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US official says Iranian missile downed US drone - msn.com

Got to love answers that are blatantly pointless.

Hardly. Picking and choosing when you believe the IC is lying based on whether or not it is politically inconvenient while saying that others are wrong and dangerous because they are picking and choosing when they believe the IC based on whether or not it is politically inconvenient remains hypocritical.

Funny, though :).


As for being so old, are you old enough to remember 2003?

Yup. And, in fact, I've had to study the process of that assessment both professionally and academically on multiple occasions. I'm guessing, based on your attempt to reference it here, that you haven't?

It's fine if you haven't, it's probably a niche thing. But it's probably incumbent on me to make you aware that that statement doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.
 
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Not being quick to accept the narrative presented by an administration with credibility issues and who is interested in regime change in Iran is not the same as "standing with Iran".
Accusing the military and intelligence community of not only lying, but fabricating evidence in support of a false flag operation (which is what this would require) isn't exactly "not being quick to accept Trump's word" which, I agree, is pretty much useless. It's something else entirely.

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I find it totally baffling how ready idiotic Trump supporters are to get into a war with Iran. You're not someone who thinks about all of the consequences of the things you demand. No, we're not going to war with Iran and stop trying to make it happen.
Remember back during the campaign when they were telling us if we let Hillary become president she'd start a war, maybe with Russia?

Ah, good times.

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I find it totally baffling how ready idiotic Trump supporters are to get into a war with Iran. You're not someone who thinks about all of the consequences of the things you demand. No, we're not going to war with Iran and stop trying to make it happen.

Stupid is as stupid does. We all saw this coming. Most of us warned about it.
 
I find it totally baffling how ready idiotic Trump supporters are to get into a war with Iran. You're not someone who thinks about all of the consequences of the things you demand. No, we're not going to war with Iran and stop trying to make it happen.

if every new war came with significant wartime tax rates, the right would surpass the peace movement in opposition. this is why i support doing exactly that.
 
I find it totally baffling how ready idiotic Trump supporters are to get into a war with Iran. You're not someone who thinks about all of the consequences of the things you demand. No, we're not going to war with Iran and stop trying to make it happen.

They are so dumb, and such brainwashed morons they seem to forget already what a complete cluster F Iraq was. iran would be even worse,nobody wants to sign up to fight BS wars, we are already broke, and we would yet again look like the bad guys. Would actually be even worse, because Trump is such a complete jackass that he would completely bumble anything he did.

THe same idiots say we can't afford healthcare, infrastructure, education, but can afford to piss away billions killing people. The right truly are scumbags
 
I suggest we send everyone with a red hat to Iran and let them sort this out.

Let's see how patriotic those assholes really are.
 
Last week,you all were cheering the Pentagon for keeping Trump in the dark. This week, the Pentagon is lying?

I'm quite sure I wasn't cheering the Pentagon for keeping Trump in the dark. On what issue even? I have no idea.

As for the Pentagon and the CIA, it's not like they're known for telling the truth, is it?

I mean, it feels kind of like 2003, only this time I think it's Trump ramping up the pressure to try and force Iran into a deal, just like North Korea. And just like with North Korea, it'll go nowhere.
 
I suggest we send everyone with a red hat to Iran and let them sort this out.

Let's see how patriotic those assholes really are.
Perhaps you could go over there and huge it out with them.
 
US official says Iranian missile downed US drone - msn.com

US official says Iranian missile downed US drone
11 minutes ago · A U.S. official says that an Iranian surface-to-air missile shot down a U.S. drone flying in international airspace over the Strait of Hormuz. The official …

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That is an act of war. How will President Trump react? Will the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats allow President Trump to respond?

How many Tonkin Gulf Incidents do they think we need?
 
Hardly. Picking and choosing when you believe the IC is lying based on whether or not it is politically inconvenient while saying that others are wrong and dangerous because they are picking and choosing when they believe the IC based on whether or not it is politically inconvenient remains hypocritical.

Funny, though :).




Yup. And, in fact, I've had to study the process of that assessment both professionally and academically on multiple occasions. I'm guessing, based on your attempt to reference it here, that you haven't?

It's fine if you haven't, it's probably a niche thing. But it's probably incumbent on me to make you aware that that statement doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.

"No, it's not" is a pointless answer because it doesn't do anything for this debate. And quite frankly, I'm not interested in people who make debating the same as having a wisdom tooth out.

As for your "Well I had to study this and do this and I bet you haven't", **** me, this is excruciating. I'm going back to trying to eat after having my weirdo wisdom tooth taken out.
 
Never ever fails does it? The liberals will stand with Iran because they hateTrump so much.

Naw. A plague on both of your houses.

You just want a war. Any war will do.
 
So you side with America? That’s great.

Yeah. And it's in the interests of America to find out what's going on, not just have a tantrum and throw another few thousand wounded vets onto the streets.
 
US official says Iranian missile downed US drone - msn.com

US official says Iranian missile downed US drone
11 minutes ago · A U.S. official says that an Iranian surface-to-air missile shot down a U.S. drone flying in international airspace over the Strait of Hormuz. The official …

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That is an act of war. How will President Trump react? Will the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats allow President Trump to respond?

Ohnoes a drone! That poor little drone!:lamo
 
Yeah. And it's in the interests of America to find out what's going on, not just have a tantrum and throw another few thousand wounded vets onto the streets.

What makes ya think it will be boots on da ground? MSNBC tell ya that?
 
What makes ya think it will be boots on da ground? MSNBC tell ya that?

Just looking at the last 18 years of stupidity. There's a bit of a trend.
 
How many Tonkin Gulf Incidents do they think we need?

Only a Democrat could think up a Gulf of Tonkin attack. Trump didn't have think this one up at happened. The Iranians claim they shot down the drone and we have evidence by GPS coordinates to prove the drone was in international air space.
 
Only a Democrat could think up a Gulf of Tonkin attack. Trump didn't have think this one up at happened. The Iranians claim they shot down the drone and we have evidence by GPS coordinates to prove the drone was in international air space.

All I've seen is that they gave coordinates and they gave coordinates.

Which side has a motive, here?
 
I am not a "progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA or Democrat" and I don't want to see us go to war over a stupid drone. A drone is an unmanned piece of machinery that can be replaced at the cost of a (relatively) few dollars.

I wouldn't exchange a single American life for one.

War is not a game, it is a deadly serious endeavor. War should be avoided unless it is absolutely necessary, and then it should be pursued with absolute commitment aimed at a swift and utter victory at the least cost to citizen's lives possible.

Exactly. Drones were deployed so humans would not get shot down. Drones are expendable like ammunition.
 
if every new war came with significant wartime tax rates, the right would surpass the peace movement in opposition. this is why i support doing exactly that.

No war. How about a police action.:lamo
 
All I've seen is that they gave coordinates and they gave coordinates.

Which side has a motive, here?

Well we know the Iranians wouldn't lie. Now our intelligence only lies for the republicans. So I say we send over our military to claim asylum. A sort of trojan horse.
 
Well we know the Iranians wouldn't lie. Now our intelligence only lies for the republicans. So I say we send over our military to claim asylum. A sort of trojan horse.

John Bolton has had a boner for a war with Iran since the 80s, and he's running the show again.

If he told me the sky was blue, I'd look out the window to see for myself.
 
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