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RNC Chair: Schiff Should Resign

RNC Chair: Schiff Should Resign

RNC Chair: Schiff Should Resign | Newsmax.com

QUOTE: Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel said Thursday that House Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff, D-Calif., should resign for his comments about collusion. “For TWO YEARS, Adam Schiff has been pushing the phony Trump-Russia collusion hoax. He’s been lying to the American people from a position of authority on the House Intelligence Committee,” McDaniel tweeted before special counsel Robert Mueller’s report was released. “There was NO collusion and NO obstruction. Schiff should resign.”

ME: Of course he should resign. He lied for two years.

He did NOT lie for 2 years or even 2 minutes. Just because their wasn’t PROSECUTABLE conspiracydoesn’t mean their wasn’t ANY.

Your posts make it obvious you’re James972, didn’t you lie trying to present yourself as a newly minted poster?
 
There is absolutely no reason for Rep Adam Schiff to resign from office, NONE AT ALL.

Really, he went around for over 2 yrs bragging he had proof of evidence that Trump colluded with the Russian. Yet he never has shown what he claims is collusion. If Scumbag Schiff had this proof he surly would show Mueller his proof. But then again he probably didn't so that he could keep under wraps his false lies and keep on trying to destroy Trump on his false claims. Christ you libs through the book at Trump with all your false claims and Mueller stomped on all your claims as false. But Pencil Neck keeps on with his false claims that have been totally rejected.
 
RNC Chair: Schiff Should Resign

RNC Chair: Schiff Should Resign | Newsmax.com

QUOTE: Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel said Thursday that House Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff, D-Calif., should resign for his comments about collusion. “For TWO YEARS, Adam Schiff has been pushing the phony Trump-Russia collusion hoax. He’s been lying to the American people from a position of authority on the House Intelligence Committee,” McDaniel tweeted before special counsel Robert Mueller’s report was released. “There was NO collusion and NO obstruction. Schiff should resign.”

ME: Of course he should resign. He lied for two years.

What was phony about it? Collusion was demonstrated, just not up to the level to sustain an criminal conspiracy charge?

Why don't you ever know what you're talking about?
 
He did NOT lie for 2 years or even 2 minutes. Just because their wasn’t PROSECUTABLE conspiracydoesn’t mean their wasn’t ANY.

Your posts make it obvious you’re James972, didn’t you lie trying to present yourself as a newly minted poster?

Wait a minute, Schiff said "I have proof of evidence Trump colluded with the Russian" Well if he has proof of collusion, why is Trump not indicted of conspiracy. Because Scumbag Schiff does not have any proof of evidence. Period. He just lies everyday.
 
Really, he went around for over 2 yrs bragging he had proof of evidence that Trump colluded with the Russian.

Do you have any citations of that. Not that there is any cause for him to resign in that.

Yet he never has shown what he claims is collusion.

What mandate is there he show what he has? Not that there is any cause for him to resign in that.

If Scumbag Schiff had this proof he surly would show Mueller his proof.

Why? He had no mandate to show Mueller anything he might consider evidence of Trump collusion with Russia. Even so, that is not cause for him to resign.

But then again he probably didn't so that he could keep under wraps his false lies and keep on trying to destroy Trump on his false claims.

Okie Dokie! Once again, there is no cause for him to resign in that.

Christ you libs through the book at Trump with all your false claims and Mueller stomped on all your claims as false.

I am a Liberal but I threw no "book at Trump" with any "false claims" nor has "mueller stomped" on any false claims of mine since I made none. From the get go I said Mueller would not find any collusion by Donald Trump with any Russian agents. I am on record with that.

But that being said, that is not cause for him to resign.

But Pencil Neck keeps on with his false claims that have been totally rejected.

Much like 3 decades of "Lock Her Up" rhetoric that I have listened to about "criminal Hillary" with nothing compelling ever being presented that would justify anyone to actually do that.

One more time.

You have presented nothing, I repeat, (for emphasis) NOTHING to give cause for Rep. Adam Schiff to resign from his duly elected position in the House of Representatives.

Nothing!

Still,
 
What SPECIFIC LIES has Rep. Adam Schiff told the American people that make him need to resign his duly elected office?

I would like to know this as well.
 
RNC Chair: Schiff Should Resign

RNC Chair: Schiff Should Resign | Newsmax.com

QUOTE: Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel said Thursday that House Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff, D-Calif., should resign for his comments about collusion. “For TWO YEARS, Adam Schiff has been pushing the phony Trump-Russia collusion hoax. He’s been lying to the American people from a position of authority on the House Intelligence Committee,” McDaniel tweeted before special counsel Robert Mueller’s report was released. “There was NO collusion and NO obstruction. Schiff should resign.”

ME: Of course he should resign. He lied for two years.
Like several other Dems, Schiff should not be allowed to hold his position. Gang of 8? That's preposterous and actually dangerous. Schiff is a feckless, sniveling, self-serving left-wing operative who constantly lies and leaks classified information.
 
He is a lying sack of filth. But let's say, hypothetically, that he did not lie. Still, to be the head of the House Intelligence Committee and be so wronng for so long, that alone should disqualify him.

But here is the thing: How is it that simple folk like me knew the truth all along and he did not. Let us use some common sense: There is not the slightest reason for Trump to even consider colluding with Russians. He is a billionaire, who reportedly did not even want to win at first. There was not the slightest incentive for him to collude with Russians. He is not wired that way.

I suggest that you guys listen to this:



Trump reportedly didn't really want to win, was not favored to win, was routinely scoffed at and considered a joke and polled behind Hillary until the bitter end. But hey, somehow he looked like the clear winner to Russia? Wut?
And how much does Russia suck at influencing our election when Hillary got 3 million more votes, as the Dems love to remind us?
 
There is absolutely no reason for Rep Adam Schiff to resign from office, NONE AT ALL.

RNC Chair needs to get fellow Republicans, those in Congress, to find their spines or grow some cajones, if figuratively, and quit letting the worst freaking president ever have political cover.

Actually he does.
he said he has a slew of evidence of collusion yet the mueller report says there was no collusion.
awwww.

so you believe in convicting innocent people simply because you don't like them.
good thing you are not in charge of our government or our justice system.
 
Really, he went around for over 2 yrs bragging he had proof of evidence that Trump colluded with the Russian. Yet he never has shown what he claims is collusion. If Scumbag Schiff had this proof he surly would show Mueller his proof. But then again he probably didn't so that he could keep under wraps his false lies and keep on trying to destroy Trump on his false claims. Christ you libs through the book at Trump with all your false claims and Mueller stomped on all your claims as false. But Pencil Neck keeps on with his false claims that have been totally rejected.

The Hate-Trump Coalition has had 2 years, unlimited resources, a SC who has a distinct dislike of Trump, an FBI who loathes him and adores Hillary, the city of Washington D.C. full of Democrats who want Trump gone and a media acting in lockstep to carry out the mission of the Democrat party.
And they still couldn't make it stick.

Schiff should be impeached for abuse of his office, leaking and lying.
 
Wait a minute, Schiff said "I have proof of evidence Trump colluded with the Russian" Well if he has proof of collusion, why is Trump not indicted of conspiracy. Because Scumbag Schiff does not have any proof of evidence. Period. He just lies everyday.

He just lies everyday.

That’s funny; are you talking about tRump?
 
Actually he does.
he said he has a slew of evidence of collusion yet the mueller report says there was no collusion.
awwww.

so you believe in convicting innocent people simply because you don't like them.
good thing you are not in charge of our government or our justice system.

Please do indicate, show, where I have expressed any desire at all of "convicting innocent people simply because" I "don't like them" do that then you may have a point to make with me.

I look forward to your findings!

Hey, even though you have happily falsely accused me, you showed us nothing that is cause for Rep. Adam Schiff to resign the position he was duly elected to.

GOD love ya!
 
The big lie is that Trump is the liar. He is not.

The party of Infanticide, Socialism, and Sexual Perversion - Democrats - Is the Father of Lies

LOL, trump never stops lying, sadly you are so enamored by your golden boy you are, and will remain, blind to Reality. Meh...
 
No! He should not resign. I want to see his evidence of Collusion. He needs to show us all......immediately. We have heard for a very long time how he has it, so its time to show us the evidence HE was able to find, that Mueller was unable to locate.

No reason for Schiff to resign, he loves his job & to be a successful congressman lying is almost a prerequisite to eminence,
vigorous lying like Schiff indulges in offers him the valuable cable air time one like Schiff craves.

Schiff was probably upset that Avenatti took his place as the CNN's go to guy!
Although CNN interviewed Schiff a total of 17 times in January and February
before the Daniels-Avenatti obsession heated up, CNN interviewed the
California Democrat on air just 10 times during Avenatti’s 59.

Now that Avenatti has been exposed & indicted Schiff is in the catbird seat again
on CNN. As peculiar as his views are to me they are likely demanded by CNN
viewers therefore any attempt to suggest he resign is futile.
 
Please do indicate, show, where I have expressed any desire at all of "convicting innocent people simply because" I "don't like them" do that then you may have a point to make with me.

I look forward to your findings!

Hey, even though you have happily falsely accused me, you showed us nothing that is cause for Rep. Adam Schiff to resign the position he was duly elected to.

GOD love ya!

RNC Chair needs to get fellow Republicans, those in Congress, to find their spines or grow some cajones, if figuratively, and quit letting the worst freaking president ever have political cover.

is what you said.

IE you agree with the house impeaching trump and the senate convicting him evidently.
if you met something else then you should have said so.
 
She needs to shut her mouth. There’s enough in this report to nail Trump to the cross if Congress is so inclined.

Interesting you claim that considering the following:

Mueller "employed 19 lawyers who were assisted by a team of approximately 40 FBI agents, intelligence analysts, forensic accountants, and other professional staff. The Special Counsel issued more than 2,800 subpoenas, executed nearly 500 search warrants, obtained more than 230 orders for communication records, issued almost 50 orders authorizing use of pen registers, made 13 requests to foreign governments for evidence, and interviewed approximately 500 witnesses"


And didn't find enough evidence to "conclude that the President committed a crime..."
 
Interesting you claim that considering the following:

Mueller "employed 19 lawyers who were assisted by a team of approximately 40 FBI agents, intelligence analysts, forensic accountants, and other professional staff. The Special Counsel issued more than 2,800 subpoenas, executed nearly 500 search warrants, obtained more than 230 orders for communication records, issued almost 50 orders authorizing use of pen registers, made 13 requests to foreign governments for evidence, and interviewed approximately 500 witnesses"


And didn't find enough evidence to "conclude that the President committed a crime..."

That isn’t at all what Mueller said. What he said is this:

“Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgement, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President’s conduct. The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we were making a traditional prosecutorial judgement. At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgement. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President commited a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”
 
That isn’t at all what Mueller said. What he said is this:

“Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgement, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President’s conduct. The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we were making a traditional prosecutorial judgement. At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgement. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President commited a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

Let me put in more plain words so you might understand.

First, I didn't suggest Muller made the statement I posted. That statement was directly from Barr's original letter released at the conclusion of Mueller's investigation. I included it to shed light on the extensive effort that was put forth by Mueller and the brigade of people he commanded over the period of the investigation.

Second, you seem to be overlooking one critical and significantly important part of the conclusion you lifted from the Mueller report.

It goes like this: "...this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime..."
 
RNC Chair: Schiff Should Resign

RNC Chair: Schiff Should Resign | Newsmax.com

QUOTE: Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel said Thursday that House Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff, D-Calif., should resign for his comments about collusion. “For TWO YEARS, Adam Schiff has been pushing the phony Trump-Russia collusion hoax. He’s been lying to the American people from a position of authority on the House Intelligence Committee,” McDaniel tweeted before special counsel Robert Mueller’s report was released. “There was NO collusion and NO obstruction. Schiff should resign.”

ME: Of course he should resign. He lied for two years.

Wait, the Republicans don't like a Democrat? OMG, STOP THE PRESSES!
 
Let me put in more plain words so you might understand.

First, I didn't suggest Muller made the statement I posted. That statement was directly from Barr's original letter released at the conclusion of Mueller's investigation. I included it to shed light on the extensive effort that was put forth by Mueller and the brigade of people he commanded over the period of the investigation.

Second, you seem to be overlooking one critical and significantly important part of the conclusion you lifted from the Mueller report.

It goes like this: "...this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime..."

And the reason for that goes like this “Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgement..” So you should focus on the fact that if Murller could have exonerated the President he would have, but said that was not possible based on the evidence.
 
And the reason for that goes like this “Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgement..” So you should focus on the fact that if Murller could have exonerated the President he would have, but said that was not possible based on the evidence.

Well you touched on an important admission on the part of Mueller. "...we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment".

If they had, what would their conclusion have looked like?


Well, if they had determined to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, they would have conclude there was insufficient evidence to prove the President intended to obstruct the investigation. Remember, they said "presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved".

They said if there was sufficient evidence, they would have stated as much.
 
Well you touched on an important admission on the part of Mueller. "...we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment".

If they had, what would their conclusion have looked like?


Well, if they had determined to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, they would have conclude there was insufficient evidence to prove the President intended to obstruct the investigation. Remember, they said "presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved".

They said if there was sufficient evidence, they would have stated as much.

I am certain Mueller will be asked that question in his congressional testimony. We can let him say what he would do with the evidence if he had the authority to indict Trump. They said if they could exonerate the President they would have, but the evidence doesn’t allow it.
 
No reason for Schiff to resign, he loves his job & to be a successful congressman lying is almost a prerequisite to eminence,
vigorous lying like Schiff indulges in offers him the valuable cable air time one like Schiff craves.

Schiff was probably upset that Avenatti took his place as the CNN's go to guy!
Although CNN interviewed Schiff a total of 17 times in January and February
before the Daniels-Avenatti obsession heated up, CNN interviewed the
California Democrat on air just 10 times during Avenatti’s 59.

Now that Avenatti has been exposed & indicted Schiff is in the catbird seat again
on CNN. As peculiar as his views are to me they are likely demanded by CNN
viewers therefore any attempt to suggest he resign is futile.

Schiff is so secure in the 28th Cal district that's why he structs around like he does.
His district will never vote Republican again, the only way Schiff gets defeated would be
if the demographics change to the extent that they did in Joe Crowleys district which
became solidly minority & Crowley like Schiff championed these minorities to immigrate.
Crowley a 10 term congressman lost to OAC . If Schiff's district changes demographically
like the NY district did, only then will Schiff be in trouble, & let's face it his new challenger
may be worse. After all as bad as Crowley was AOC is dangerous. For guys like schiff & Crowley
if that happens it would be like the chickens coming home to roost. Crowley clamored for immigration,
without realizing that would facilitate his own demise.

2018 results
Adam Schiff 196,662 78.4%
Johnny Nalbandian 54,272 21.6
 
I am certain Mueller will be asked that question in his congressional testimony. We can let him say what he would do with the evidence if he had the authority to indict Trump. They said if they could exonerate the President they would have, but the evidence doesn’t allow it.

I recognize you are echoing the spin the left's MSM talking heads are using, but Mueller stated in his own words what he would have done had the evidence supported a finding the President conspired to obstruct.

It seems remarkable those words in Mueller's conclusion don't seem to exist for people who come to the issue with bias and pre-conclusions.
 
RNC Chair: Schiff Should Resign

RNC Chair: Schiff Should Resign | Newsmax.com

QUOTE: Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel said Thursday that House Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff, D-Calif., should resign for his comments about collusion. “For TWO YEARS, Adam Schiff has been pushing the phony Trump-Russia collusion hoax. He’s been lying to the American people from a position of authority on the House Intelligence Committee,” McDaniel tweeted before special counsel Robert Mueller’s report was released. “There was NO collusion and NO obstruction. Schiff should resign.”

ME: Of course he should resign. He lied for two years.

So has Trump. He does not do much else but lie. So no, Schiff should not resign. He has committed nothing that warrant him leaving his post.
 
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