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Trump invokes KKK slogan 'love it or leave it' at North Carolina rally

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Trump invokes KKK slogan 'love it or leave it' at North Carolina rally | SBS News

Trump invokes slogan used regularly by local SC KKK division in campaign rally

"At a rally in North Carolina, US President Donald Trump doubled down on his attacks against four Democratic congresswomen and appeared to invoke a slogan used by white nationalists telling them to 'love it or leave it'."

“If they don’t love it, tell them to leave it" - that was US President Donald Trump’s message about four Democratic congresswomen at a rally in North Carolina, where supporters called for one of four female politicians - who was born overseas - to be “sent back”.

“Let ’em leave,” Mr Trump said of the four women. “They’re always telling us how to run it, how to do this, how to do that. You know what? If they don’t love it, tell ’em to leave it.”

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I find it hard to believe that his handlers weren't aware of this reference in this specific area of the country—especially in regards to the topic at hand.

The question is, what level of racial rhetoric does Trump have to use before his supporters find it abhorrent enough to call him out on it? My guess is there is no bottom, no mark to hit on that.
 
CRModeration said:
Trump invokes KKK slogan 'love it or leave it' at North Carolina rally | SBS News

Trump invokes slogan used regularly by local SC KKK division in campaign rally

"At a rally in North Carolina, US President Donald Trump doubled down on his attacks against four Democratic congresswomen and appeared to invoke a slogan used by white nationalists telling them to 'love it or leave it'."

“If they don’t love it, tell them to leave it" - that was US President Donald Trump’s message about four Democratic congresswomen at a rally in North Carolina, where supporters called for one of four female politicians - who was born overseas - to be “sent back”.

“Let ’em leave,” Mr Trump said of the four women. “They’re always telling us how to run it, how to do this, how to do that. You know what? If they don’t love it, tell ’em to leave it.”

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

I find it hard to believe that his handlers weren't aware of this reference in this specific area of the country—especially in regards to the topic at hand.

The question is, what level of racial rhetoric does Trump have to use before his supporters find it abhorrent enough to call him out on it? My guess is there is no bottom, no mark to hit on that.
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They more than likely suggested it because of it's origins. Trump has gone "balls out, **** it, the GOP is no longer going to tread lightly hiding their true beliefs" We're racists and make no apologies for it"
 
CRModeration said:
Trump invokes KKK slogan 'love it or leave it' at North Carolina rally | SBS News

Trump invokes slogan used regularly by local SC KKK division in campaign rally

"At a rally in North Carolina, US President Donald Trump doubled down on his attacks against four Democratic congresswomen and appeared to invoke a slogan used by white nationalists telling them to 'love it or leave it'."

“If they don’t love it, tell them to leave it" - that was US President Donald Trump’s message about four Democratic congresswomen at a rally in North Carolina, where supporters called for one of four female politicians - who was born overseas - to be “sent back”.

“Let ’em leave,” Mr Trump said of the four women. “They’re always telling us how to run it, how to do this, how to do that. You know what? If they don’t love it, tell ’em to leave it.”

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

I find it hard to believe that his handlers weren't aware of this reference in this specific area of the country—especially in regards to the topic at hand.

The question is, what level of racial rhetoric does Trump have to use before his supporters find it abhorrent enough to call him out on it? My guess is there is no bottom, no mark to hit on that.
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Why should they leave it? I thought he wanted them to fix it.

lol
 
CRModeration said:
Trump invokes KKK slogan 'love it or leave it' at North Carolina rally | SBS News

Trump invokes slogan used regularly by local SC KKK division in campaign rally

"At a rally in North Carolina, US President Donald Trump doubled down on his attacks against four Democratic congresswomen and appeared to invoke a slogan used by white nationalists telling them to 'love it or leave it'."

“If they don’t love it, tell them to leave it" - that was US President Donald Trump’s message about four Democratic congresswomen at a rally in North Carolina, where supporters called for one of four female politicians - who was born overseas - to be “sent back”.

“Let ’em leave,” Mr Trump said of the four women. “They’re always telling us how to run it, how to do this, how to do that. You know what? If they don’t love it, tell ’em to leave it.”

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

I find it hard to believe that his handlers weren't aware of this reference in this specific area of the country—especially in regards to the topic at hand.

The question is, what level of racial rhetoric does Trump have to use before his supporters find it abhorrent enough to call him out on it? My guess is there is no bottom, no mark to hit on that.
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If only Trump had followed his own advice and left when he was spending years trashing Obama.

Then the country wouldn't be suffering the humiliation of having this anti-American stain in office.
 
Trump was wearing a WHITE shirt at the rally.

Coincidence?

I think not!

:screwy
 
Ikari said:
Why should they leave it? I thought he wanted them to fix it.

lol
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Apparently in order to prove that they're worthy of fixing it these four women have to go to the countries where their ancestors were citizens, and fix those countries.

Other people don't have to go anywhere else to prove their competence. Trump doesn't have to prove his competence, not even in America. But these four women have to go fix the countries of their ancestors before they're entitled to attempt to do the jobs their constituents voted for them to do.
 
There's going to be serious violence, maybe even people being killed by these deplorables.

Not Trump's supporters, nor the cowards in the GOP will care, but it's going to happen.. His ramping up the rhetoric and racism is daily now. He's going to trigger someone out there.. The daily rhetoric? These hate filled rallies? Nothing but violence will come from this.
 
CRModeration said:
Trump invokes KKK slogan 'love it or leave it' at North Carolina rally | SBS News

Trump invokes slogan used regularly by local SC KKK division in campaign rally

"At a rally in North Carolina, US President Donald Trump doubled down on his attacks against four Democratic congresswomen and appeared to invoke a slogan used by white nationalists telling them to 'love it or leave it'."

“If they don’t love it, tell them to leave it" - that was US President Donald Trump’s message about four Democratic congresswomen at a rally in North Carolina, where supporters called for one of four female politicians - who was born overseas - to be “sent back”.

“Let ’em leave,” Mr Trump said of the four women. “They’re always telling us how to run it, how to do this, how to do that. You know what? If they don’t love it, tell ’em to leave it.”

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

I find it hard to believe that his handlers weren't aware of this reference in this specific area of the country—especially in regards to the topic at hand.

The question is, what level of racial rhetoric does Trump have to use before his supporters find it abhorrent enough to call him out on it? My guess is there is no bottom, no mark to hit on that.
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It was used during the Vietnam War. Was it racist then too? And where is the evidence that this slogan was invented by the KKK?
 
If the Democrats keep chasing the laser light Trump keeps moving around on the floor, he's going to create enough chaos where they will waste time continually reacting to his nonsense. This is the equivalent of getting into a shouting match with a child; you end up reduced to throwing another tantrum and what caused the tantrum doesn't get addressed. From a media perspective he's winning this unfortunately; that is of course his strength so continuing to feed it adds to the chaos. It's the old "squeakiest wheel gets the grease" strategy.

I'm not saying his idiocy shouldn't be addressed, but I think a few concise statements from party leadership chastising his out of line comments should do it. By continually harping about Trump's racism is a distraction opponents can't get mired in for too long lest they look like loons chasing their own shadows, and Trump ends up looking like the saner choice.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
There's going to be serious violence, maybe even people being killed by these deplorables.

Not Trump's supporters, nor the cowards in the GOP will care, but it's going to happen.. His ramping up the rhetoric and racism is daily now. He's going to trigger someone out there.. The daily rhetoric? These hate filled rallies? Nothing but violence will come from this.
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He's calling for another Tim McVeigh.
 
ElChupacabra said:
If the Democrats keep chasing the laser light Trump keeps moving around on the floor, he's going to create enough chaos where they will waste time continually reacting to his nonsense. This is the equivalent of getting into a shouting match with a child; you end up reduced to throwing another tantrum and what caused the tantrum doesn't get addressed. From a media perspective he's winning this unfortunately; that is of course his strength so continuing to feed it adds to the chaos. It's the old "squeakiest wheel gets the grease" strategy.

I'm not saying his idiocy shouldn't be addressed, but I think a few concise statements from party leadership chastising his out of line comments should do it. By continually harping about Trump's racism is a distraction opponents can't get mired in for too long lest they look like loons chasing their own shadows, and Trump ends up looking like the saner choice.
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It's pandering to racists. Nothing more.
 
Amelia said:
Apparently in order to prove that they're worthy of fixing it these four women have to go to the countries where their ancestors were citizens, and fix those countries.

Other people don't have to go anywhere else to prove their competence. Trump doesn't have to prove his competence, not even in America. But these four women have to go fix the countries of their ancestors before they're entitled to attempt to do the jobs their constituents voted for them to do.
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Well it's a good thing that Trump doesn't have to prove his competence, otherwise he'd be in big trouble.
 
Fletch said:
It was used during the Vietnam War. Was it racist then too? And where is the evidence that this slogan was invented by the KKK?
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Invented and used regularly are two different things. Context matters.

The story itself clearly shows the paraphernalia from the KKK touting the same slogan.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Trump was wearing a WHITE shirt at the rally.

Coincidence?

I think not!

:screwy
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The slogan was used by the local KKK on a regular basis, yes?

Deflection doesn't change this fact; unless you believe Trump truly is that stupid not to research this before jumping on the slogan, there really is no excuse for this and everyone knows it.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
There's going to be serious violence, maybe even people being killed by these deplorables.

Not Trump's supporters, nor the cowards in the GOP will care, but it's going to happen.. His ramping up the rhetoric and racism is daily now. He's going to trigger someone out there.. The daily rhetoric? These hate filled rallies? Nothing but violence will come from this.
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Me, I fantasize about playing strip poker with Angelina Jolie, but whatever turns a person on I guess...
 
3leftsdoo said:
Trump was wearing a WHITE shirt at the rally.

Coincidence?

I think not!

:screwy
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Indeed!

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Unbelievable that he would utter such a despicable racist phrase second only to the even more nefarious, "Love It or List It" White Supremacist coded language.


Hold impeachment hearings NOW!!!!
 
ecofarm said:
It's pandering to racists. Nothing more.
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He's catering to his base for sure, but he's also throwing a cherry bomb in the toilet for the media. He knows they're going to eat the conflict up and run with it. I've never underestimated his media savvy because he understands that conflict drives ratings.
 
ElChupacabra said:
He's catering to his base for sure, but he's also throwing a cherry bomb in the toilet for the media. He knows they're going to eat the conflict up and run with it. I've never underestimated his media savvy because he understands that conflict drives ratings.
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He's openly pandering to racists. Nothing more.
 
CRModeration said:
The slogan was used by the local KKK on a regular basis, yes?

Deflection doesn't change this fact; unless you believe Trump truly is that stupid not to research this before jumping on the slogan, there really is no excuse for this and everyone knows it.
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It was a conservative slogan of the 60s - I've never heard it tied to the KKK.

Your premise is ridiculous to put it kindly, but Trump is LITERALLY Hitler, so I'll concede that.

:)
 
3leftsdoo said:
It was a conservative slogan of the 60s - I've never heard it tied to the KKK.

Your premise is ridiculous to put it kindly, but Trump is LITERALLY Hitler, so I'll concede that.

:)
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Yes, it was so widely unknown that the KKK placed a giant billboard with the slogan on it to make sure that no one would see it.

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CRModeration said:
Trump invokes KKK slogan 'love it or leave it' at North Carolina rally | SBS News

Trump invokes slogan used regularly by local SC KKK division in campaign rally

"At a rally in North Carolina, US President Donald Trump doubled down on his attacks against four Democratic congresswomen and appeared to invoke a slogan used by white nationalists telling them to 'love it or leave it'."

“If they don’t love it, tell them to leave it" - that was US President Donald Trump’s message about four Democratic congresswomen at a rally in North Carolina, where supporters called for one of four female politicians - who was born overseas - to be “sent back”.

“Let ’em leave,” Mr Trump said of the four women. “They’re always telling us how to run it, how to do this, how to do that. You know what? If they don’t love it, tell ’em to leave it.”

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

I find it hard to believe that his handlers weren't aware of this reference in this specific area of the country—especially in regards to the topic at hand.

The question is, what level of racial rhetoric does Trump have to use before his supporters find it abhorrent enough to call him out on it? My guess is there is no bottom, no mark to hit on that.
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Obviously, today the racists are picking-up on this slogan and adopting it as theirs.

But as Fletch & 3leftsdoo accurately posted above, this slogan was used extensively by the sixties pro-war movement, and there didn't seem to be any racial implications to it back then.
 
3leftsdoo said:
It was a conservative slogan of the 60s - I've never heard it tied to the KKK.

Your premise is ridiculous to put it kindly, but Trump is LITERALLY Hitler, so I'll concede that.

:)
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See post #17
 
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