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Trump Promises to Cure Cancer if Re-elected

Trump said in the interview with Georg Stephanopoulos he averages four hours sleep per night. Add that to his diet of burgers and fries he won't be around to the a cure for a scuffed knee.
 
The difference is that Trump will have the "most fantastic" cure. Also, that he is lying.

Maybe he should start talking about his "most fantastic" healthcare system since he hasn't said much about it other than "who knew healthcare was this complicated?". It would help having a system to make his cancer cure affordable.

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I've watched several people die of cancer, this **** is not funny and Trump (or anyone) is an asshole to platform on promising to cure it.

The way I read it, Trump is talking about research.

To be clear, i think it's a good goal to have. No matter who is President. That's not the point.

Biden was ridiculed by the Trumpettes for making thst goal clear, and now their guy is doing it. What's the actual difference here?

The actual difference is that ...

After losing his son to cancer, Joe Biden
- launched Cancer Moonshot initiative while being the Vice President. The federal government ended up authorizing $1.8 billion to fund the Cancer Moonshot initiatives over the next seven years -- funding which is still ongoing
- later on, he created Biden Cancer Initiative with goals to "develop and drive implementation of solutions to accelerate progress in cancer prevention, detection, diagnosis, research, and care, and to reduce disparities in cancer outcomes."

Meanwhile, Trump (aside from apparently being fine with his offspring criticizing Biden's cancer comment), CUT Cancer research by a billion while in the White House.
 
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Maybe he should start talking about his "most fantastic" healthcare system since he hasn't said much about it other than "who knew healthcare was this complicated?". It would help having a system to make his cancer cure affordable.

:)

See, and all we have to do for all this fantastic work on healthcare is reelect him and his creepy friend Mitch McConnell. :mrgreen:
 
Well since Trump has joined the bandwagon, why hasn't he cured cancer before? Surely he could have built the most beautiful, magnificent, cancer-cure-finding facility ever with all of the billions he supposedly has. Seems like a waste spending money on all those failed ventures when he could have been curing cancer. What a waste of money. SAD.
If I had to guess I'd say neither Obama nor Biden spent any of their own money searching for cures, either. :cool:
 
Well since Trump has joined the bandwagon, why hasn't he cured cancer before? Surely he could have built the most beautiful, magnificent, cancer-cure-finding facility ever with all of the billions he supposedly has. Seems like a waste spending money on all those failed ventures when he could have been curing cancer. What a waste of money. SAD.

If I had to guess I'd say neither Obama nor Biden spent any of their own money searching for cures, either. :cool:

I'd guess differently but I won't even bother looking it up because as I posted a little earlier, the difference that really matters is that ...

After losing his son to cancer, Biden
- launched Cancer Moonshot initiative while being the Vice President. This program got $1.8 billion.
- later, he created Biden Cancer Initiative with goals to "develop and drive implementation of solutions to accelerate progress in cancer prevention, detection, diagnosis, research, and care, and to reduce disparities in cancer outcomes."

Meanwhile, Trump (aside from apparently being fine with his offspring criticizing Biden's cancer comment), CUT Cancer research by a billion while in the White House... and then decided to parrot Biden in his promises and comically up-end them with promises to cure AIDS too.
 
The actual difference is that ...

After losing his son to cancer, Joe Biden
- launched Cancer Moonshot initiative while being the Vice President. The federal government ended up authorizing $1.8 billion to fund the Cancer Moonshot initiatives over the next seven years -- funding which is still ongoing
- later on, he created Biden Cancer Initiative with goals to "develop and drive implementation of solutions to accelerate progress in cancer prevention, detection, diagnosis, research, and care, and to reduce disparities in cancer outcomes."

Meanwhile, Trump (aside from apparently being fine with his offspring criticizing Biden's cancer comment), CUT Cancer research by a billion while in the White House.
Any cures announced? :cool:
 
If I had to guess I'd say neither Obama nor Biden spent any of their own money searching for cures, either. :cool:

I wouldn't expect Trump to pay for it out of his own money either; especially since he doesn't even pay for more relevant things like the money he owes the cities where he's held his rallies.
 
Blessings on your wife that she recovers completely.
Nope, anyone making big money in the medical industry doesn't really want a cure. Big Pharma would love to see a 50 thousand dollar PILL that can put it in remission, maybe after 300 thousand dollars worth of regular doses, the for profit hospitals would love to see a 50 thousand dollar test to go along with the 300 thousand dollars worth of pills.

But in the end, if you're making big money in healthcare, you want remission and symptom management, not a CURE.
And that's why focusing on profit alone is anathema to wellness, anathema to medicine itself.

It's like private prisons...if the crime problem goes away, they're in trouble.

Thank you and agreed.
 
Trump promises to cure cancer if re-elected

Only shared because all the righties laughed when Joe Biden said it. Now Trump says it. Funny.

tRump promises = It will never happen.

It would just be another lie to add to the list. If tRump stepped up the pace a bit, he'd top 50k lies if re-elected, but he's weakening though, because he spends too much effort trying to lie about something new. Where the hell is his staff when he needs them?

His staff could easily make a list of past lies allowing tRump to just tell the same lies again. What difference does it make? I'm not going to believe him if it's a new lie or an old one and his supporters will believe him and not even notice it's the same lie told again. How can they notice, the lies get masked in volume? Once you're above 10k, no one wants to remember all that crap, supporter or not.
 
I've watched several people die of cancer, this **** is not funny and Trump (or anyone) is an asshole to platform on promising to cure it.

(Yes, I made almost the same post in the thread regarding Joe campaigning on it.)

I would not mind if it was phrased to be 'we will concentrate on more research to fight cancer'. In both cases, that is more realistic.
 
Blessings on your wife that she recovers completely.
Nope, anyone making big money in the medical industry doesn't really want a cure. Big Pharma would love to see a 50 thousand dollar PILL that can put it in remission, maybe after 300 thousand dollars worth of regular doses, the for profit hospitals would love to see a 50 thousand dollar test to go along with the 300 thousand dollars worth of pills.

But in the end, if you're making big money in healthcare, you want remission and symptom management, not a CURE.
And that's why focusing on profit alone is anathema to wellness, anathema to medicine itself.

It's like private prisons...if the crime problem goes away, they're in trouble.


Couldn't agree with you more.

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Why cure something that a drug company can just keep you coming back for more medication to control whatever? Control equals profits, cures equal a profit margin that will disappear.

It's not QUITE as bad up in Canada but in general the Western approach to medicine, at the commercial level, is very much focused on generating continuous revenue streams rather than a possible solution.
What I mean is, we used to say "We must eradicate tuberculosis, we must eradicate polio, we must eradicate smallpox, we must eradicate HIV".
I haven't heard anything about eradicating diabetes, heart disease, multiple sclerosis or Alzheimers disease. I'm hearing about controlling symptoms and managing the illness.

And when it comes to HIV, indeed...we've now turned a corner.
Gilead Pharmaceutical is trying to claim that the U.S. Government patent on Truvada, a drug that was 100 percent created at taxpayer expense, is INVALID, and it has the right to charge $2000 a month for it in the USA versus EIGHT dollars in Australia.

So much for eradicating or preventing AIDS. If you're wealthy you can join in the eradication and prevention fight against this global killer.

Don't have 300 bucks? Sorry, no Humalog insulin for you then.
A Pharmacy Benefit Management middleman cartel is now in control of pricing, and they've double or even tripled the US price of insulin in the last four years.
The original patent on Insulin sold for THREE dollars, one dollar each for the three scientists who invented it.
They agreed that this was the best way to ensure that affordable treatment would be available to everyone who needed it.

By the way, for the last sixty years, we've used the same approach to fighting WARS. We no longer officially declare a "state of war" through Congress and that means we don't have to formulate a hard objective or an end game or plan for the aftermath, not if we can continue "managing the conflict". (translation: maintain the revenue stream)

It doesn't even matter if we lose. As long as the conflict continues to be managed, the war profiteers WIN.
And that's because the moment an enemy surrenders, the war is over and so is the gravy train, and then begins the expensive proposition of helping the target country's society to return to some semblance of normalcy, and that sort of thing requires altruism, which is perhaps the most profit-draining idea in the universe.

I am not against profit.
There are millions of ways to make obscene amounts of money in this world but when it comes to things which determine absolute life or death for millions of people, it is hard for me to cheer for profit.
 
Maybe he should start talking about his "most fantastic" healthcare system since he hasn't said much about it other than "who knew healthcare was this complicated?". It would help having a system to make his cancer cure affordable.

:)

Finish the gaffe!!

"Now, I have to tell you, it's an unbelievably complex subject. Nobody knew health care could be so complicated."

And WHY DID nobody know? Because if Trump didn't know, NOBODY could have known! If Trump doesn't know something, it is UNKNOWABLE! :lamo

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If I had to guess I'd say neither Obama nor Biden spent any of their own money searching for cures, either. :cool:

And you're implying that Donald Trump is going to dip into his own pocket? That is the funniest thing I've heard in years!

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Why cure something that a drug company can just keep you coming back for more medication to control whatever? Control equals profits, cures equal a profit margin that will disappear.

It doesn’t work like that.

If there’s a path to a cure, companies would definitely run with it.

Look at the story with Hepatitis C. A cure was developed, several companies were in the race, and Gilead, the one who got to market first with the best drug absolutely made a boatload.

Now, the market in the US has dried up because everyone who had it was cured.
 
Finish the gaffe!!

"Now, I have to tell you, it's an unbelievably complex subject. Nobody knew health care could be so complicated."

And WHY DID nobody know? Because if Trump didn't know, NOBODY could have known! If Trump doesn't know something, it is UNKNOWABLE! :lamo

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Yeah, no one could have known. Not the people working on it, not doctors, not experts in the field. Absolutely no one.

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Somehow I see too many people playing game trying to protect the Democrats to keep the light shining on Trump. He did nothing wrong here, he mocked a guy that needed mocking and was fair game as a candidate. That had zero to do with cancer patients.

Are you familiar with how Joe Biden's son died?

Do you think he has a personal stake in 'curing cancer' or is he just saying stupid stuff so Trump and his minions can mock him?
 
Yeah, no one could have known. Not the people working on it, not doctors, not experts in the field. Absolutely no one.

:)

He knows more than the generals, so naturally he knows more than the doctors and researchers, too.
 
Somehow I see too many people playing game trying to protect the Democrats to keep the light shining on Trump. He did nothing wrong here, he mocked a guy that needed mocking and was fair game as a candidate. That had zero to do with cancer patients.

It's incredible that anyone would see it otherwise.

TDS is real.
 
Are you familiar with how Joe Biden's son died?

Do you think he has a personal stake in 'curing cancer' or is he just saying stupid stuff so Trump and his minions can mock him?

Well depends on whether you think he's a common politicians spewing rhetoric. He personal stake shouldn't cause him to make a promise he doesn't know he can keep. Promising tax cuts only requires votes in Congress that you can blame on others if it fails. Promise to cure a disease is science; make a promise like that without consulting anyone first is stupid. People count on those kinds of promises, but everyone accepts tax cut talk as just talk.
 
Well depends on whether you think he's a common politicians spewing rhetoric. He personal stake shouldn't cause him to make a promise he doesn't know he can keep. Promising tax cuts only requires votes in Congress that you can blame on others if it fails. Promise to cure a disease is science; make a promise like that without consulting anyone first is stupid. People count on those kinds of promises, but everyone accepts tax cut talk as just talk.

Yeah, I remember another politician who made a promise he didn't know he could keep. His promise regarded science and he had not consulted anyone first, either.

 
Cancer can be cured but it requires an update in the way we approach biology and life. The key to the cure is water.

If you took a single cell, such as a yeast cell, and dehydrated it, it would no longer be alive. It still has all the organic and inorganic diversity, but without water, it is inanimate like a rock. If add water back, the cell comes to life and all systems become animated, down to the tiniest proteins and ions.

If we dehydrate the cell again, but this time add any other solvent, besides water, the cell will never come alive. In fact, no enzyme will work properly. Water is more than a just a solvent. It is half of the dynamics behind everything in the cell. Life evolved in water and water was the environment for natural selection at the chemical nano-scale. DNA is tuned to the potentials of water, and does not work for any other solvent. In fact, DNA is the most hydrated molecule in the cell. This was the goal from day one, i.e., evolve an molecule that can sort of be in harmony with water. This is why it becomes the center of attention in water; model citizen.

The being said, cancer can be approached from the water side of the equation. Currently, we only approach cancer from the organic side. Instead of treating each cancer as a unique organic thing, we can develop water based strategies, that deal with the diversity of cancer, in global ways.

As an analogous example for one strategy, if we took oil and water and shook them vigorously, we will end up with an emulsion, which is a mixture of tiny oil and water droplets. If we allow this mixture to settle, the water and oil will phase separate into two layers. The water is trying to stabilize itself, in terms of hydrogen bonding energy, and it pushes the oil out of the water; two layers.

Cancer is analogous to an emulsion, in the sense of it being very loosely held group of semi-autonomous cells, each with its own single cell agenda. The worse forms of cancer end with the cancer emulsion breaking down to single cancer cell droplets. Water can be used to reverse this cancer emulsion, back to a simpler two phase order. A cancer can stabilize its own emulsion, but we can modify the water, to counter this, so it bunches up the caner for easier extraction or for long terms stabilization; reabsorption.
 
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