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[W: 94] Right Wing Blames Notre Dame Fire On Obama, Omar, And Muslims Without Any Proof

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rocket88 said:
Remind me again which party is anti-union? If you think Trump cares about the working class, you are deluding yourself.
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The reason to bring in massive numbers of immigrants has ALWAYS been for the purpose of giving blue collar wages as low as possible.

The mere existence of a trade union does not mean that union protects employees nor can a union negotiate great wages when there are 1,000,000 people willing to be scabs if there is a strike.

Inherently being pro mass-immigration is being anti-union. Historically among trade unions some of the biggest and most violent strikes had mass numbers of non-union immigrant scabs willing to cross the picket line.
 
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I heard it was Buttigeig lighting farts in the nave while swilling communion wine.
 
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Taylor said:
"OMG the right is spreading hoaxes! My favorite extreme left-wing site known for publishing conspiracy theories and fake news told me so!!"

"Woke Sloth" Media Bias: Extreme

Woke Sloth - Media Bias/Fact Check
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If you read the article, which obviously you didn't, Tweets are pictured right there. Unless you want to put forth that the left blamed Michele Obama.
 
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apdst said:
Are you ok with the French government ruling out arson before the investigation starts?
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That surprised me as well. I've been on many fires, 4 churches that I can remember, and unless there was an eye wittiness, it's near impossible to know the cause that quick. Arson on the other hand, is VERY hard to prove. Either way, when interviewed that soon, the answer is usually "under investigation". Even with a wittiness, there still is an investigation. Maybe the French do it differently.
 
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RetiredUSN said:
You go to someone's stupid blog and associate it with mainstream Conservatives?

How many hits does this blog get?

You are the joke in this one.
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Are you triggered? Do you need a safe space where nobody criticizes conservative nut jobs? Stick to the comments at foxnews.com then.
 
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joko104 said:
There is plenty of basis to speculate it was arson. Numerous churches have been burned by arson in the last few months in France and currently France is undergoing so many riots it was necessary to deploy the French military - for which arson is a tactic used by rioters - whether it is atheist socialist/communist leftwingers or radical theocratic anti-secular Muslims - both of which are vehemently anti-Catholic Church. Or it could have been any other arsonist who hates the Catholic Church, is an anarchist, or just likes to start fires.

Or it could have been a tourist or employee who snuck off to smoke a cigarette and tossed it while still lit.

Or it could be caused by an electrical issue. Or it could have been caused by ___________________.

What we KNOW is that the immediately claim by the French government that it was caused by a workman on the restoration was 100% false since no workers were there that day.

In my opinion, it was most likely arson. However, that does not mean any organized group did it. I think the fire likely was started deliberately by A person.
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LOL! Says the poster who doesn't believe we landed on the moon.

Too funny.
 
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joko104 said:
Then why did you post that?
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Because it is in the original post which you responded to. You compared the left blaming construction workers for the fire to the right blaming Omar and Obama for the fire. This is stupid.
 
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875 churches in France were vandalized over the last year alone.
Thugs set fire to churches and smear poo on walls amid warnings France'''s Christian heritage is under attack from '''militant secularism'''

But we read progressives - who generally hate and attack the Catholic Church - declaring there is no chance that Notre Dame is #876 because that is PC required and no other reason. Nor dare speculation it is the anarchists who have been setting fires and burning cars all around Paris - as have Muslims in Paris protests. But progressives claim certainly not even ONE of those would DARE EVEN THINK of burning the largest Catholic cathedral -as they 100% all agreed to only vandalizing, burning and destroying smaller cathedrals.

Just last week two Muslims were arrested with tear gas canisters parking at the cathedral. Social media is full of Muslims cheering the fire. Anarchists, socialists and communists in France are cheering the fire too.

The government of France currently is demolishing 2800 ancient Catholic cathedrals all across France. It's not like the French government REALLY cares about the Catholic churches and cathedrals they seized 100 years ago. That's why there is no sprinkler system nor was their any watchmen.

Less than 5% of French now are Catholics. The Catholic church is nearly everyone's favorite target in France.

Rebuilding Notre Dame will ONLY be because it is a tourist trap, if it even happens. Rebuilding that cathedral is trying to revive a dead horse and it permanently will be a target, just like it was known if the World Trade Center buildings were rebuilt they would come under attack again.
 
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danarhea said:
IBEW here in Texas embraces immigrants, and quite a few dreamers are members. You were saying?
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So you say ICE needs to visit the Union meeting?
 
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SMTA said:
Yet another painfully stupid post.
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We can only assume that you are referencing the OP.
 
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joko104 said:
There is plenty of basis to speculate it was arson. Numerous churches have been burned by arson in the last few months in France and currently France is undergoing so many riots it was necessary to deploy the French military - for which arson is a tactic used by rioters - whether it is atheist socialist/communist leftwingers or radical theocratic anti-secular Muslims - both of which are vehemently anti-Catholic Church. Or it could have been any other arsonist who hates the Catholic Church, is an anarchist, or just likes to start fires.

Or it could have been a tourist or employee who snuck off to smoke a cigarette and tossed it while still lit.

Or it could be caused by an electrical issue. Or it could have been caused by ___________________.

What we KNOW is that the immediately claim by the French government that it was caused by a workman on the restoration was 100% false since no workers were there that day.

In my opinion, it was most likely arson. However, that does not mean any organized group did it. I think the fire likely was started deliberately by A person.
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It's an ignorant posting triple threat. .
In once thread.
Fascinating.
 
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smallvoice said:
We can only assume that you are referencing the OP.
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Nope. Read much?
 
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SMTA said:
Nope. Read much?
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Read them all. That was the ONLY logical choice.
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
LOL! Says the poster who doesn't believe we landed on the moon.

Too funny.
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^ Why do you believe we didn't land on the moon?
 
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rocket88 said:
Right-Wing Media Spreads Baseless Notre Dame Hoaxes

You mean they didn't blame AOC? I guess we are making baby steps forward.
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And the Leftists blamed Trump for New Zealand and Pittsburgh.

But it's good to see the Leftists following along with those far-right losers. No one on the Right does.
 
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RetiredUSN said:
You go to someone's stupid blog and associate it with mainstream Conservatives?

How many hits does this blog get?

You are the joke in this one.
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Going to some arcane blog that's little well known and even less cared about is somehow evidence that everyone on the Right shares the same belief:roll:
 
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smallvoice said:
Read them all. That was the ONLY logical choice.
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Wrong again.
Let me know when you understand the concept of quoting and reference.
 
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joko104 said:
875 churches in France were vandalized over the last year alone.
Thugs set fire to churches and smear poo on walls amid warnings France'''s Christian heritage is under attack from '''militant secularism'''

But we read progressives - who generally hate and attack the Catholic Church - declaring there is no chance that Notre Dame is #876 because that is PC required and no other reason. Nor dare speculation it is the anarchists who have been setting fires and burning cars all around Paris - as have Muslims in Paris protests. But progressives claim certainly not even ONE of those would DARE EVEN THINK of burning the largest Catholic cathedral -as they 100% all agreed to only vandalizing, burning and destroying smaller cathedrals.

Just last week two Muslims were arrested with tear gas canisters parking at the cathedral. Social media is full of Muslims cheering the fire. Anarchists, socialists and communists in France are cheering the fire too.

The government of France currently is demolishing 2800 ancient Catholic cathedrals all across France. It's not like the French government REALLY cares about the Catholic churches and cathedrals they seized 100 years ago. That's why there is no sprinkler system nor was their any watchmen.

Less than 5% of French now are Catholics. The Catholic church is nearly everyone's favorite target in France.

Rebuilding Notre Dame will ONLY be because it is a tourist trap, if it even happens. Rebuilding that cathedral is trying to revive a dead horse and it permanently will be a target, just like it was known if the World Trade Center buildings were rebuilt they would come under attack again.
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It astounds me that people are literally scared to death to put the Notre Dame fire into context with the enormous spate of church attacks, defacing and fires which are at epidemic levels in France right now. If a mosque in France burned suddenly, speculation about arson would run rampant and people would be astounded at the notion that officials were declaring the mosque fire and accident even as it continued to burn.
 
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joko104 said:
^ Why do you believe we didn't land on the moon?
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This is not a rational response. Do you often attempt to turn the tables like this in order to avoid addressing a direct question or accusation?
 
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SMTA said:
Wrong again.
Let me know when you understand the concept of quoting and reference.
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I got it. My position stands.
 
Re: Right Wing Blames Notre Dame Fire On Obama, Omar, And Muslims Without Any Proof

joko104 said:
There is plenty of basis to speculate it was arson. Numerous churches have been burned by arson in the last few months in France and currently France is undergoing so many riots it was necessary to deploy the French military - for which arson is a tactic used by rioters - whether it is atheist socialist/communist leftwingers or radical theocratic anti-secular Muslims - both of which are vehemently anti-Catholic Church. Or it could have been any other arsonist who hates the Catholic Church, is an anarchist, or just likes to start fires.

Or it could have been a tourist or employee who snuck off to smoke a cigarette and tossed it while still lit.

Or it could be caused by an electrical issue. Or it could have been caused by ___________________.

What we KNOW is that the immediately claim by the French government that it was caused by a workman on the restoration was 100% false since no workers were there that day.

In my opinion, it was most likely arson. However, that does not mean any organized group did it. I think the fire likely was started deliberately by A person.
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The problem with the deliberately set is that the fire started and was confined to the roof. I don't think an arsonist would have climbed a scaffold carrying a can of gas and a match when it would have been easier to roll the gas can into the church and set it afire, and the results would have been better.
 
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Cardinal said:
I.e. "Lack of evidence that it was terrorists is evidence that it was terrorists."
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Your reading comprehension skills are failing you.

He never said it was terrorists, never said it was his opinion it was terrorists, or that there was any evidence suggesting it was terrorists. Since when is speculation by someone who makes there living giving their opinion improper?
 
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