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Inside a Texas Building Where the Government Is Holding Immigrant Children

The minute our government took these children into custody, those kids became the responsibility of that very government.

You never compare things to where they came from, but based on the most fortunate Americans. They were getting what they never got in their homeland. They're not getting molested by the bastards that brought them here, they get food (probably way better than in their homeland), and medical (which they probably didn't get at all before). Liberals will hunt high and low to find the worst of these facilities, and try to paint them all the same.
 
You never compare things to where they came from, but based on the most fortunate Americans. They were getting what they never got in their homeland. They're not getting molested by the bastards that brought them here, they get food (probably way better than in their homeland), and medical (which they probably didn't get at all before). Liberals will hunt high and low to find the worst of these facilities, and try to paint them all the same.

Wait. You aren't saying they are a bunch of phoney virtue signalers, wheo are just using these kids as pawns to get rid of Trump are you?
 
And I guarantee if there was anything in a bill to address our asylum laws which are creating this problem, every Republican would support it.

In the meantime can't we just give some poor people some f***ing soap? Or should their dignity be held hostage until new asylum laws are drafted?
 
Inside a Texas Building Where the Government Is Holding Immigrant Children | The New Yorker

Inside a Texas Building Where the Government Is Holding Immigrant Children


Hundreds of immigrant children who have been separated from their parents or family members are being held in dirty, neglectful, and dangerous conditions at Border Patrol facilities in Texas. This week, a team of lawyers interviewed more than fifty children at one of those facilities, in Clint, Texas, in order to monitor government compliance with the Flores settlement, which mandates that children must be held in safe and sanitary conditions and moved out of Border Patrol custody without unnecessary delays. The conditions the lawyers found were shocking: flu and lice outbreaks were going untreated, and children were filthy, sleeping on cold floors, and taking care of each other because of the lack of attention from guards. Some of them had been in the facility for weeks

[snip]We had approximately ten lawyers, doctors, and interpreters in El Paso this past week. We did not plan to go to the Clint Facility, because it's not a facility that historically receives children. It wasn't even on our radar. It was at a facility that historically only had a maximum occupancy of a hundred and four, and it was an adult facility. So we were not expecting to go there, and then we saw the report, last week, that it appeared that children were being sent to Clint, so we decided to put four teams over there. The teams are one to two attorneys, or an attorney and an interpreter. The idea is that we would be interviewing one child at a time or one sibling group at a time.

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The BP is trying to make do with limited resources. 600K+ people from third world nations in half a year and only so many supplies to go around.

And the Democrats don't care.
 
Like I said, this could have been done BEFORE now. It could have been done a year ago when Democrats were swearing that there was no crisis and that Trump was making everything up. Face it, Trump saw the problem coming and proposed solutions which Democrats then rejected for purely political reasons. Now those same Democrats want to blame Trump for causing the problem. If you want to raise hell then call your Democrat congressperson and light them up for not doing anything when they had the chance.

A year ago the Republicans had total control of both the House and the Senate. So in your first sentence, you are dead wrong. Are you really going to try to tell me and anyone else that it was democrats that blocked any type of immigration reform? That's a laugh. The only solution to immigration was his wall, that was his plan, not immigration reform, not engineering talks with Central America and Mexico to formulate a long-term plan, no impetus on the republican Senate and House to actually DO ANYTHING but block and graveyard every democratic bill that came to the Senate.

No sir, this is not the fault of democrats, not this one. This bag is being held totally in the arms of the republicans in Congress. And yes, I did raise hell with my Congressman and Senator, as any American with a conscience would do.
 
and it would appear from your posts that you believe our government is correct in separating children from their families and placing them in concentration camps while denying them basic care and basic care items

Limited resources and limited funds. You can thank Democrats in Congress for that.
 
See more faux outrage and common sense. Hey just appropriate money. Thatll fix it. Unlike the billions spent, the laws, the faux outrage and common sense thats been done the last 74 times. Just write your congressman, that will solve it!

I did much more than write my Congressman and Senator. I called Washington, I emailed them and I've been tweeting the link to every Senator of both parties since early this morning.
 
I guarantee you that if a clean funding bill for humanitarian aid at the border was proposed Democrats would support it.

Sure...because it benefits possible future Democrat voters. To hell with the BP agents who have to risk their butts every day or the Americans who get killed every year by illegals.
 
The BP is trying to make do with limited resources. 600K+ people from third world nations in half a year and only so many supplies to go around.

And the Democrats don't care.

Republicans aren't outraged over this story today, it's Democrats, Independents, Libertarians -- not a single Republican voice yet.
 
It's hostage taking on a particularly cruel level. How can any decent human being use the abuse of children as a negotiating tactic?

An illegal who was previously deported was recently arrested for raping a woman. You want abuse? There it is.

**** your concerns. Americans are bleeding at the hands of illegals every ****ing year and you don't care about THEM.
 
Republicans aren't outraged over this story today, it's Democrats, Independents, Libertarians -- not a single Republican voice yet.

Republicans are for law and order. Democrats only care about these future voters.
 
A year ago the Republicans had total control of both the House and the Senate. So in your first sentence, you are dead wrong. Are you really going to try to tell me and anyone else that it was democrats that blocked any type of immigration reform? That's a laugh. The only solution to immigration was his wall, that was his plan, not immigration reform, not engineering talks with Central America and Mexico to formulate a long-term plan, no impetus on the republican Senate and House to actually DO ANYTHING but block and graveyard every democratic bill that came to the Senate.

No sir, this is not the fault of democrats, not this one. This bag is being held totally in the arms of the republicans in Congress. And yes, I did raise hell with my Congressman and Senator, as any American with a conscience would do.

That's simply untrue. Trump did demand funding for the wall but he also made myriad concessions to the Democrats in an effort to both stem the increasing illegal immigration crisis and address issues with existing illegal immigration problems. Even though he offered the Democrats GREATER concessions than they asked for the still refused to support any of his plans.

Prior to 2018 he was advised by, among others, Paul Ryan that tax reform should be the first priority. To that end, Trump backed off immigration in 2016 and 2017. However, in backing off immigration Trump DID NOT create a crisis. He merely extended the policies of the prior administration...which created the crisis.
 
Trump supporters don't care. They see this as a lesson being taught to people that they view as subhuman.

Leftists don't care. This is collateral damage. A necessary byproduct to further the Left wing agenda.

Look at all the bad press. Maybe you'll get lucky and the mortality rate will increase significantly.
 
I did much more than write my Congressman and Senator. I called Washington, I emailed them and I've been tweeting the link to every Senator of both parties since early this morning.

And as usual that will do all of nothing. Try not voting in the same people every two years (by you i mean most of america)
 
I'd argue invading Mexico would be worse than the current situation. What about the climate refugees we will see in the coming decades? Do we keep invading further south or what? The only way to handle this humanely is to expand and fund our system. I don't support child abuse or murder. Those aren't options for me. Long term we could change how we conduct foreign policy with our neighbors to the south. I'm sure the amount of coups we've supported over the years haven't exactly aided in stability in these countries.

We only need to invade Mexico far enough to establish a workable border. I wasnt saying invade the whole country. Expanding and funding does not and will not work. Govt can not take care of humanity. I agree though, stop meddling with their countries. Let them figure it out like we did.
 
Whoops!!
I think someone is lying.

Cause once you get breast milk on your shirt, that **** is undetectable in like four minutes.
It's not like regular milk which can stick around on clothing until you wash it off.

So, obvs the report is from a liar.
 
Limited resources and limited funds. You can thank Democrats in Congress for that.

mike pence yesterday told the nation that the government - of course - had the ability to provide those basic items to the detainees

which then tells us it is the republican administration which chooses to deny them those meager items
 
We only need to invade Mexico far enough to establish a workable border. I wasnt saying invade the whole country. Expanding and funding does not and will not work. Govt can not take care of humanity. I agree though, stop meddling with their countries. Let them figure it out like we did.

so the chicken hawks can read it again
 
That's simply untrue. Trump did demand funding for the wall but he also made myriad concessions to the Democrats in an effort to both stem the increasing illegal immigration crisis and address issues with existing illegal immigration problems. Even though he offered the Democrats GREATER concessions than they asked for the still refused to support any of his plans.

Prior to 2018 he was advised by, among others, Paul Ryan that tax reform should be the first priority. To that end, Trump backed off immigration in 2016 and 2017. However, in backing off immigration Trump DID NOT create a crisis. He merely extended the policies of the prior administration...which created the crisis.

Yeah? What concessions did he make, name one? Trump had the full $25 billion dollars offered to him, his full asking price to build your wall, but he said 'no way' because the payment of his full asking price came with ONE condition, that the DReamers be given a pathway to citizenship. THAT'S ALL!
 
Yeah? What concessions did he make, name one? Trump had the full $25 billion dollars offered to him, his full asking price to build your wall, but he said 'no way' because the payment of his full asking price came with ONE condition, that the DReamers be given a pathway to citizenship. THAT'S ALL!

Dreamers were not the sticking point. He actually offered MORE clearances for Dreamers than were requested. The sticking point was that the Democrats wouldn't end the visa lottery and limit sponsored visas.
 
Dreamers were not the sticking point. He actually offered MORE clearances for Dreamers than were requested. The sticking point was that the Democrats wouldn't end the visa lottery and limit sponsored visas.

Congress news: Senate blocks DACA immigration plans

Here are the four proposals that failed. The Senate was voting to shorten debate on the measures and effectively move ahead with them, and needed 60 votes to advance.

A narrow plan put forth by Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Chris Coons, D-Del., got 52 votes for as opposed to 47 votes against. McCain was not present for the votes as he fights brain cancer. The plan included protections for immigrants and border security funding, but not an overhaul of the immigration system.

The Senate then voted not to advance a proposal from Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., to pull funding from so-called sanctuary cities. It got 54 votes of support, while 45 senators opposed it.

The chamber rejected a bipartisan plan originally sponsored by Sens. Mike Rounds, R-S.D., and Angus King, I-Maine. Fifty-four senators backed it, while 45 voted against it. It would have offered a pathway to citizenship for immigrants protected by the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals and those who were eligible but did not apply. It would limit family-based visas, fund Trump’s proposed border wall or other border security and instruct Immigration and Customs Enforcement to turn its focus away from immigrants without criminal records.

Finally, the chamber shot down Trump’s favored plan, proposed by Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa. Only 39 lawmakers voted for it, while 60 voted against it. The Grassley bill aimed to capture Trump’s four immigration demands: shielding up to 1.8 million young immigrants and offering a path to citizenship, funding border security, limiting extended family migration and ending the diversity visa “lottery.” Democrats opposed its limits on legal immigration.

Trump has rejected multiple bipartisan proposals put before him. It has prompted bipartisan senators to express frustration about the difficulty of negotiating with the White House on immigration.
 
Congress news: Senate blocks DACA immigration plans

Here are the four proposals that failed. The Senate was voting to shorten debate on the measures and effectively move ahead with them, and needed 60 votes to advance.

A narrow plan put forth by Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Chris Coons, D-Del., got 52 votes for as opposed to 47 votes against. McCain was not present for the votes as he fights brain cancer. The plan included protections for immigrants and border security funding, but not an overhaul of the immigration system.

The Senate then voted not to advance a proposal from Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., to pull funding from so-called sanctuary cities. It got 54 votes of support, while 45 senators opposed it.

The chamber rejected a bipartisan plan originally sponsored by Sens. Mike Rounds, R-S.D., and Angus King, I-Maine. Fifty-four senators backed it, while 45 voted against it. It would have offered a pathway to citizenship for immigrants protected by the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals and those who were eligible but did not apply. It would limit family-based visas, fund Trump’s proposed border wall or other border security and instruct Immigration and Customs Enforcement to turn its focus away from immigrants without criminal records.

Finally, the chamber shot down Trump’s favored plan, proposed by Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa. Only 39 lawmakers voted for it, while 60 voted against it. The Grassley bill aimed to capture Trump’s four immigration demands: shielding up to 1.8 million young immigrants and offering a path to citizenship, funding border security, limiting extended family migration and ending the diversity visa “lottery.” Democrats opposed its limits on legal immigration.

Trump has rejected multiple bipartisan proposals put before him. It has prompted bipartisan senators to express frustration about the difficulty of negotiating with the White House on immigration.

That part you put in bold was EXACTLY what I said. Trump DID offer more DACA clearances than the Democrats asked for but Democrats were completely unwilling to put in place protections to insure that the issues which created a need for DACA were corrected.
 
Inside a Texas Building Where the Government Is Holding Immigrant Children | The New Yorker

Inside a Texas Building Where the Government Is Holding Immigrant Children


Hundreds of immigrant children who have been separated from their parents or family members are being held in dirty, neglectful, and dangerous conditions at Border Patrol facilities in Texas. This week, a team of lawyers interviewed more than fifty children at one of those facilities, in Clint, Texas, in order to monitor government compliance with the Flores settlement, which mandates that children must be held in safe and sanitary conditions and moved out of Border Patrol custody without unnecessary delays. The conditions the lawyers found were shocking: flu and lice outbreaks were going untreated, and children were filthy, sleeping on cold floors, and taking care of each other because of the lack of attention from guards. Some of them had been in the facility for weeks

[snip]We had approximately ten lawyers, doctors, and interpreters in El Paso this past week. We did not plan to go to the Clint Facility, because it's not a facility that historically receives children. It wasn't even on our radar. It was at a facility that historically only had a maximum occupancy of a hundred and four, and it was an adult facility. So we were not expecting to go there, and then we saw the report, last week, that it appeared that children were being sent to Clint, so we decided to put four teams over there. The teams are one to two attorneys, or an attorney and an interpreter. The idea is that we would be interviewing one child at a time or one sibling group at a time.

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This is not acceptable. This should not be a partisan issue. This is something that every person in this country should be up in arms about. Make your voices heard.
Contacting Congress

U.S. House of Representatives:
* Telephone: 202-225-3121
* Website: Home | House.gov

U.S. Senate:
* Telephone: 202-224-3121
* Website: U.S. Senate

Find your member of Congress and contact him or her:
Contact your Representative Home | House.gov
Contact your Senator https://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Putin's behind all this.

I just know it!

:donkeyfla
 
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