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Hockey Coach Goes Viral: Either Stand For the National Anthem Or Get the Hell Out

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Overcompensating fascist.
 
Patriotism: forcing people to stand for the National Anthem


So meaningful.
 
ecofarm said:
Overcompensating fascist.
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He’s also a cop so now you can really hate him. He probably killed four or five black people just on his way to the hockey practice.
 
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Amelia said:
Patriotism: forcing people to stand for the National Anthem


So meaningful.
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He’s just letting his players know what’s expected of them during matches when “they’re on the clock” like coaches have since the beginning of time.
 
Its not about patriotism. Its about respect.



Look...I dont give a **** if they kneel, spit...whatever. It reflects on their own pathetic character and lack of capacity to intelligently express their actual position. In short...it says far more about them than what they are trying to protest.
 
lurchadams said:
LOL - Hockey. The whitest sport there is. What an unnecessary rant :)

You're going great, my friend. A white pride thread last night and an anti-black thread tonight. Post an anti-Jewish thread tomorrow and I hear you'll win a free tiki torch! :)
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Oh boo hoo. Need a flag to dry your tears and blow your nose? I don’t consider the flag or the anthem having anything to do with being “anti black”.
 
X Factor said:
He’s also a cop so now you can really hate him. He probably killed four or five black people just on his way to the hockey practice.
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Despicable slander. You should be ashamed.


ecofarm said:
You're doing the same thing some Americans do regarding other countries. And it's really a display of a lack of scientific discipline. We do not presume that one instance captured on film or as a sample automatically represents the status quo or state of the system at all times. Basically, you're using anecdotal evidence to draw a conclusion.

Things you are failing to consider:

1. The videos are of the most egregious violations of the public trust and professionalism. They are not the norm, they are the exception.

2. Cops in other countries are a million times less likely to be shot in a common encounter or arrest.


YouTube can't convey to you what it's like to live in America with guns as common as they are. YouTube can't even give me, an American, a true sense of what it's like to be a cop and deal with that stress. I could not be a cop. I would not be able to deal with the stress of pulling someone over for a ticket requiring military approach procedure because one's life might be about to end. It's unpaid and thankless. Cops are like teachers.

Do we have more aggressive rules of engagement? Yes. Do cops cross the line? Yes.

But that doesn't mean that we have failed to find a just solution in our standards. Your vitriol is, as you would not deny, from a place of ignorance.

Do many Americans believe the rules of engagement are too loose and cops are too aggressive in general? Yes.

Do we have a problem with police brutality? Yes.

Are these things being addressed in our police departments and their corresponding communities? Yes.


Thus, your characterization of us as in some way uncivilized is no better than when Americans do it to others. The irony is, of course, that your error came at the end of a well said condemnation of exactly that. It's like you tried to provide an example, it was even emotionally charged.

That you then support your errant and demonizing perspective with YouTube is laughably typical of not only Americans. Your attempt to support your mischaracterization with YouTube was exhibit B in my claim that you're coming from ignorance. I wasn't asking, I was presenting evidence of my claim.
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PirateMk1 said:
Thats sounds like the coaches I had. Hard nose no nonsense guys and gals.
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Next thing you know, he’ll tell them they’re not allowed to spit on the cops working security at the games, the fascist pig.
 
VanceMack said:
Its not about patriotism. Its about respect.



Look...I dont give a **** if they kneel, spit...whatever. It reflects on their own pathetic character and lack of capacity to intelligently express their actual position. In short...it says far more about them than what they are trying to protest.
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Imagine judging someone's character to whether or not they stand for some fabric and a song.
 
X Factor said:
tl:dr
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That's me defending cops. I could produce other posts as well, but I think my point has been made. You engaged in despicable slander.
 
X Factor said:
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There are two factors here which are conflicting.

The first is just that you stand for the anthem the same as you should shake hands with your opponent and treat everyone with respect.

The second is the freedom of speech and all that.

If the game is an INTERNATIONAL GAME, then sure, respect the anthems because it's one nation v. another.

But in non-international games, like the NFL, there shouldn't be the national anthem in the first place. It literally has no place there.
 
X Factor said:
Next thing you know, he’ll tell them they’re not allowed to spit on the cops working security at the games, the fascist pig.
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Are you suggesting that telling someone not to quietly kneel is on par with telling someone not to spit on another person?
 
X Factor said:
That’s not just what it is to many.
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And that is exactly my point. Do you consider yours, or Vancemack's feelings on the National symbols (in this case the flag and the anthem) more valid than my own apathy to the flag and the anthem? Or to someone who sees those before mentioned symbols with contempt?
 
CMPancake said:
Imagine judging someone's character to whether or not they stand for some fabric and a song.
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Hell, I judged your character by demeaning it to "some fabric and a song". Its not a stretch then to judge some asshole that literally cites his or her own prejudice and bigotry as his or her motivation for protesting.
 
ecofarm said:
That's me defending cops. I could produce other posts as well, but I think my point has been made. You engaged in despicable slander.
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You haven’t ever argued that there are a bunch of racist cops out there killing black people or argued against “blue lives matter” or called cops snowflakes for not liking Colin K?
 
X Factor said:
Oh boo hoo. Need a flag to dry your tears and blow your nose? I don’t consider the flag or the anthem having anything to do with being “anti black”.
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You might fool some, but when you target "people who kneel" during the anthem at sporting events we all know who you're talking about. It's the Southern Strategy only you're a few decades behind the times, my dishonest friend.

So, same time tomorrow when you post an anti-Jewish thread?
 
VanceMack said:
Hell, I judged your character by demeaning it to "some fabric and a song".
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Then what is my character then based solely on my feeling on those two symbols? For all you know, I could be a god-fearin', gun lovin', red blooded American. Feelings on symbols has absolutely no bearing on one's character.


VanceMack said:
Its not a stretch then to judge some asshole that literally cites his or her own prejudice and bigotry as his or her motivation for protesting.
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Nah, it's a reach, you're really stretching for this one.
 
CMPancake said:
Then what is my character then based solely on my feeling on those two symbols? For all you know, I could be a god-fearin', gun lovin', red blooded American. Feelings on symbols has absolutely no bearing on one's character.




Nah, it's a reach, you're really stretching for this one.
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Its not a stretch at all. It is LITERALLY factual.

How would you respond to the argument that "we have to deal with 'the blacks' because there is a problem with 'the blacks' committing violent crimes"?
 
CMPancake said:
And that is exactly my point. Do you consider yours, or Vancemack's feelings on the National symbols (in this case the flag and the anthem) more valid than my own apathy to the flag and the anthem? Or to someone who sees those before mentioned symbols with contempt?
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You’re not just “apathetic” if it bothers you that a coach tells his players the conduct expected of them includes not pissing on the flag, you’re hostile to it. What makes your hostility more valid (other than the virtue signaling)?
 
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