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John Dean: Mueller Report Shows ‘Clear Obstruction’

Tanngrisnir said:
Wait for the results of the 20 ongoing state and fed investigations of Twump to start producing results.

He said it himself: he's ****ed, and that's good news for the country.
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Sort of like how you told us to 'wait' for the Mueller report?
 
Oborosen said:
It showed no such thing as clear obstruction and this continued attempt at pretending to prove as much is just a waste.
How many threads now are there with some individual saying that the report points to clear obstruction. But they lack the actual ability to point out where such obstruction comes from and how it is actually viable for being called obstruction?

The democrats should just fight the man on policy alone. There are a few members in the DNC who can come up with some good ideas and that should be enough. If they can stop fighting one another for long enough, to become a cohesive group that is.
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Actually, it did show plenty of evidence of obrstruction, but on page 220, the report says that is up to Congress to make that determination. Mueller writes that he chose to do it this way so as not to upset the Constitutional balance of power. If you had actually read the report instead of blurbs from FOX News and tweets from Trump, you would have seen that.
 
dobieg said:
Sort of like how you told us to 'wait' for the Mueller report?
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Sort of like how you're pathologically avoiding the fact that the Mueller report makes plain the criminality of the man you worship as a god?
 
danarhea said:
Actually, it did show plenty of evidence of obrstruction, but on page 220, the report says that is up to Congress to make that determination. Mueller writes that he chose to do it this way so as not to upset the Constitutional balance of power. If you had actually read the report instead of blurbs from FOX News and tweets from Trump, you would have seen that.
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You ask the impossible of the incapable, I fear.
 
roughdraft274 said:
There gets to be a certain point where we should expect the president to at least exhibit fairly normal emotions. He was aggrivated or angry. That doesnt mean you just start ordering people to lie or orsering people to fire investigators. If this were anyone else no one woukd ever buy the "i was jjst so angry i threw the documents in the shredder out of frustration. I didnt mean to obstruct!"

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I completely agree!

I didn't vote for Trump because I knew back in the 80's that he was an arrogant charlatan and crook. It's in his family DNA.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Sort of like how you're pathologically avoiding the fact that the Mueller report makes plain the criminality of the man you worship as a god?
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How does it feel knowing your Hail Mary pass to get rid of Trump fell flat and even the top Democrat leadership has said they won't be pursuing impeachment?


Might want to put some ointment on that throbbing purple vein on your forehead 'cause it's only going to get worse.
 
Thoreau72 said:
I completely agree!

I didn't vote for Trump because I knew back in the 80's that he was an arrogant charlatan and crook. It's in his family DNA.
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And yet he is still 100 times better than anything Democrats have to offer because of their nonsensical platform.
 
Deuce said:
“This sucks, I hate this investigation!” Is anger.’

“Fire the guy investigating me!” Is not “understandable anger.” The president of the United States saying such a thing to a subordinate is an order.
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I cannot disagree. I'm being repetitious, but I've known for years that DJT was an arrogant crook.

But that doesn't mean the Russiagate narrative was true. It was pure political theater, as many people knew at the start. Trump is a crook, but the Dems started this bull**** story.
 
dobieg said:
How does it feel knowing your Hail Mary pass to get rid of Trump fell flat and even the top Democrat leadership has said they won't be pursuing impeachment?
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I wouldn't know, since:

A. The Mueller reports clearly lays out criminality on Trump's part.
B. The top dem leadershipt hasn't actually stated that.
Might want to put some ointment on that throbbing purple vein on your forehead 'cause it's only going to get worse.
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LOL! Here, let me help you with your pathological denial of reality in terms of your god.

✅ 20 ongoing federal and state investigations
✅ 14 referred Mueller prosecutions
✅ 2+ ongoing counterintelligence investigations
✅ 1 pending impeachable felony charge in NYC
✅ 1 pending impeachable felony before Congress
✅ 100+ Congressional subpoenas coming

Fun to see what pain this is causing you.
 
dobieg said:
And yet he is still 100 times better than anything Democrats have to offer because of their nonsensical platform.
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Current events and history will show you to be wrong that he is better.

Bernie would have been better, but he would likely have been assassinated by now had he won.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
I wouldn't know, since:

A. The Mueller reports clearly lays out criminality on Trump's part.
B. The top dem leadershipt hasn't actually stated that.

LOL! Here, let me help you with your pathological denial of reality in terms of your god.

✅ 20 ongoing federal and state investigations
✅ 14 referred Mueller prosecutions
✅ 2+ ongoing counterintelligence investigations
✅ 1 pending impeachable felony charge in NYC
✅ 1 pending impeachable felony before Congress
✅ 100+ Congressional subpoenas coming

Fun to see what pain this is causing you.
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*sniffle*

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Thursday that nothing he saw in special counsel Robert Mueller's report would make seeking to impeach President Trump a "worthwhile" effort "at this point."
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Hoyer: 'Impeachment not worthwhile' after seeing Mueller report | TheHill
 
Thoreau72 said:
Current events and history will show you to be wrong that he is better.

Bernie would have been better, but he would likely have been assassinated by now had he won.
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Exactly how does Bernie and his platform mesh with your designation as a Libertarian?
 
dobieg said:
Exactly how does Bernie and his platform mesh with your designation as a Libertarian?
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Before I was a Libertarian, I am a US citizen, romantically deluded into thinking that Lincoln was right and it's a government of the people, by the people and for the people.

I'm not married to Libertarianism, nor is it a religion for me.

Bernie was the only guy in the running trying to take the country away from the status quo. It was all academic anyway, thanks to the corruption endemic in the duopoly.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
LOL! He walked it back already.

Fun to see the fear in you, not keeping up with current events.

Run, Forrest! RUN!
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lol

Yeah, his base made such a stink that he was forced to change his tune so liberals could continue with their hope and dreams.


Take yourself as an example.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Before I was a Libertarian, I am a US citizen, romantically deluded into thinking that Lincoln was right and it's a government of the people, by the people and for the people.

I'm not married to Libertarianism, nor is it a religion for me.

Bernie was the only guy in the running trying to take the country away from the status quo. It was all academic anyway, thanks to the corruption endemic in the duopoly.
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Reasonable enough.
 
DarkWizard12 said:
This is why the report should have never been made public.

The report never drew conclusions on this. It merely outlined episodes that MIGHT be considered obstruction, and left it to partisans to decide for themselves.

Me walking across the street could be considered obstruction. It just depends on why i'm walking across the street.

You think partisans are going to be able to come to a reasonable conclusion themselves? Good luck with that.

This should have been left solely to congress, the house and senate both, to agree on. Not your keyboard laymen.
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Mostly the report just confirms what we saw with our own eyes. It was a brilliant move on Trump's part, although I doubt he planned it, he's just impulsive as hell.

Because it was all done in plain sight, and we are witnesses, thus we are, in effect, accomplices.

When everyone is guilty, no one is guilty.
 
dobieg said:
lol

Yeah, his base made such a stink that he was forced to change his tune so liberals could continue with their hope and dreams.


Take yourself as an example.
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LOL! So typical for a Marxist like you to try and pretend I'm a Dem.

Sorry you can't face the reality of Twump's criminality and the ongoing investigations.

Still, I do enjoy the pain it causes you and the spectacle of you running from them.
 
trixare4kids said:
Convicted felons, attorneys John Dean and Michael Cohen are their new heroes, their useful idiots.
Both of them are delusional, and both a couple of self-serving rats. Go figure, John Dean would be an expert on 'obstruction of justice'. :lol:
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Funny, coming from a poster who worships a lifelong con man as a god.

Did you attempt Trump University, by any chance?
 
j brown's body said:
Mostly the report just confirms what we saw with our own eyes. It was a brilliant move on Trump's part, although I doubt he planned it, he's just impulsive as hell.

Because it was all done in plain sight, and we are witnesses, thus we are, in effect, accomplices.

When everyone is guilty, no one is guilty.
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I don't think Trump even thought that far though. He's not sinister, just impulsive. The Mueller report is documented evidence that the campaign was exactly as chaotic we saw. All the stupidity we saw on the campaign trail, on top of this russian nonesense, all goes together with the conclusion that Trump really was too stupid to collude. Specifically, even in the meeting with the russians, Mueller concludes that Don jr did it unknowingly.

Listen, i like trump, because he governs conservatively, but he's not a smart guy. The 2016 election was pure chaos, and this proves it.
 
DarkWizard12 said:
I don't think Trump even thought that far though. He's not sinister, just impulsive. The Mueller report is documented evidence that the campaign was exactly as chaotic we saw. All the stupidity we saw on the campaign trail, on top of this russian nonesense, all goes together with the conclusion that Trump really was too stupid to collude. Specifically, even in the meeting with the russians, Mueller concludes that Don jr did it unknowingly.

Listen, i like trump, because he governs conservatively, but he's not a smart guy. The 2016 election was pure chaos, and this proves it.
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He's both. Clearly, he sees himself and his allies as above the law.

He's like a shooter who misses. Is it no harm, no foul? I hope not.

He's a curious kind of conservative.

Many of his supporters were very angry to learn through Woodward's book that his staff were undermining him. I doubt they're complaining about that today.
 
j brown's body said:
He's both. Clearly, he sees himself and his allies as above the law.

He's like a shooter who misses. Is it no harm, no foul? I hope not.

He's a curious kind of conservative.

Many of his supporters were very angry to learn through Woodward's book that his staff were undermining him. I doubt they're complaining about that today.
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It explains why the whitehouse staff were so nervous when the report was about to be released. Now, he knows that they all undermined him....for his benefit....but, it'll be interesting to see if he shakes up some positions.
 
trouble13 said:
All i am saying is that if democrats wsnt tl be believed they need to lay out in detail why think what they do for everyone to understand their position.
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I agree. The democrats have their work cut out for themselves. They are trying to convince the blind, obstinate right to believe what they have already chosen not to. The president's supporters have already taken credulity to new heights, already celebrating their victory which came in the form of Barr's shameful, sycophantic summary. He put lipstick on the pig and the repubs are lining up, not just to mouth kiss it, but to declare the pig to actually be a super model. Pigs don't wear lipstick, they claim, therefore the liberal claims are just slander. Innocence, so it seems, has become a bought and paid for conclusion with "justice" being just another commodity for the rich and powerful to trade in.

As you may have guessed, I have no faith that the democrats will convince the right of anything about Trump. There is enough existing evidence of his corruption and lack of personal character and ill-fitness for office that to belabor that narrative is precious time wasted. The left has a poorly developed sense of futility and have underestimated the power of dumb. Trump has not. He wins.
 
danarhea said:
What surprises me is that this story was online at Breitbart. Not only that, Breitbart didn't call Dean a poopy head. LOL.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/04/18/john-dean-mueller-report-shows-clear-obstruction/
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The sad truth facing America is that so many are jumping on the bandwagon to impeach Trump for obstructing an investigation which has been proven to have been a total sham built entirely on a democrat hoax initiated and carried out for the purpose of helping Hillary illegally capture the win in the 20126 election.
 
D_NATURED said:
I agree. The democrats have their work cut out for themselves. They are trying to convince the blind, obstinate right to believe what they have already chosen not to. The president's supporters have already taken credulity to new heights, already celebrating their victory which came in the form of Barr's shameful, sycophantic summary. He put lipstick on the pig and the repubs are lining up, not just to mouth kiss it, but to declare the pig to actually be a super model. Pigs don't wear lipstick, they claim, therefore the liberal claims are just slander. Innocence, so it seems, has become a bought and paid for conclusion with "justice" being just another commodity for the rich and powerful to trade in.

As you may have guessed, I have no faith that the democrats will convince the right of anything about Trump. There is enough existing evidence of his corruption and lack of personal character and ill-fitness for office that to belabor that narrative is precious time wasted. The left has a poorly developed sense of futility and have underestimated the power of dumb. Trump has not. He wins.
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The Russia!! Russia!! Russia!! devoted democrat conspiracy theorists simply still cannot believe the obvious fact which came out of the investigation that Mueller found no evidence of collusion between Trump and the Russians. Desperate, they are determined to overturn Mueller's findings by picking apart and twisting his own report to do so. What a bunch of crooked seditious political hacks.
 
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