally

Taylor said:
To make things worse, I hear that after the rally he appeared to eat a food favored by white nationalists... the "hamburger" - no doubt because of its Nazi origins.
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I hear he seasoned his Freedom Fries with liberal tears; the man is a MONSTER!!!
 
Integrityrespec said:
I think Harris is another Hillary type candidate, comes off as fake and not likable enough to get elected.
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And the Democrat PTB - ever wise! - have already pre-selected her as the candidate to lose to Trump.

Hillary Harris is Hillary.
 
Fletch said:
It was used during the Vietnam War. Was it racist then too? And where is the evidence that this slogan was invented by the KKK?
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I am sure some racist some where said it. Trump needs to look up everything ever said by anyone in history that could be construed to be racist and not use any of those words. Of course we would never hear anything from him again but it is what the left thinks. The left also reward lawless people over law abiding. Consider the source.

Uh oh. Most of the words I used in this post have been used by the KKK at some point or time. Yikes. Oh my God there are millions of words and statement I can never use again. I will have to learn a new language to talk anymore.
 
Taylor said:
To make things worse, I hear that after the rally he appeared to eat a food favored by white nationalists... the "hamburger" - no doubt because of its Nazi origins.
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What's worse, he also said "pass the ketchup", a phrase commonly used by Nazis, KKK members, and pedophiles. It's a dog whistle.

Trump is revolting, but this grasping at straws is useless. Telling US citizens to "go back" to somewhere is bad enough. It doesn't need embellishment by illogical stretches.
 
dixon01767 said:
Obama uses imagery used regularly by the KKK

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More evidence Obama is a fascist. Here he is giving the Nazi salute:

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vanceen said:
~ Telling US citizens to "go back" to somewhere is bad enough ~
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That leads to I asked about before and never really got an answer - didn't Trump promise at inauguration to uphold the constitution?

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
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So - how does this sit with "the Squad" and the first Amendment that Americans always tell us is a wonderful thing which nobody else has? Are you guys going back to the days when the Amendments only applied to white citizens?
 
CRModeration said:
Trump invokes KKK slogan 'love it or leave it' at North Carolina rally | SBS News

Trump invokes slogan used regularly by local SC KKK division in campaign rally

"At a rally in North Carolina, US President Donald Trump doubled down on his attacks against four Democratic congresswomen and appeared to invoke a slogan used by white nationalists telling them to 'love it or leave it'."

“If they don’t love it, tell them to leave it" - that was US President Donald Trump’s message about four Democratic congresswomen at a rally in North Carolina, where supporters called for one of four female politicians - who was born overseas - to be “sent back”.

“Let ’em leave,” Mr Trump said of the four women. “They’re always telling us how to run it, how to do this, how to do that. You know what? If they don’t love it, tell ’em to leave it.”

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I find it hard to believe that his handlers weren't aware of this reference in this specific area of the country—especially in regards to the topic at hand.

The question is, what level of racial rhetoric does Trump have to use before his supporters find it abhorrent enough to call him out on it? My guess is there is no bottom, no mark to hit on that.
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When you have to imagine **** like this you really, truly have nothing.

Love it or leave it may refer to:

"Love it or leave it", a Siamese twins idiomatic expression

Politics

"Brazil, love it or leave it" (Brasil, ame-o ou deixe-o), nationalist slogan of the Brazilian military dictatorship[citation needed]
"America, love it or leave it", a pseudo-patriotic slogan during the Vietnam War[citation needed]

Film and television

"Love it or Leave it, Change it or Lose it", an episode of the Bracken's World American drama series
Love It or Leave It, a 1971 documentary starring Tina Louise
Kochaj albo rzuć (Love It or Leave It), a Polish 1977 movie by Sylwester Chęciński
Earth: Love It Or Leave It, the 105th episode of the American TV program Country Fried Planet
Italy: Love it, or Leave it, an Italian 2011 documentary and docudrama by Gustav Hofer and Luca Ragazzi

Music

"Love It or Leave It Alone", a song by Etta James on the album Love's Been Rough on Me
"Love It Or Leave It", a song by K.Maro on the album Perfect Stranger
"Love It or Leave It Alone/Welcome to Jamrock", a song by Alicia Keys on the album Unplugged
"Love It or Leave It", a song by Robby Krieger on the album No Habla
"Love It or Leave It Alone", a song by Michie Mee on the album The First Cut Is the Deepest
"Love It or Leave It", a song by Misery Index on the album Hang Em High
"Love It Or Leave It", a song by Heidi Montag on the album Superficial
"Love it or leave it", a song Asaf Avidan on the album Different Pulses
“It's America (Love It or Leave It)", a song written by Jimmy Helms recorded by Ernest Tubbs.
Other uses
Love It Or Leave It, short story by Charles Bukowski on the book Tales of Ordinary Madness
 
CRModeration said:
The slogan was used by the SC KKK as well.

That is very much a group of white supremacists.

What's actually wrong is jackwagons who cite only one major instance of the slogan being used when it's current usage parallels the racial undertones used by the localized KKk.
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In the case of Trump, though, there are real departures from the Democrat party run KKK:

Trump did not mention Race in any part of his Tweet. The media and their partners, the Democrat-Socialist party did.

Trump did not name anyone in his Tweet. The media and their partners, the Democrat-Socialist party did.

Trump asked the folks who he believes hate America (there were no other identifiers) to go home, fix the problems there, and then COME BACK and work on improving America.

IF he was talking about "people of color" AND if his goal is to make America White again as at least one Democrat proclaims, he's doing it wrong.

Assuming that he WAS talking about people of color, why would he invite "people of color" to come back and "show us how it's done" if he wants them gone and never wants to see them again?

The old Klan was virtually 100% Democrat in the pre-70's South. Why is the slogan attributed exclusively to the Klan and not at all to the Democrat Party?

Here's his Tweet. If you'd like to say he was out of line or this was over the top, that's one thing. The only racism is in the eye of the racists reading it.

Trump's tweet: What did he say and why's he being criticised? - CBBC Newsround

"So interesting to see 'progressive' Democrat congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful nation on earth, how our government is to be run.

"Why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime-infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done."
 
Integrityrespec said:
I think Harris is another Hillary type candidate, comes off as fake and not likable enough to get elected.
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I don't know. Hillary lost mainly because she was lazy, had one of the most inept campaign strategies I've seen this side of G.H.W. Bush's 1992 campaign. Her's might have been even worst. That is besides coming over as aloof and elitist to quite a lot of independents.

Give Harris and the others more time. 38% of independents don't have the faintest idea of who she is, that's 28% nationwide, all adults. I'll admit having a 27% very unfavorable rating from independents isn't good when Harris has only a 11% very favorable rating. That's a minus 16, losing territory when it comes to winning the independent vote. Harris does have 62% of independents who never heard of her or fall into the somewhat categories where she could improve on her very favorable's quite a lot. Time will tell.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Honestly, unless the economy crashes and/or Obama runs, I can't see Trump being unseated.
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I look at it the opposite way. I think 2020 is an election for the Democrats to lose, that Trump can't win it, but the Democrats could certainly lose it as they did in 2016. It all boils down to whom the Democrats nominate. It's way to early to go into detail, but the short story is with the right candidate the Democrats win in a landslide, with the wrong candidate, another 2016 is a distinct possibility.

The key isn't either party's base. Trump will drive both bases's to get out and vote. The key is whom the independent voter dislikes the most. In 2016 it was Hillary Clinton. 57% of independents disliked Trump, but 70% disliked Hillary Clinton. My opinion anyway. One has to remember as of 16 June 2019 Gallup put independents as making up 46% of the electorate.

We know a slight majority of independents don't like Trump. Not necessarily his policies, but his uncouth, obnoxious personality. The question is whoever the Democrats nominate, will independents like or dislike their candidate more or less than Trump?
 
CRModeration said:
Yes, we are aware, that's why the headline says "slogan used regularly" by the KKK. .
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The photo of the use of the slogan appeared to be from the 1950s. I wouldnt call that regularly if you have to go that far back to find evidence.
 
code1211 said:
In the case of Trump, though, there are real departures from the Democrat party run KKK:

Trump did not mention Race in any part of his Tweet. The media and their partners, the Democrat-Socialist party did.

Trump did not name anyone in his Tweet. The media and their partners, the Democrat-Socialist party did.

Trump asked the folks who he believes hate America (there were no other identifiers) to go home, fix the problems there, and then COME BACK and work on improving America.
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Even the media was convinced that the 4 THEY named hate America
 
dixon01767 said:
Even the media was convinced that the 4 THEY named hate America
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Well, the hate of America and of anyone who is a citizen of the US embraced by The Squad is obvious. They all seem to be VERY angry!

Trump has forced the coverage of the The Squad by the propagandists in the media and they are obligingly chasing his laser pointer into the wall once again.

This gets funnier every time I look at it. As they attack Trump, they expose themselves. Only the most rabidly devoted Democrat Socialists are still on board.


 
code1211 said:
In the case of Trump, though, there are real departures from the Democrat party run KKK:

Trump did not mention Race in any part of his Tweet. The media and their partners, the Democrat-Socialist party did.

Trump did not name anyone in his Tweet. The media and their partners, the Democrat-Socialist party did.

Trump asked the folks who he believes hate America (there were no other identifiers) to go home, fix the problems there, and then COME BACK and work on improving America.

IF he was talking about "people of color" AND if his goal is to make America White again as at least one Democrat proclaims, he's doing it wrong.

Assuming that he WAS talking about people of color, why would he invite "people of color" to come back and "show us how it's done" if he wants them gone and never wants to see them again?

The old Klan was virtually 100% Democrat in the pre-70's South. Why is the slogan attributed exclusively to the Klan and not at all to the Democrat Party?

Here's his Tweet. If you'd like to say he was out of line or this was over the top, that's one thing. The only racism is in the eye of the racists reading it.

Trump's tweet: What did he say and why's he being criticised? - CBBC Newsround

"So interesting to see 'progressive' Democrat congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful nation on earth, how our government is to be run.

"Why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime-infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done."
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I'm a north American mongrel. Where do I go "home" to?

Do we have any native American congresspeople?

Do THEY get to bitch?

Everybody knows who he was talking about. Exactly where he meant them to go home to.

Do we have other congresspeople who "came" from other countries? (Not that I think trump knows that kind of stuff.)
 
Why should anyone criticize the PAST Dem Party because years ago they were the racist party and the party of the KKK when the CURRENT Republicans won't criticize the modern GOP who is NOW THE racist party and the party of the KKK, Nazis and White Supremacist groups?

The leader of the GOP spews racist crap almost daily now, but nothing but silence from the GOP.

This the Dems were the racist party 50 years ago but lets ignore and excuse the current racist Republicans and Republican party is whataboutism and hypocrisy to the nth degree.
 
ElChupacabra said:
If the Democrats keep chasing the laser light Trump keeps moving around on the floor, he's going to create enough chaos where they will waste time continually reacting to his nonsense. This is the equivalent of getting into a shouting match with a child; you end up reduced to throwing another tantrum and what caused the tantrum doesn't get addressed. From a media perspective he's winning this unfortunately; that is of course his strength so continuing to feed it adds to the chaos. It's the old "squeakiest wheel gets the grease" strategy.

I'm not saying his idiocy shouldn't be addressed, but I think a few concise statements from party leadership chastising his out of line comments should do it. By continually harping about Trump's racism is a distraction opponents can't get mired in for too long lest they look like loons chasing their own shadows, and Trump ends up looking like the saner choice.
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Yo are right, that it directs the conversation to where Trump wants it. Even though discussing his racist Tweet is a negative, it isn't as negative as discussing his fascist immigration policy or the EPA's recent decision not to ban a widely used pesticide that its own experts have linked to serious health problems in children or that Barr just dropped an investigation where the evidence suggests that Trump is as guilty as Michael Cohen.

That's why it's important for Dems to focus on what they want discussed in the media, not what Trump wants. It's going to get interesting when economic growth drops.
 
MTAtech said:
Yo are right, that it directs the conversation to where Trump wants it. Even though discussing his racist Tweet is a negative, it isn't as negative as discussing his fascist immigration policy or the EPA's recent decision not to ban a widely used pesticide that its own experts have linked to serious health problems in children or that Barr just dropped an investigation where the evidence suggests that Trump is as guilty as Michael Cohen.

That's why it's important for Dems to focus on what they want discussed in the media, not what Trump wants. It's going to get interesting when economic growth drops.
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The 2018 bump is starting to even out, so yes, it will get interesting when there isn't that same momentum to push as an advantage to having him in office.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
That leads to I asked about before and never really got an answer - didn't Trump promise at inauguration to uphold the constitution?



So - how does this sit with "the Squad" and the first Amendment that Americans always tell us is a wonderful thing which nobody else has? Are you guys going back to the days when the Amendments only applied to white citizens?
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Why do you think that the first amendment should not apply to the President?
 
Taylor said:
Why do you think that the first amendment should not apply to the President?
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It's not about First Amendment rights. Everyone, including the president, has a constitutional right to say stupid things. That doesn't mean it is right to say stupid things. It also doesn't mean that there shouldn't be ramifications for saying those stupid things.
 
MTAtech said:
It's not about First Amendment rights. Everyone, including the president, has a constitutional right to say stupid things. That doesn't mean it is right to say stupid things. It also doesn't mean that there shouldn't be ramifications for saying those stupid things.
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Yes, I hope Infinite Chaos reads your post.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Why should anyone criticize the PAST Dem Party because years ago they were the racist party and the party of the KKK when the CURRENT Republicans won't criticize the modern GOP who is NOW THE racist party and the party of the KKK, Nazis and White Supremacist groups?

The leader of the GOP spews racist crap almost daily now, but nothing but silence from the GOP.

This the Dems were the racist party 50 years ago but lets ignore and excuse the current racist Republicans and Republican party is whataboutism and hypocrisy to the nth degree.
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No need to apologize for anything regarding the GOP that the left makes up about the GOP. Name any Republican politician who has EVER been in the KKK. Believe Senator Byrd was the last of the many Democratic politicians to actually be members of the KKK
 
Taylor said:
Why do you think that the first amendment should not apply to the President?
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So you're happy he is upholding the constitution by riling his supporters up to the point they chant to kick a fellow American citizen out of America?

Taylor said:
Yes, I hope Infinite Chaos reads your post.
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I did. Basically the inauguration speech is an empty meaningless promise then, got it.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
So you're happy he is upholding the constitution by riling his supporters up to the point they chant to kick a fellow American citizen out of America?
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I don't know why you think that is "upholding the Constitution" but the audience chants certainly do not run contrary to it.

I'm very happy not to live in a country where authoritarianism dictates how people are allowed to express themselves. I guess you feel safer with the government in charge of what you can and cannot say?
 
dixon01767 said:
No need to apologize for anything regarding the GOP that the left makes up about the GOP. Name any Republican politician who has EVER been in the KKK. Believe Senator Byrd was the last of the many Democratic politicians to actually be members of the KKK
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Besides Trump name the last POTUS who said there were some 'very fine people' that were Nazis and/or white supremacists?

There's 'fine' people who are Nazis? LOL.. Not now, not ever..
 
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