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A Popular Knitting Website Banned Posts Supporting Donald Trump...

j brown's body said:
Ravelry, A Website For Knitting Fans, Banned Posts Supporting Donald Trump

They don't oppose conservative ideas, just hateful ones. and that leaves the president out. They make a valid distinction, for the most part. Anyone espousing a conservative idea that Trump happens to support, well, just leave him out it.
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This made The Late Show with Stephen Colbert tonight. Cute bit. He highlighted a 5 deferment cadet fake bone spurs supporters comment to the decision "Kill yourselves".
 
Hari Seldon said:
This made The Late Show with Stephen Colbert tonight. Cute bit. He highlighted a 5 deferment cadet fake bone spurs supporters comment to the decision "Kill yourselves".
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How is that witty though? It's just dark.
 
truthatallcost said:
How is that witty though? It's just dark.
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That was just one part of the sketch. A lot of combining knitting and political commentary. The "kill yourselves" was really out of place when referencing a knitting community even if they banned white supremacist 5 deferment cadet fake bone spurs supporters.
 
Hari Seldon said:
That was just one part of the sketch. A lot of combining knitting and political commentary. The "kill yourselves" was really out of place when referencing a knitting community even if they banned white supremacist 5 deferment cadet fake bone spurs supporters.
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Kids and their comedy shows today. I just don't get it.
 
Simon W. Moon said:
That's some hyperbolic slippery-slope bull****.

Also inaccurate as well.
There is plenty of association going on.
Trump supporters are not banned from the site.
Just Trump supporting posts, etc.

How ****ing hard can it be to participate in a knitting forum without praising Trump?
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It's not hyperbolic at all. You're just not paying attention. I know...try raging more. I hear people think really clearly when they are raging out at a keyboard.
 
JasperL said:
Not every corner of our lives needs political discussion.
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Agreed...yet all venues are filling up with political activism. We can't enjoy movies without being preached at. We can watch sports games without someone turning it into a protest. Ah...but you see...this is all good so long as the speech and protests are all going in one direction, the one favored by the left.

And the bottom line is Trump is divisive, and he loves it. He encourages it. And his followers love him for it.
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He's definitely divisive and loves the controversy but he's not come close to the divisiveness that the left is enacting. You have elected officials, no...not Trump, calling for their political opponents to be harassed in public. Trump hasn't pulled anything close to that crap.

You might have made a reasonable point about our political environment, but you said instead, "Just another example of the dismantling of the country by the leftists." which is just the kind of BS that a knitting site doesn't need. There's no self reflection, no acknowledgement at all that maybe, maybe....Trump himself plays some role in this. No, you went straight to blaming it all on the "LEFTISTS!!!"
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It's not the right that is shutting down basic liberties that have been the standards in the past. How many riot police had to hold back mobs for either Hillary's or Bernie's political rallies? None? Almost every single Trump rally required riot police protection and sometimes that wasn't even enough, as was the case with Chicago. This was going on before Trump was ever elected.

So now you're on a knitting website and the thread is trashed, because people like me come on and blame Trump because he's objectively a lying, low class, rude, asshole, and you blame the leftists, etc.... We've had thousands of those exchanges here, and that's the purpose of this place, to debate politics.

BTW the capper to this nonsense is your threats of violence if presumably the "leftists" don't change their ways. You couldn't make the knitting website's point better if you tried.
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I'm making no threat of violence. I'm pointing out what we know is true when expression and thoughts are suppressed. It's no more of a threat than what an anthropologist or historian would say about past dynamics and how that could reflect today's climate. If you don't see the increase in division, and where trends are going, then nothing I say will ever cause you to see it.
 
Fishking said:
He's definitely divisive and loves the controversy but he's not come close to the divisiveness that the left is enacting. You have elected officials, no...not Trump, calling for their political opponents to be harassed in public. Trump hasn't pulled anything close to that crap.
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Oh really?
 
Fishking said:
Agreed...yet all venues are filling up with political activism. We can't enjoy movies without being preached at. We can watch sports games without someone turning it into a protest. Ah...but you see...this is all good so long as the speech and protests are all going in one direction, the one favored by the left.
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Not good with me, but I guess it might be for your imaginary friends. Perhaps you should address your point to them.

He's definitely divisive and loves the controversy but he's not come close to the divisiveness that the left is enacting. You have elected officials, no...not Trump, calling for their political opponents to be harassed in public. Trump hasn't pulled anything close to that crap.
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OK, I'm going to end it here because there's no point continuing. You're just going to blame the left, and excuse Trump. The quotes in this cartoon are all accurate. See the link for sources and video.

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JasperL said:
Not good with me, but I guess it might be for your imaginary friends. Perhaps you should address your point to them.



OK, I'm going to end it here because there's no point continuing. You're just going to blame the left, and excuse Trump. The quotes in this cartoon are all accurate. See the link for sources and video.

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And that's not even all of it.

It's enough for the rebuttal, but there's already more, and there will be more still, because that's the kind of scum he is.
 
JasperL said:
Not good with me, but I guess it might be for your imaginary friends. Perhaps you should address your point to them.
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Yet that's the dynamic we have.

OK, I'm going to end it here because there's no point continuing. You're just going to blame the left, and excuse Trump. The quotes in this cartoon are all accurate. See the link for sources and video.

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You can end it here, but I won't. Your quotes are from a response to people coming to his event, and the event of everyone who spent their time and money to get there, to disrupt it. An event that's integral to the political process of our democratic systems. If we were to make a comparison to say....a gay wedding going down and protesters entered the wedding service to yell, scream, and disrupt the wedding, I'd not only be OK with people saying those things, but would be 100% OK of some people in attendance punched them straight in the face. That's their event.

This is entirely different than telling people to go out into various public areas to find and harass members of the opposing political party merely for having a different political ideology.
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Amelia said:
And that's not even all of it.

It's enough for the rebuttal, but there's already more, and there will be more still, because that's the kind of scum he is.
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Ummmm….yeah. You think so but it just isn't. Too bad that you're not only cheer leading for a failed point and can't even come up with one of your own. However, I did rebut that flawed point in #215.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Unless they ban all political speech, it looks like the free speech hating illiberals are bringing us closer and closer to the Supreme Court ruling that addresses this kind of outrageous censorship.
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Sure, knitting older ladies are a hotbed of liberals :lamo

And the OP said they had no issue with conservative ideas, just not Trump mentions.

Also, for the umpteenth time, the knitting website is a private webforum, it can allow and disallow ANYTHING they want. I am sorry but the Supreme Court has no say over a knitting webforum.
 
NiceGuyEddie said:
Simply more evidence of liberal herd-mentality at work. Trump Bhaaaaaad!
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Again KNITTERS are hardly a hotbed of liberals. They do want to keep it civil on their website and yes, then Trump is bad for civility because he is:

- racist
- foulmouthed
- liar
- liar
- liar (yes I know I typed it 3 times but that is because the man is such a humongous liar)
- divisive
- illogical
- uncivil
- etc etc etc

These are most likely elderly knitting white ladies who love their conservatism but who hate the ***** grabbing moron in the White House. And that is their freedom to have and if they thus do not want to fall into the pit of party politics in the run up to 2020 then I fully understand them banning the Trump moron from their site.
 
Deuce said:
"You must either accept everything or nothing," interesting assertion.

What authority does SCOTUS claim over Ravelry.com's moderation rules?
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None of course and most of us get that, this is not a first amendment issue. If you want a knitting website that does nothing but bow and kneels for the Orange Idiot, go for it. That is freedom of speech too, the freedom of the internet. Forcing other websites to do away with their moderation guidelines based on the first amendment is a ludicrous idea if those websites are not run by the government or have governmental connections.
 
Fishking said:
Yet that's the dynamic we have.

OK, I'm going to end it here because there's no point continuing. You're just going to blame the left, and excuse Trump. The quotes in this cartoon are all accurate. See the link for sources and video.



You can end it here, but I won't. Your quotes are from a response to people coming to his event, and the event of everyone who spent their time and money to get there, to disrupt it. An event that's integral to the political process of our democratic systems. If we were to make a comparison to say....a gay wedding going down and protesters entered the wedding service to yell, scream, and disrupt the wedding, I'd not only be OK with people saying those things, but would be 100% OK of some people in attendance punched them straight in the face. That's their event.

This is entirely different than telling people to go out into various public areas to find and harass members of the opposing political party merely for having a different political ideology.
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So it's okay to beat the crap out of someone disrupting his event. How dare they! Freedom of speech is only for those who can afford to pay for the microphone.
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Simon W. Moon said:
WHAT.
THE.
****?

What the actual **** do you think the SCotUS is going to do about this blogger's decision about her site?

Do you actually think the Supreme Court of the United States of America is going to tell some blogger what sorts of comments she can have on her site?
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Sadly it seems this poster really is that deluded to think that.
 
Peter King said:
Sure, knitting older ladies are a hotbed of liberals :lamo

And the OP said they had no issue with conservative ideas, just not Trump mentions.

Also, for the umpteenth time, the knitting website is a private webforum, it can allow and disallow ANYTHING they want. I am sorry but the Supreme Court has no say over a knitting webforum.
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We'll see. :)
 
3leftsdoo said:
The 1st often applies to private companies.
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Is your opinion, but now that you said that I think you will give us many examples where the 1st amendment was applied to private companies when it regards freedom of speech in business settings.
 
Simon W. Moon said:
I am heartily disappointed you're not going to explain how the SCotUS would come to rule on whether or not a knitting blogger can pick and choose which comments appear on her blog.


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He cannot, his comments are based on wishful thinking rather than reality.
 
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