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Chinese fund backed by hunter biden invested in technology used to surveil muslims

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ON WEDNESDAY, Human Rights Watch released a troubling report about a phone application made by the Chinese government. The app provides law enforcement with easy, daily access to data detailing the religious activity, blood type, and even the amount of electricity used by ethnic minority Muslims living in the western province of Xinjiang.

The app relies heavily on facial recognition software supplied by Face++, a division of the Chinese startup Megvii, a relationship that sparked questions in the press for Megvii investors. One of the most prominent of these investors is Alibaba Group Holding, which was co-founded by Jack Ma, the wealthiest Chinese billionaire and an icon for the country’s image of entrepreneurship.

The flurry of media reports this week about Face++, Ma, and the role of the private sector in building China’s increasingly sprawling surveillance state, however, left out another prominent investor in the company: Hunter Biden.

Hunter Biden Invested in Chinese Surveillance Technology

Ukraine and China ... ordinarily I'd wonder why Uncle Joe's primary opponents haven't mentioned anything about it because of VP Joe's involvement.
But I saw an old story about Bernie teaching a bunch of very young kids about the glories to be found in the Soviet system so he has to be careful. As does Mayor Pete. They probably all do.

Twenty two candidates and counting ... and DeBlasio hasn't even announced yet ... imagine the potential in the debates.
They should break the action up into 3 rings.
 
Bidens are the status quo. That they personally profit from it is an insight into why they support it.

The status quo defines this country as a fascist oligarchy, a country with a government controlled by special interests. The Bidens are symbols of that status.
 
Hunter Biden Invested in Chinese Surveillance Technology

Ukraine and China ... ordinarily I'd wonder why Uncle Joe's primary opponents haven't mentioned anything about it because of VP Joe's involvement.
But I saw an old story about Bernie teaching a bunch of very young kids about the glories to be found in the Soviet system so he has to be careful. As does Mayor Pete. They probably all do.

Twenty two candidates and counting ... and DeBlasio hasn't even announced yet ... imagine the potential in the debates.
They should break the action up into 3 rings.

Did this crop up around 2010 at some point?
 
There needs to be some serious digging into Biden's relationship with China and how he used his office for profit.
 
Hunter Biden Invested in Chinese Surveillance Technology

Ukraine and China ... ordinarily I'd wonder why Uncle Joe's primary opponents haven't mentioned anything about it because of VP Joe's involvement.
But I saw an old story about Bernie teaching a bunch of very young kids about the glories to be found in the Soviet system so he has to be careful. As does Mayor Pete. They probably all do.

Twenty two candidates and counting ... and DeBlasio hasn't even announced yet ... imagine the potential in the debates.
They should break the action up into 3 rings.

It will come up in the debates, more of less depending on his ratings.
 
There needs to be some serious digging into Biden's relationship with China and how he used his office for profit.

His opponents will do the digging, no doubt. It is how the game is played.
 
Hunter Biden Invested in Chinese Surveillance Technology

Ukraine and China ... ordinarily I'd wonder why Uncle Joe's primary opponents haven't mentioned anything about it because of VP Joe's involvement.
But I saw an old story about Bernie teaching a bunch of very young kids about the glories to be found in the Soviet system so he has to be careful. As does Mayor Pete. They probably all do.

Twenty two candidates and counting ... and DeBlasio hasn't even announced yet ... imagine the potential in the debates.
They should break the action up into 3 rings.

LOL! I'm sure that Eric Prince would be interested in this.
 
It will come up in the debates, more of less depending on his ratings.

Also more or less depending on the moderators and their followup questions, assuming they even ask.
 
I'm hoping liberals will eventually figure out Joe Biden is basically a ****in Republican.
 
Hunter Biden Invested in Chinese Surveillance Technology

Ukraine and China ... ordinarily I'd wonder why Uncle Joe's primary opponents haven't mentioned anything about it because of VP Joe's involvement.
But I saw an old story about Bernie teaching a bunch of very young kids about the glories to be found in the Soviet system so he has to be careful. As does Mayor Pete. They probably all do.

Twenty two candidates and counting ... and DeBlasio hasn't even announced yet ... imagine the potential in the debates.
They should break the action up into 3 rings.

Campaign happily accepting help cheating in an election from Russia while only escaping guilt by not leaving evidence of an explicit agreement ---> OK

Son of Democrat candidate investing in a company that helps Chinese surveillance of muslims, something cheered on in this country under Bush (but only raged at when Obama expanded it) ---> NOT OK?

Honestly, at this point you should just be saying "he's a democrat! Boogers on him!" and leave it at that.




See, the funny but sad thing is this: Biden's primary opponents probably will use it because it probably does matter to potential Democrat voters. Meanwhile, those committed to attacking "the left" will use it despite the raging hypocrisy in doing so.

And thus, once more, the Democrats expose their balls by taking the high road and will likely thus be kicked right there.
 
It will come up in the debates, more of less depending on his ratings.

Dunno, my hope is that these things are aired out in the debates, though I'm definitely concerned about two things:

#1: Appeals for 'unity' and active encouragement by the DNC for candidates to play pattycakes in the debates results in exactly that.

#2: There are just too many damned people in the debates for these issues to get the airtime and focus they deserve.
 
Hunter Biden Invested in Chinese Surveillance Technology

Ukraine and China ... ordinarily I'd wonder why Uncle Joe's primary opponents haven't mentioned anything about it because of VP Joe's involvement.
But I saw an old story about Bernie teaching a bunch of very young kids about the glories to be found in the Soviet system so he has to be careful. As does Mayor Pete. They probably all do.

Twenty two candidates and counting ... and DeBlasio hasn't even announced yet ... imagine the potential in the debates.
They should break the action up into 3 rings.

Nice! If the implication here of some kinds of corruption were true and if further implication that corrupt Hunter Biden must imply corrupt Joe Biden is also true, maybe we could have Joe ask his Chinese friends for some dirt on Trump. That's how we do things today, right?
 
Hunter Biden helping the Chicoms persecute Muslims in China.
Joe Biden using influence as VPOTUS to diddle with a foreign gov't investigation of his son.

What else is in the Biden family's closet?
 
Campaign happily accepting help cheating in an election from Russia while only escaping guilt by not leaving evidence of an explicit agreement ---> OK

Son of Democrat candidate investing in a company that helps Chinese surveillance of muslims, something cheered on in this country under Bush (but only raged at when Obama expanded it) ---> NOT OK?

Honestly, at this point you should just be saying
"he's a democrat! Boogers on him!" and leave it at that.




See, the funny but sad thing is this: Biden's primary opponents probably will use it because it probably does matter to potential Democrat voters. Meanwhile, those committed to attacking "the left" will use it despite the raging hypocrisy in doing so.

And thus, once more, the Democrats expose their balls by taking the high road and will likely thus be kicked right there
.

"he's a democrat! Boogers on him!" ... but really, his problems are greater than him being a Democrat with boogers on him.
Like what he did with his office to keep Hunter from being investigated.
Naughty naughty former VP Uncle Joe.
 
Nice! If the implication here of some kinds of corruption were true and if further implication that corrupt Hunter Biden must imply corrupt Joe Biden is also true, maybe we could have Joe ask his Chinese friends for some dirt on Trump. That's how we do things today, right?

Yes, it would also be true.
 
Hunter Biden Invested in Chinese Surveillance Technology

Ukraine and China ... ordinarily I'd wonder why Uncle Joe's primary opponents haven't mentioned anything about it because of VP Joe's involvement.
But I saw an old story about Bernie teaching a bunch of very young kids about the glories to be found in the Soviet system so he has to be careful. As does Mayor Pete. They probably all do.

Twenty two candidates and counting ... and DeBlasio hasn't even announced yet ... imagine the potential in the debates.
They should break the action up into 3 rings.

Campaign happily accepting help cheating in an election from Russia while only escaping guilt by not leaving evidence of an explicit agreement ---> OK

Son of Democrat candidate investing in a company that helps Chinese surveillance of muslims, something cheered on in this country under Bush (but only raged at when Obama expanded it) ---> NOT OK?

Honestly, at this point you should just be saying "he's a democrat! Boogers on him!" and leave it at that.




See, the funny but sad thing is this: Biden's primary opponents probably will use it because it probably does matter to potential Democrat voters. Meanwhile, those committed to attacking "the left" will use it despite the raging hypocrisy in doing so.

And thus, once more, the Democrats expose their balls by taking the high road and will likely thus be kicked right there.

"he's a democrat! Boogers on him!" ... but really, his problems are greater than him being a Democrat with boogers on him.
Like what he did with his office to keep Hunter from being investigated.
Naughty naughty former VP Uncle Joe.

Your OP says nothing about Joe other than wondering out loud why his primary opponents haven't made the deal you want out of something his son did, right now. What you presented is all about Hunter.

Make your case then...


:shrug:
 
Your OP says nothing about Joe other than wondering out loud why his primary opponents haven't made the deal you want out of something his son did, right now. What you presented is all about Hunter.

Make your case then...


:shrug:

"Like what he did with his office to keep Hunter from being investigated" is about Joe because of Hunter.

"In short, the story is this: in the final year of the Obama presidency, Vice President Joe Biden “threatened to withhold $1 billion in United States loan guarantees if Ukraine’s leaders did not dismiss the country’s top prosecutor”—Viktor Shokin—“who had been accused of turning a blind eye to corruption in his own office and among the political elite.” The pressure campaign also just so happened to benefit Biden’s younger son, Hunter, who was then getting paid as much as $50,000 to sit on the board of Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company that was in Shokin’s sights. The question the Times raises, but does not answer, is: were Joe’s and Hunter’s overlapping interests in Ukraine coincidental, or corrupt?"
...
"Already, there’s another attack line looming on the horizon: in his latest book, Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends, Breitbart editor-at-large Peter Schweizer describes how a private-equity firm managed by Hunter Biden, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, negotiated a $1.5 billion investment deal with the state-owned Bank of China at the same time that his father, then the vice president, was conducting high-level diplomacy with Beijing. (On one of his trips, Hunter allegedly made use of Air Force Two.) Whether or not the Chinese hoped to curry favor with Hunter’s father, Trump allies are sure to make note of the issue, especially given Joe Biden’s controversial remark this week downplaying China as an economic competitor. (A spokesman for Hunter Biden disputed Schweizer’s claims to the Journal.)"

Hunter Biden’s Work in Ukraine Emerges as a Potential 2020 Scandal | Vanity Fair

There's more to it than that and there are other stories too but if you won't buy these then you won't buy any of the others.
Why? ... well that's another matter.
 
"Like what he did with his office to keep Hunter from being investigated" is about Joe because of Hunter.

"In short, the story is this: in the final year of the Obama presidency, Vice President Joe Biden “threatened to withhold $1 billion in United States loan guarantees if Ukraine’s leaders did not dismiss the country’s top prosecutor”—Viktor Shokin—“who had been accused of turning a blind eye to corruption in his own office and among the political elite.” The pressure campaign also just so happened to benefit Biden’s younger son, Hunter, who was then getting paid as much as $50,000 to sit on the board of Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company that was in Shokin’s sights. The question the Times raises, but does not answer, is: were Joe’s and Hunter’s overlapping interests in Ukraine coincidental, or corrupt?"
...
"Already, there’s another attack line looming on the horizon: in his latest book, Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends, Breitbart editor-at-large Peter Schweizer describes how a private-equity firm managed by Hunter Biden, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, negotiated a $1.5 billion investment deal with the state-owned Bank of China at the same time that his father, then the vice president, was conducting high-level diplomacy with Beijing. (On one of his trips, Hunter allegedly made use of Air Force Two.) Whether or not the Chinese hoped to curry favor with Hunter’s father, Trump allies are sure to make note of the issue, especially given Joe Biden’s controversial remark this week downplaying China as an economic competitor. (A spokesman for Hunter Biden disputed Schweizer’s claims to the Journal.)"

Hunter Biden’s Work in Ukraine Emerges as a Potential 2020 Scandal | Vanity Fair

There's more to it than that and there are other stories too but if you won't buy these then you won't buy any of the others.
Why? ... well that's another matter.

If one is still absolutely convinced Trump is guilty of collusion with Russia, then the evidence to the contrary doesn't matter. In fact, evidence in general probably doesn't matter. It's a weird thing...kinda like the Flat Earthers, but they're joking, and these people aren't.
 
If one is still absolutely convinced Trump is guilty of collusion with Russia, then the evidence to the contrary doesn't matter. In fact, evidence in general probably doesn't matter. It's a weird thing...kinda like the Flat Earthers, but they're joking, and these people aren't.

It's a corollary to the Proper Order Of Partisanship rule.
You won't find it written anywhere and you won't get anyone to admit they abide by it.
But this particular POOP corollary states that one mustn't draw a conclusion about an action taken without first learning the identity of the person who took the action.
Everything flows from that.
 
Your OP says nothing about Joe other than wondering out loud why his primary opponents haven't made the deal you want out of something his son did, right now. What you presented is all about Hunter.

Make your case then...


:shrug:

"Like what he did with his office to keep Hunter from being investigated" is about Joe because of Hunter.

"In short, the story is this: in the final year of the Obama presidency, Vice President Joe Biden “threatened to withhold $1 billion in United States loan guarantees if Ukraine’s leaders did not dismiss the country’s top prosecutor”—Viktor Shokin—“who had been accused of turning a blind eye to corruption in his own office and among the political elite.” The pressure campaign also just so happened to benefit Biden’s younger son, Hunter, who was then getting paid as much as $50,000 to sit on the board of Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company that was in Shokin’s sights. The question the Times raises, but does not answer, is: were Joe’s and Hunter’s overlapping interests in Ukraine coincidental, or corrupt?"
...
"Already, there’s another attack line looming on the horizon: in his latest book, Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends, Breitbart editor-at-large Peter Schweizer describes how a private-equity firm managed by Hunter Biden, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, negotiated a $1.5 billion investment deal with the state-owned Bank of China at the same time that his father, then the vice president, was conducting high-level diplomacy with Beijing. (On one of his trips, Hunter allegedly made use of Air Force Two.) Whether or not the Chinese hoped to curry favor with Hunter’s father, Trump allies are sure to make note of the issue, especially given Joe Biden’s controversial remark this week downplaying China as an economic competitor. (A spokesman for Hunter Biden disputed Schweizer’s claims to the Journal.)"

Hunter Biden’s Work in Ukraine Emerges as a Potential 2020 Scandal | Vanity Fair

There's more to it than that and there are other stories too but if you won't buy these then you won't buy any of the others.
Why? ... well that's another matter.

If one is still absolutely convinced Trump is guilty of collusion with Russia, then the evidence to the contrary doesn't matter. In fact, evidence in general probably doesn't matter. It's a weird thing...kinda like the Flat Earthers, but they're joking, and these people aren't.

It's a corollary to the Proper Order Of Partisanship rule.
You won't find it written anywhere and you won't get anyone to admit they abide by it.
But this particular POOP corollary states that one mustn't draw a conclusion about an action taken without first learning the identity of the person who took the action.
Everything flows from that.

You two need to purchase a mirror. One each, minimum.




Lying about what I said and trolling based on the lie, high-fiving each other in the process, certainly doesn't do your position any favors.

At any rate, if Biden Sr. did something, that's for people voting in the Democrat primaries to be worried about. People who relentlessly defend Trump have no standing to speak of any other politician's wrongdoing. Especially people so utterly blinded by partisanship that they actually think the Mueller report totally exonerated Trump.



It's strange, you seem to think this divide is new. It isn't. It was cemented when you all went off the rails in 2007 when it looked like a certain "socialist communist Kenyan muslim (who wants to destroy America)" looked like he had a shot...
 
If one is still absolutely convinced Trump is guilty of collusion with Russia, then the evidence to the contrary doesn't matter. In fact, evidence in general probably doesn't matter. It's a weird thing...kinda like the Flat Earthers, but they're joking, and these people aren't.


Being a smartass about your dishonesty, eh? Shouldn't you highlight where I said "I am absolutely convinced Trump is guilty of collusion with Russia"?

You can't, because I didn't.




Lies. Typical.
 
You two need to purchase a mirror. One each, minimum.




Lying about what I said and trolling based on the lie, high-fiving each other in the process, certainly doesn't do your position any favors.

At any rate, if Biden Sr. did something, that's for people voting in the Democrat primaries to be worried about. People who relentlessly defend Trump have no standing to speak of any other politician's wrongdoing. Especially people so utterly blinded by partisanship that they actually think the Mueller report totally exonerated Trump.



It's strange, you seem to think this divide is new. It isn't. It was cemented when you all went off the rails in 2007 when it looked like a certain "socialist communist Kenyan muslim (who wants to destroy America)" looked like he had a shot...

Ah, a mirror. You should try it yourself, and see if there's a reflection.

The truth has It's advocates, and you aren't among them. For a self-professed lawyer, you don't seem to have a basic understanding of presumed innocence. I'm sure you really do, but feigning ignorance isn't a good look for you in this case.

Biden has been on the political scene for a long time, and he has his baggage. We're just going to help him unpack a bit of it. And be certain that if Don Jr. Is an acceptable route for the left to attack Trump, then old Hunter is also an acceptable route for attacking Joe. Get used to it.
 
Being a smartass about your dishonesty, eh? Shouldn't you highlight where I said "I am absolutely convinced Trump is guilty of collusion with Russia"?

You can't, because I didn't.




Lies. Typical.

Nah. You're still bloviating about exoneration, which is a lie most on the left seem fond of promoting in the face of the truth. It's shameless, but that's how you leftists roll.
 
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