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KKK group heavily outnumbered by counterprotesters at their own rally in Dayton

joko104 said:
Seriously, what's the big deal? If a few guys want to walk down the street like idiots carrying flags, so what? They'll millions of kooky, weird people out there. Certainly behaved better than Antifa or BLM marchers.

I would rather those 9 go by with their 3 flags if I'm sitting on a bench on the sidewalk, then a parade of a couple hundred naked with body paint mostly older overweight woman at the Key West annual Gay Pride parade. I mean, damn, how'd I end up being there that day?
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You'd think the 9 that were going to show, would've just said screw it. When they realized only 9 out of what I believe was originally going to be about 21 people. Were going to show up.
 
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rocket88 said:
Why do you downplay them? This seems to be a thing on the right. Every time, we can count on you guys to show up saying there aren't any of them.
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Please quote and link, to any post where I have said there aren't any of them.

Every time facts are presented about these KKK a-holes, people can count on the alt-lefter's to lie about what is said.
 
AGENT J said:
How does it factually do either or those things

it actually doesnt show or "prove" either of those . . .

not saying neither are true or false just saying it factually shows neither thing and your claim is false.
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They were outnumbered. Show how few of them there are. How does it not?
 
bomberfox said:
I take number of terrorist incidents when compared to others seriously. Not sorry that offends but hell with trumpianzees, counter nazis by beating them back.. REEEEEEE! Counter the klan by holding a counter demonstration with nobody getting hurt REEEEEEE! Cant win with you folks.
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???? English please.
 
rocket88 said:
KKK group heavily outnumbered by counterprotesters at their own rally in Dayton | TheHill

A Klu Klux Klan (KKK) rally held in Dayton, Ohio, on Saturday drew only nine members to the event and hundreds of counterprotesters.

I'm actually proud of you, America.
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I would ask why? You're proud of us for not being as horrible as the news says we are?

It's no mystery to anybody why only 9 klan members who showed up.

I would say the biggest mystery it's how you can call nine people a rally
 
GDViking said:
I'm willing to bet that is a lot more than Muslim terrorist cells, are they insignificant???
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Not at all. But no one is running around pretending they are.
 
ajn678 said:
Seems kind of a waste to go to counter protest 9 people.
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Well the idea behind a protest is to get other people to agree with you. I think the Klan rally exists so that the Klan can let people know that they really exist, but I don't think they're getting many takers. Meaning that protesting against them is moot.

Tell me what would be far more insulting is if 9 idiots dressed up as ghosts calling themselves Grand wizards had their little "rally" and nobody cared enough to even protest.

But it isn't about protests you're saying that these people should not be listened to it's about wanting to see people fight. If someone were to provoke one of these clan members into an altercation in the clan member was subsequently handed a nap. There would be some form of catharsis for all the people who feel like they're being discriminated against based on their race.

Rest assured everyone is there for a selfish reason.
 
rocket88 said:
Well, who knew at the time it would be so poorly attended?
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Anybody who hasn't been living under a rock for the past 80 years.

How often do you see a klansman? I've lived in the South my entire life. I've never encountered a klansman, a Neo-Nazi yes, if we want to count that and just lump all the white supremacy groups into one category. Then it's one. It was at a bar and everybody hated this man. anytime you would sit next to somebody they would get up and leave. the only reason I found out who he was it's because I didn't know who he was.

That's it in all the time I've lived in Texas Louisiana and Alabama. Just one.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Jesus. Racist morons are entitled to assemble peacefully. This is exactly why violent counter-protesters should be arrested and charged to the limit of the law---the same goes for violent protesters. No matter what you think of people, they have rights.
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Yes of course VIOLENT protesters are breaking other laws (not violating someone's 1A rights, which they cannot do, because the 1A doesn't bind private citizens) and should be arrested. The point was the Klukkers First Amendment rights aren't being violated by counter protesters, because protesting is also protected speech, including protesting Klukkers.
 
JasperL said:
Counter protesting does not threaten anyone's first amendment rights. Counter protesting is protected speech, same as the speech of those Klukkers. Those Klukkers are free to hold their rally, government allowed it, and counter protesters are just as free to show up and point and laugh or make fun or whatever kind of speech they want to engage in in opposition to racist scum. Racist morons aren't entitled to a peaceful, quiet walk through town and a nice attentive audience for their racist bilge.
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I agree it absolutely is your First Amendment right to counter protest. But I think thousands of people showing up sends the wrong message. It shows the clan that they're more important than they really are.

Imagine if all nine of these clowns showed up dressed in their little ghost outfits and nobody cared. Maybe make some jokes about how Halloween is in October, or that ghosts shouldn't be pointy. But when thousands of people show up to say how stupid these people are, why? Everybody knows they are that's why there's only 9.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Jesus. Racist morons are entitled to assemble peacefully. This is exactly why violent counter-protesters should be arrested and charged to the limit of the law---the same goes for violent protesters. No matter what you think of people, they have rights.
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I think violence or the thirst for it was the entire reason there are thousands of people there. they all wanted to see a klansman get the crap beat out of them. The fact that it didn't show some respectable restraint counter-protesters part.

I'm suddenly reminded of the westboro Baptist Church. They seems to be king on protesting people's funerals. Where emotions were high. And they would say some flat out nasty stuff to people in a state of grief. I think it was a ploy to provoke an attack so they could sue people.

I think the klansman in the situation would be idiots to provoke an attack in that manner. But I imagine that's what the klan rallies used to be. To provoke people into violence to save see how violent everyone is.
 
JasperL said:
That sound about right, because the KKK really are the biggest losers, sad pathetic people. I can't imagine having an IQ at room temperature or better and joining that group in the modern era.

The problem is everyone knows that so the more dangerous guys are people like Richard Spencer and even David Duke these days. They spew the same white nationalist/white supremacist ideology, but are smarter about how they frame it. The Charlottesville rally is a prime example - I don't know if the KKK even showed up, but lots of white supremacist scum did in far bigger numbers than the KKK could ever draw.
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They were there. According to Wiki, the protesters included the "alt-right,[11] neo-Confederates,[12] neo-fascists,[13] white nationalists,[14] neo-Nazis,[15] Klansmen,[16] and various militias." You would think a gathering of all those groups from states all across the Eastern US would have drawn tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of protesters given the way the left and the media build up these groups, but the number of attendees ranged from dozens to 250. The rally in DC drew a whopping 24. The one in Arkansas a couple weeks ago had a massive turnout of 8. This one drew 9 which is huge. I mean thats at least two whole carloads of Klansmen. Maybe 3 if they arrived in pick-up trucks.
 
Serenity said:
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As long as no violence is involved by either party, surely this is a good thing, and something that should have bipartisan support.

That's the logical conclusion to make, anyway.
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Well I don't see it as a bad thing. I'm pretty sure that most of those protesters disagreed with the nine klansmen that were there but I imagine most of them there were there to see some action.

I remember a friend of mine telling me about one of these sorts of things in Austin Texas where a guy had acquired a clan costume and decided to make it out of a rainbow flag. I thought that was kind of funny. Apparently he was joking around and imitating the klinsmann in his garish gay pride costume.

We should encourage mockery if anything
 
Fletch said:
They were there. According to Wiki, the protesters included the "alt-right,[11] neo-Confederates,[12] neo-fascists,[13] white nationalists,[14] neo-Nazis,[15] Klansmen,[16] and various militias." You would think a gathering of all those groups from states all across the Eastern US would have drawn tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of protesters given the way the left and the media build up these groups, but the number of attendees ranged from dozens to 250. The rally in DC drew a whopping 24. The one in Arkansas a couple weeks ago had a massive turnout of 8. This one drew 9 which is huge. I mean thats at least two whole carloads of Klansmen. Maybe 3 if they arrived in pick-up trucks.
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Oh no it's not two carloads I'm sure someone has a van with no windows in it especially in that crowd.

You could fit 9 adults in the back of a windowless van, especially if all you have in there is a mattress and some hand cuffs.

In all seriousness though it seems odd to me that the demand for white supremacists far exceeds the supply.
 
JasperL said:
Yes of course VIOLENT protesters are breaking other laws (not violating someone's 1A rights, which they cannot do, because the 1A doesn't bind private citizens) and should be arrested. The point was the Klukkers First Amendment rights aren't being violated by counter protesters, because protesting is also protected speech, including protesting Klukkers.
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You were arguing they aren't allowed to assemble peacefully. Maybe you should clarify.
 
CLAX1911 said:
I think violence or the thirst for it was the entire reason there are thousands of people there. they all wanted to see a klansman get the crap beat out of them. The fact that it didn't show some respectable restraint counter-protesters part.

I'm suddenly reminded of the westboro Baptist Church. They seems to be king on protesting people's funerals. Where emotions were high. And they would say some flat out nasty stuff to people in a state of grief. I think it was a ploy to provoke an attack so they could sue people.

I think the klansman in the situation would be idiots to provoke an attack in that manner. But I imagine that's what the klan rallies used to be. To provoke people into violence to save see how violent everyone is.
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Its an excuse. No one provokes violence. You either do or you don't, the one responsible is who starts throwing punches or attacking in some way. That person is responsible for themselves or they shouldn't be there.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Its an excuse. No one provokes violence. You either do or you don't, the one responsible is who starts throwing punches or attacking in some way. That person is responsible for themselves or they shouldn't be there.
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If you couldn't incite violence then there wouldn't be a law against inciting violence. Provoked and insight are synonyms.
 
bomberfox said:
Fighting klansmen and nazis is patriotic you could say. Disrupting their meetings and making them afraid to come out is what stops them.
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Patriots? Antifa are patriots to you? You have a strange concept of patriotism.




Tell me, how does one distinguish the fascist buildings from the regular ones?
 
The KKK were originally formed by the Democrat party as their strong arm wing. The original Klan was very similar to a fraternal order, analogous to a hate based Rotary or Lions Club. Each local chapter of the Klan, was composed of the local shakers and movers of the Democrat party. There could be judges, lawyers and businessmen in any given local chapter.

The new Democrat Party Klan; strong arm, is the main stream media. They still set up lynch mobs and light fires; accusations, but they now do it in ways that is more suitable to pencil neck nerds, who think they are the movers and shakers. The Democrat party media Klan will be on trail, along wth the Democrat leadership, for their role in the failed coup.
 
rocket88 said:
I'm sorry that people are against your neo-Nazi buddies. Go salute swastikas in private and let those with a brain do the talking.
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Here we are. I knew it would come out. The pompous comments of the terminally bitchy.

9 assholes showed up and marched about chanting dumb-ass crap nobody really cares to hear.
In response, a whole bunch of ANTIFA fascists showed up to do battle against this scary mob of 9.
Had they ignored these 9 dicks, the event would have fizzled and discouraged white supremisists.
But nooo...now its in the news and serves to embolden these KKK jerks.

Tweenkies and ANTIFA...How To Be Your Own Worst Enemy.
 
wellwisher said:
The KKK were originally formed by the Democrat party as their strong arm wing. The original Klan was very similar to a fraternal order, analogous to a hate based Rotary or Lions Club. Each local chapter of the Klan, was composed of the local shakers and movers of the Democrat party. There could be judges, lawyers and businessmen in any given local chapter.

The new Democrat Party Klan; strong arm, is the main stream media. They still set up lynch mobs and light fires; accusations, but they now do it in ways that is more suitable to pencil neck nerds, who think they are the movers and shakers. The Democrat party media Klan will be on trail, along wth the Democrat leadership, for their role in the failed coup.
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Oh please...way to go completely off topic.
 
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