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Florida officer guilty of negligence for shooting caretaker

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Florida officer guilty of negligence for shooting caretaker

[FONT=&quot]MIAMI (AP) — A Florida police officer has been convicted of a misdemeanor but acquitted of attempted manslaughter for shooting at a severely autistic man and wounding the man's caretaker.
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]A jury deliberated for four hours late Monday before finding North Miami police Officer Jonathan Aledda guilty of culpable negligence in the 2016 shooting of caretaker Charles Kinsey, who was trying to protect 27-year-old Arnaldo Rios Soto. Aledda faces up to a year in jail but because he was acquitted of a felony, he might be able to remain a police officer.[/FONT]
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Proving yet again that police are 1st class citizens and normie civilians are 2nd class citizens whenever a cop does commit a crime.
 
For those that weren't tracking this particular case, the man that was shot was an unarmed black man who was laying on the ground with his hands up pleading with Law Enforcement to not shoot him or the autistic man he was taking care of. Below is the image of the victim, moments prior to being shot by Jonathan Aledda:

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CMPancake said:
For those that weren't tracking this particular case, the man that was shot was an unarmed black man who was laying on the ground with his hands up pleading with Law Enforcement to not shoot him or the autistic man he was taking care of. Below is the image of the victim, moments prior to being shot by Jonathan Aledda:

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And this is exactly why vigilante street justice against random police officers is becoming common.

When the citizens see the government abusing and murdering their countrymen and nothing being done about it, it's only a matter of time before somebody shoots back.

I don't condone it, but that's the reality of the situation, and it should give those that serve as apologists for police culture some pause.
 
MovingPictures said:
And this is exactly why vigilante street justice against random police officers is becoming common.

When the citizens see the government abusing and murdering their countrymen and nothing being done about it, it's only a matter of time before somebody shoots back.

I don't condone it, but that's the reality of the situation, and it should give those that serve as apologists for police culture some pause.
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I heard that a woman who voted for Hillary shot her husband.

I've concluded that any woman who voted for Hillary is a homicidal threat.

Because that's logical.

:donkeyfla
 
MovingPictures said:
And this is exactly why vigilante street justice against random police officers is becoming common.

When the citizens see the government abusing and murdering their countrymen and nothing being done about it, it's only a matter of time before somebody shoots back.

I don't condone it, but that's the reality of the situation, and it should give those that serve as apologists for police culture some pause.
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you are attributing malice to what was actually coaxed by fear
the shooting victim will have his day in civil court
 
Plato’s Republic does a good job of walking through the reasoning and results of hero worship. It’s scary stuff.
 
Cop tried to kill an innocent person and gets a ****ing misdemeanor? Again, "highly trained" cops are held to a standard less than every other person. And again, people with disabilities are told their lives don't matter.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Sure - just ask OJ.
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He said normal civilians. O.J. is a celebrity. Along with politicians and cops there's no shortage of crimes from rape, drug dealing, money laundering, vehicular homicide and the shooting of unarmed civilians that they can't get away with. Mostly because people worship them so much they throw out logic and reason to defend even their most obviously egregious actions.

3leftsdoo said:
I heard that a woman who voted for Hillary shot her husband.

I've concluded that any woman who voted for Hillary is a homicidal threat.

Because that's logical.

:donkeyfla
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What does your illogical hatred of all Hillary supporters have to do with anything he said?
 
3leftsdoo said:
I heard that a woman who voted for Hillary shot her husband.

I've concluded that any woman who voted for Hillary is a homicidal threat.

Because that's logical.

:donkeyfla
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It's 'logical' in some alternative universe but not in the real one.
 
For some reason, law enforcement employment seems to attract some not so very nice people.

Racist posts from police officers’ social media accounts trigger a wave of investigations

Several cities have launched investigations into the online conduct of their police officers after a database revealed thousands of racist and otherwise offensive social media posts by current or former members of law enforcement.

The Plain View Project (PVP) has since 2017 examined the public profiles of police officers from eight jurisdictions. Its findings were detailed in an investigative feature published jointly by Injustice Watch and BuzzFeed News on Saturday.

After matching published employee rosters with Facebook profiles, and examining the public posts those individuals made, the project found thousands of Facebook posts and comments that ran the gamut from racist memes to conspiracy theories to bombastic expressions of violence. Several expressed the desire to use a taser or deadly force on suspects, actions that have brought law enforcement under scrutiny in recent years and sparked nationwide protests against police brutality.

“Instead of hands up don’t shoot, how about pull your pants up don’t loot!” read a meme that depicted the late African American singer Sammy Davis Jr. in an apparent dig at the Black Lives Matter movement. The image was shared on Facebook in 2015 by a captain in the Philadelphia Police Department.
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More recently in Phoenix, a black couple was treated in an ever-so-nice manner by properly trained officers

Phoenix family who had guns pulled on them wants police officers fired, not a ‘half-apology’

A Phoenix couple is calling for justice after police pulled weapons and threatened to shoot them after their 4-year-old daughter took a doll from a bargain store, they said.

Dravon Ames, 22, and his fiancee, Iesha Harper, 24, said they were detained last month over allegations of shoplifting from a Family Dollar Store in Phoenix. Video released by police first showed the officers shouting at Ames and putting him into a patrol car, before turning their attention to Harper, who is visibly pregnant and was with the couple’s 1- and 4-year-old daughters.

The Phoenix police chief and Mayor Kate Gallego (D) offered public apologies, but the couple said it’s not enough.

“This feels like it’s a half-apology,” Ames said during a news conference Monday. “The officers are still working. It’s just basically a slap in the face.”

Phoenix police said that they learned last week that there was video of the incident, “showing extremely offensive and unprofessional language and actions by the officers during the arrests.”
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marke said:
Dummass racists see one example of a black man doing something horrible to a white man and the dummasses conclude all blacks are wicked racists. Likewise, dummasses see one cop make a mistake or do something wrong or evil and the morons conclude cops are either incompetent or evil. Stupidity like that is tearing this country apart.
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Isn't it just as stupid to act like all cops are innocent? Who here said anything about all cops being evil? This one particular cop, shot an unarmed, pleading black man, laying on his back with his hands in the air, who was risking his life trying to get the officer to not shoot the unarmed disabled man playing with a toy in the street. Do you have any comments about this particular incident or do you want to keep pretending everyone is demonizing all cops?
 
MovingPictures said:
And this is exactly why vigilante street justice against random police officers is becoming common.

When the citizens see the government abusing and murdering their countrymen and nothing being done about it, it's only a matter of time before somebody shoots back.

I don't condone it, but that's the reality of the situation, and it should give those that serve as apologists for police culture some pause.
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I condone self-defense.
 
dirtpoorchris said:
Florida officer guilty of negligence for shooting caretaker



Proving yet again that police are 1st class citizens and normie civilians are 2nd class citizens whenever a cop does commit a crime.
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And proving again that the average American jury these days is merely a rubber stamp of approval for government misbehavior. Yes, we have the government we deserve.

Though to keep things in perspective, a Palm Beach jury did convict a few months ago the police officer who shot and killed an innocent man.
 
dirtpoorchris said:
Proving yet again that police are 1st class citizens and normie civilians are 2nd class citizens whenever a cop does commit a crime.
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I don’t think this is directly comparable. As an armed police officer in that situation, it’s his job to shoot people if they pose sufficient threat. His failure was apparently in his assessment of the threat. It isn’t the job of a normal citizen to shoot anyone posing a threat (it might be permitted in very specific circumstances, but it isn’t their job). A random passer by deciding to fire their weapon in to that incident would be making a very different kind of error than the officer did. You can argue specific rights and wrongs either way but I don’t think you can present them as exactly the same. Otherwise, what would be the point in having police officers at all?
 
Somerville said:
The paper, that Trump hates almost as much as he hates (and fears) as the NYTimes, the Washington Post keeps track of police killings. Interesting, I think, that most of the shootings have no bodycam records.

421 people have been shot and killed by police in 2019
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When "everyone" is running with gun in hand it's stressful situation for police officers - you have to pull your gun from holster before doing anything else, it's like that?

There's one thing I don't get about police-shootings in US: do police have any idea if this is escalating if everything (all variables) are in place like they are now (every current nuance/possibilities how police/people act in those situations - and no ways to reduce this problem?). Because I can imagine how it's feeding itself and getting harder problem for police (and for countrymen). If it escalates, like +10% rate every year, it's pain-in-ass after 10 years and even harder to deal with.

I'm not sure what should be do about it, but if nothing is done in several following years - well.. there should be some angry people around and protest march on streets.
 
FinnFox said:
When "everyone" is running with gun in hand it's stressful situation for police officers - you have to pull your gun from holster before doing anything else, it's like that?

There's one thing I don't get about police-shootings in US: do police have any idea if this is escalating if everything (all variables) are in place like they are now (every current nuance/possibilities how police/people act in those situations - and no ways to reduce this problem?). Because I can imagine how it's feeding itself and getting harder problem for police (and for countrymen). If it escalates, like +10% rate every year, it's pain-in-ass after 10 years and even harder to deal with.

I'm not sure what should be do about it, but if nothing is done in several following years - well.. there should be some angry people around and protest march on streets.
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People have been shot and killed by the police even when the person shot had no weapon or was running away from the police officers.

One tenet of faith among American gun advocates is "A good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun." Then we have something like this story which took place last week in Florida

A road-rage apology ends in bloodshed on Flamingo Road

When a man tried to apologize for cutting off a fellow driver, he was shot in the street.

On Friday afternoon, Keith Byrne, 41, was driving his work truck on South Flamingo Road in Davie near Eighth Street when he cut off a BMW, said Lt. Mark Leone, a Davie police spokesman.

At the time, Byrne was on the phone with a friend, police said. He told his friend he was going to stop at the light and apologize to the driver of the BMW.

When the two cars got to the light, Byrne got out of the car, but so did Andre Sinclair, 22, who was in the passenger seat of the BMW, police said. He had a gun in his hand.

Byrne’s friend heard him say “my bad” to Sinclair, but then heard gunshots.

“I think I’ve been shot,” Byrne told his friend.

Byrne took out his gun and fired back.
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Both men are dead.
 
Master Debator said:
Isn't it just as stupid to act like all cops are innocent? Who here said anything about all cops being evil? This one particular cop, shot an unarmed, pleading black man, laying on his back with his hands in the air, who was risking his life trying to get the officer to not shoot the unarmed disabled man playing with a toy in the street. Do you have any comments about this particular incident or do you want to keep pretending everyone is demonizing all cops?
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One cop made a mistake and he will pay for that. Only Dumas bigots would try to cast a shadow over all cops because of what the one did.
 
CMPancake said:
For those that weren't tracking this particular case, the man that was shot was an unarmed black man who was laying on the ground with his hands up pleading with Law Enforcement to not shoot him or the autistic man he was taking care of. Below is the image of the victim, moments prior to being shot by Jonathan Aledda:

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I remember it well, I live in flori-duh. The cops are out of control and have been for years.
 
justabubba said:
you are attributing malice to what was actually coaxed by fear
the shooting victim will have his day in civil court
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BS, watch the video. The guy on the ground did everything not to get shot and yet he ended up being shot. He threatened not a soul and was still shot. Shot for trying to protect an autistic kid. Yeah, defend the cops.
 
marke said:
One cop made a mistake and he will pay for that. Only Dumas bigots would try to cast a shadow over all cops because of what the one did.
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The mistake he made was shooting an innocent, unarmed man and he might not even lose his job. It's outcomes like that that cast shadows over all other cops.
 
marke said:
Dummass racists see one example of a black man doing something horrible to a white man and the dummasses conclude all blacks are wicked racists. Likewise, dummasses see one cop make a mistake or do something wrong or evil and the morons conclude cops are either incompetent or evil. Stupidity like that is tearing this country apart.
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A Police Officer shot a black man that was unarmed, supine, and with his arms raised pleading with officers not to shoot him because he was caring for his autistic patient. The courts didn't give the Officer a felony to allow the Officer to return to Law Enforcement. This is as clear of a sign as any that Law Enforcement is consistently protected from any sense of accountability.
 
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