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Trump invokes KKK slogan 'love it or leave it' at North Carolina rally

3leftsdoo said:
Well, I've become oblivious to liberal hysteria, so not really numb...

Maybe buy a gun or take a self-defense class if you really think you're going to be crimed by some MAGA enthusiast?

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I think Trumpers need some of their own medicine.

Scott Leader and Steve Leader, August 2015

On August 19, 2015, Scott Leader, 38, and his brother, Steve Leader, 30, attacked a homeless man in Boston who they wrongly believed to be an undocumented immigrant.

“Donald Trump was right,” they told police, after beating the man with a metal pipe and then urinating on him. “All these illegals need to be deported.”
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Curtis Allen, Gavin Wright, and Patrick Eugene Stein, October 2016

On October 14, 2016, the FBI arrested three men — Patrick Eugene Stein, Curtis Allen, and Gavin Wright — for plotting a series of bomb attacks against the Somali-American community of Garden City, Kansas. Calling themselves “the Crusaders,” they had planned to launch, on the day after the November 2016 presidential election, what The Guardian said “could have been the deadliest domestic terror attack since the Oklahoma bombing in 1995.”

Two of these three men were open supporters of Trump and were obsessed with anti-Muslim, anti-refugee conspiracy theories. For Stein, according to a profile in New York magazine, Trump was “the Man.” Allen wrote on Facebook: “I personally back Donald Trump.”
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Alexandre Bissonnette, January 2017

On the evening of January 29, 2017, Alexandre Bissonnette opened fire on worshippers at the Islamic Cultural Center in Quebec City, Canada, killing six of them and wounding 19.

Bisonnette, 27, was obsessed with Trump: He searched for the president on Twitter, Facebook, Google, and YouTube more than 800 times between January 1, 2017, and the day of the shooting. A former university classmate told the Toronto Globe and Mail that he “frequently argued” with Bissonette over the latter’s support for Trump.
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Michael Hari, Michael McWhorter, and Joe Morris, August 2017

In March 2018, three alleged members of a far-right militia — Michael Hari, Michael McWhorter, and Joe Morris — were charged in connection with the August 5, 2017, bombing of the Dar Al-Farooq Islamic Center in Bloomington, Minnesota. McWhorter is alleged to have told an FBI agent that the attack was an attempt “to scare” Muslims “out of the country.”

Hari is also alleged to be the ringleader of a group called “White Rabbit Militia – Illinois Patriot Freedom Fighters, Three Percent,” which has posted online messages about “Deep State activities” and “the attempt of the FBI to wiretap the Trump campaign and interfere in the election.”
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James Alex Fields Jr., August 2017

On August 12, 2017, a car crashed into a crowd of people protesting a neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing 32-year-old Heather Heyer. The alleged driver of the car, James Alex Fields Jr., has been charged with, among other crimes, hit-and-run and first-degree murder.

The registered Republican, according to a former high school teacher, also adored Trump. In an interview with the Associated Press, the former teacher “said Fields was a big Trump supporter because of what he believed to be Trump’s views on race.
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Brandon Griesemer, January 2018

On January 9 and 10, 2018, 19-year-old Brandon Griesemer allegedly made 22 calls to CNN. In four of those calls, the part-time grocery clerk from Novi, Michigan, threatened to kill employees at the network’s Atlanta headquarters, according to a federal affidavit.

“Fake news. I’m coming to gun you all down,” he told a CNN operator. Again, sound familiar? Trump has spent his entire presidency slamming CNN as “fake news,” singling out the network for criticism and abuse. According to the Washington Post, a high school classmate of Griesemer described him as a Trump supporter who “came in after the election and was very happy.” The classmate, reported the Post, “compared Griesemer’s reaction to that of a fan whose team had won a big game.”
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Nikolas Cruz, February 2018

On the afternoon of February 14, 2018, 19-year-old gunman Nikolas Cruz shot and killed 17 students and staff members at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida.

According to an investigation by CNN, Cruz was part of a private Instagram group in which he “repeatedly espoused racist, homophobic and anti-Semitic views” and “bragged about writing a letter to President Donald Trump — and receiving a response.”

Cruz also posted a photo of himself on Instagram wearing one of Trump’s signature red “Make America Great Again” hats, with an American flag-patterned bandana covering the bottom half of his face. Former classmates have confirmed that he also wore the red Trump hat to school.
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Crystal said:
Well, I had a person of color tell me a white woman to go back to Europe! So the person of color was the racist I take it! Right?
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Yeah maybe. Or it may have just been a poor attempt to give the other side "a taste of their own medicine". But we all know it's really not the same thing. Like I said, the difference comes from being in a position of vulnerability (social/demographic/economic, etc...), vs. being NOT in a position of vulnerability. If whites were a demographic minority and someone said that to them, yes, I would be far more alarmed.

Of course, back when recent immigrants like the Irish/Italians/Germans/Poles/Catholics/Jews/Amish/Quakers/Chinese, etc... WERE minorities and recent immigrants, that WAS said to them, in a very ominous way. Yes, that's alarming racism/bigotry.

It's like hearing a 300 lb dad angrily telling his little kid "if you don't stop yelling and crying I'll beat you!", vs the little kid defiantly saying it to that dad. One we take with great alarm. The other we kinda smile at and try to get the kid to be more respectful.
 
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HenryChinaski said:
Trump is emboldening psychopaths and giving the green light to this violence.
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It's only a matter of time before they (Trumpers) start attacking us N-word lovers....
 
Crystal said:
Someone went to the basement and started a thread about me being from stormfront. No one gives a **** about you leftists and your constant use of you frayed out ****ing race card. So let me ask you since the other guy won’t answer. If Trump told a White woman to go back to where she came from would that be racist?
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I guess we will never know, as trump will never do that.
 
Saboteur said:
I think Trumpers need some of their own medicine.
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Your message clearly calls for retaliatory assassination of Republicans. In my opinion messages such as your's should not be allowed.

The Pulse nightclub shooter (shot over 100 people) was a Hilary Clinton supporter. The Boston Marathon bomber was a Democrat supporter, the shooter at the Republican baseball practice was a Bernie Sanders, and almost countless more assassinations have been by Democrats.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Trump was wearing a WHITE shirt at the rally.

Coincidence?

I think not!

:screwy
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He was flashing that "OK" sign a lot, too:roll:
 
joko104 said:
The policy stance of the Democratic Party is that if you do not openly hate and incessantly curse the United States, capitalism and Americans you are a racist. Anyone who isn't a corporate fascist is a racist to the Democratic Party. It has become a meaningless word.
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And your source for this statement that you intend to offer as fact is where?

Let me see... Maybe Ann Coulter? Rush Limbaugh?

I could be wrong, maybe there's some other Goebbels wanna-be on the interwebs that that has polluted your mind?
 
ataraxia said:
Yeah maybe. Or it may have just been a poor attempt to give the other side "a taste of their own medicine". But we all know it's really not the same thing. Like I said, the difference comes from being in a position of vulnerability (social/demographic/economic, etc...), vs. being NOT in a position of vulnerability. If whites were a demographic minority and someone said that to them, yes, I would be far more alarmed.

Of course, back when recent immigrants like the Irish/Italians/Germans/Poles/Catholics/Jews/Amish/Quakers/Chinese, etc... WERE minorities and recent immigrants, that WAS said to them, in a very ominous way. Yes, that's alarming racism/bigotry.

It's like hearing a 300 lb dad angrily telling his little kid "if you don't stop yelling and crying I'll beat you!", vs the little kid defiantly saying it to that dad. One we take with great alarm. The other we kinda smile at and try to get the kid to be more respectful.
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Oh! I get it now. Because their skin was brown it was racist, but you can treat a white person any old way you choose! Yes! That’s the democrats for you. Got it. Thanks for being truthful.
 
nota bene said:
Since when is "America--love it or leave it" a KKK slogan? And just because a tiny minority of Americans have co-opted it, if indeed they have, doesn't mean that it's a racist slogan because KKKers are racists. People who used this expression in the '70's weren't referring to race at all. A Brief History of Loving or Leaving America | HuffPost
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They find some arcane reference or usage of a common phrase or symbol and exploit it to attack Trump et. al. as racists. Same thing they tried to do with the Betsy Ross flag.
My response to that b.s. can be seen flying on the front of my house.
 
joko104 said:
Your message clearly calls for retaliatory assassination of Republicans. In my opinion messages such as your's should not be allowed.

The Pulse nightclub shooter (shot over 100 people) was a Hilary Clinton supporter. The Boston Marathon bomber was a Democrat supporter, the shooter at the Republican baseball practice was a Bernie Sanders, and almost countless more assassinations have been by Democrats.
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Yeah 3 to this many....

Donald Trump Hate And Violence Map

Oh we're soooo unhinged :roll:
 
CRModeration said:
~ "At a rally in North Carolina, US President Donald Trump doubled down on his attacks against four Democratic congresswomen and appeared to invoke a slogan used by white supporters called for one of four female politicians - who was born overseas - to be “sent back. ~
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Surprised this isn't the subject of the thread.

I'm not American but do I see an American President riling a crowd into chanting "send her back" to an American citizen for exercising her 1st Amendment rights. Am I mistaken but wasn't part of his swearing in a commitment to upholding the values of the US Constitution or something like that?
 
CRModeration said:
The topic at hand is Trump's increased use of racial rhetoric and the increase in hate crimes that could follow.
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No, its Trumps use of rhetoric that is followed by a chorus from the mainstream media labeling the rhetoric racist, when it contains no element of race. Probably more likely to increase the chances of violence from the left in reaction to the perceived racism.
 
In the 80's and early 90's, Nazi Skin violence was rampant. I cant imagine how much worse it would have been if Trump had been president, there to give them a larger voice.
 
Crystal said:
Oh! I get it now. Because their skin was brown it was racist, but you can treat a white person any old way you choose! Yes! That’s the democrats for you. Got it. Thanks for being truthful.
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Yes, that's true. Because in our American society today, skin color is clearly a great vulnerability. Societies make this stuff up (about what puts you in a position of social advantage vs. social vulnerability. It's called "social constructs". In middle school, it may be the kids who can't afford the expensive brand name sneakers). Here, we have chosen to use skin color. So there is a particular sensitivity about that.

In India, they make a big deal about castes (and they are working to try to get rid of it there, just like we are working hard to get rid of racism here). If you are in the untouchable caste, it's a big problem for you. You are really behind the 8 ball. If you live in a fundamentalist Muslim country like Saudi ARabia and you are a Christian or a Jew, religion becomes the big thing.

So you are trying to pretend these issues of social advantage vs. vulnerability are not important, and it should all be the same. But I am sure you know it's not. It's just a matter of watching out for the underdogs, because they are the ones who can usually get hurt the most. If whites were a minority and underdogs, then of course there would be far greater alarm and sensitivity as to what is said to them and how they are treated.

But you know all this, I am sure. I think you are just pretending you don't know.
 
joko104 said:
Your message clearly calls for retaliatory assassination of Republicans. In my opinion messages such as your's should not be allowed.

The Pulse nightclub shooter (shot over 100 people) was a Hilary Clinton supporter. The Boston Marathon bomber was a Democrat supporter, the shooter at the Republican baseball practice was a Bernie Sanders, and almost countless more assassinations have been by Democrats.
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The ICE facility domestic terrorist was parroting AOC's rhetoric and Ayanna Pressley's "bring the fire" incitement.
The Pittsburgh Tree of Life Synagogue shooter HATED Trump.

White supremacists and neo-Nazis are throwing their support behind Ilhan Omar. She's the best thing they've got going in Congress.
 
ataraxia said:
Yes, that's true. Because in our American society today, skin color is clearly a great vulnerability. Societies make this stuff up (about what puts you in a position of social advantage vs. social vulnerability. It's called "social constructs"). Here, we have chosen to use skin color. So there is a particular sensitivity about that.

If we were in India, they make a big deal about castes. If you are in the untouchable caste, it's a big problem for you. You are really behind the 8 ball. If you live in a fundamentalist Muslim country like Saudi ARabia and you are a Christian or a Jew, religion becomes the big thing.

So you are trying to pretend these issues of social advantage vs. vulnerability are not important, and it should all be the same. But I am sure you know it's not. It's just a matter of watching out for the underdogs, because they are the ones who can usually get hurt the most. If whites were a minority and underdogs, then of course there would be far greater alarm and sensitivity as to what is said to them and how they are treated.

But you know all this, I am sure. I think you are just pretending you don't know.
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So much for MLK jr.
 
CRModeration said:
Trump invokes KKK slogan 'love it or leave it' at North Carolina rally | SBS News

Trump invokes slogan used regularly by local SC KKK division in campaign rally

"At a rally in North Carolina, US President Donald Trump doubled down on his attacks against four Democratic congresswomen and appeared to invoke a slogan used by white nationalists telling them to 'love it or leave it'."

“If they don’t love it, tell them to leave it" - that was US President Donald Trump’s message about four Democratic congresswomen at a rally in North Carolina, where supporters called for one of four female politicians - who was born overseas - to be “sent back”.

“Let ’em leave,” Mr Trump said of the four women. “They’re always telling us how to run it, how to do this, how to do that. You know what? If they don’t love it, tell ’em to leave it.”

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I find it hard to believe that his handlers weren't aware of this reference in this specific area of the country—especially in regards to the topic at hand.

The question is, what level of racial rhetoric does Trump have to use before his supporters find it abhorrent enough to call him out on it? My guess is there is no bottom, no mark to hit on that.
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'Love it or leave it' as an indication of KKK influence is lie number 10,001 against the Trump administration?
 
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Infinite Chaos said:
Surprised this isn't the subject of the thread.

I'm not American but do I see an American President riling a crowd into chanting "send her back" to an American citizen for exercising her 1st Amendment rights. Am I mistaken but wasn't part of his swearing in a commitment to upholding the values of the US Constitution or something like that?
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That would include upholding our 1st amendment.
When we have members in Congress who used rhetoric to incite violence just days ago, when an Antifa member committed an act of domestic terrorism on an ICE facility, espousing a manifesto filled with AOC's incendiary bombast and hyperbole and using methods espoused by Ayanna Pressley to "bring the fire".
The two Democrats refuse to even acknowledge questions regarding the attack that could have caused death to many innocents.
 
ataraxia said:
Yes, that's true. Because in our American society today, skin color is clearly a great vulnerability. Societies make this stuff up (about what puts you in a position of social advantage vs. social vulnerability. It's called "social constructs". In middle school, it may be the kids who can't afford the expensive brand name sneakers). Here, we have chosen to use skin color. So there is a particular sensitivity about that.

In India, they make a big deal about castes (and they are working to try to get rid of it there, just like we are working hard to get rid of racism here). If you are in the untouchable caste, it's a big problem for you. You are really behind the 8 ball. If you live in a fundamentalist Muslim country like Saudi ARabia and you are a Christian or a Jew, religion becomes the big thing.

So you are trying to pretend these issues of social advantage vs. vulnerability are not important, and it should all be the same. But I am sure you know it's not. It's just a matter of watching out for the underdogs, because they are the ones who can usually get hurt the most. If whites were a minority and underdogs, then of course there would be far greater alarm and sensitivity as to what is said to them and how they are treated.

But you know all this, I am sure. I think you are just pretending you don't know.
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What I know is the democrats tell us that blacks are the minority and disadvantaged while at the same time advocate for open borders, free healthcare for millions of illegals, they refuse to give blacks school choice but they advocate abortion. Now you tell me why democrats want the blacks to stay disadvantaged!
 
CRModeration said:
Your only goal here it derail the discussion, it's no secret.

The topic at hand is Trump's increased use of racial rhetoric, and if you were to visit places like Breitbart and just read the comments, you'd see that many there are now re-energized about white nationalism and disparaging these 4 and any others who might fall in their demographic.

That is the topic, this is yet another case in a long list of troubling rhetoric that is no longer "just campaign talk."
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You take a phrase that has been harmlessly used millions of times by every day Americans, find where it was once used by the KKK decades ago in some obscure reference and proceed to vomit some nonsense that it must mean Trump is used the phrase for the explicit intention to use coded KKK language to put some mystical spell on his supporters or some other babble.


And we're not expected to make fun of the Left for such complete horse **** not even an 11 year old cheerleader would buy?
 
ecofarm said:
If that's true then a Russian is in the White House.
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If that's true, he preceded a Muslim hood rat born in Kenya.




Note: hyperbole to show how equally ridiculous the above was.
 
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