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Trump Railed At Illegal Immigration But Now Owns The Worst Numbers In A Decade

mycroft said:
sorry...but no. It's not trump's policies driving the surge. It's the opposition from congress driving the surge.

Migrants are worried that opposition won't last.
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lol...
 
jmotivator said:
Nope. Trump didn't invite them to flood across the border, the Democrats did. The Democrats are their heads so far up their asses that they NY state just approved funding for illegal alien children to attend college while denying funding to Gold Star families. Democrats are poison.
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Can you provide a link to substantiate what you're talking about that isn't Breitbart, Washington Examiner, or Faux Noose?
 
Chomsky said:
Actually, it's all bull****. Theatre, because he can't get anything done, and doesn't know how to get anything done; theatre for the political masses is what it is.

Whether it be Immigration, North Korea, China, NAFTA, etc. Hyperbolic theatric noise, followed by failure, disgrace, and public embarrassment for America.
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You're just jealous cause our president has all those bromances going on and he's saving america. He has managed to give the wealthy and corporate america the tax relief they so sorely needed. Did we win the trade war and is infrastructure week over?
 
Taylor said:
A don't know that any of his draconian gun control policies were implemented, but fear of them sure did drive a lot of gun sales.

He owns the highest number of gun sales of any president in history, correct?
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So you just contradicted your own claim. No policies implemented. Right-wing gun nuts are motivated only by fear which is what created the run on guns and ammo.
 
lurchadams said:
Can you provide a link to substantiate what you're talking about that isn't Breitbart, Washington Examiner, or Faux Noose?
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LOL. Soooo.. what you are saying is that you want me limited to the sources that wouldnt report on it in the first place? Nice echo chamber you got there, lurchadams.

Are you saying that because you think it didn't actually happen? Or that it isn't worth considering until MoveOn.org writes something about it?
 
lurchadams said:
Wrong again, my friend. Read the OP. These are facts. I know you wish it to be different but that won't change the actual facts.
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No, it's actually an opinion piece, not facts, "my friend". The idiotic opinion of the OP is that telling people not to come into the country means you are at fault for people coming into the country... it's utter nonsense.
 
jmotivator said:
LOL. Soooo.. what you are saying is that you want me limited to the sources that wouldnt report on it in the first place? Nice echo chamber you got there, lurchadams.

Are you saying that because you think it didn't actually happen? Or that it isn't worth considering until MoveOn.org writes something about it?
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Alright, fine. Give me one of your right-wing links and I'll fact-check it.
 
jmotivator said:
No, it's actually an opinion piece, not facts, "my friend". The idiotic opinion of the OP is that telling people not to come into the country means you are at fault for people coming into the country... it's utter nonsense.
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An opinion piece that contains facts and opinions of republicant officials, my friend.

Yet last month, more than two years into his term, illegal border crossings jumped to more than 92,000 ― the highest number for March since 2007, when George W. Bush was president. (Nearly 11,000 additional unauthorized migrants were allowed into the country to make humanitarian claims like asylum.) Illegal immigration, which fell during Trump’s first months in office, has been rising again.

One former senior Trump White House official said on condition of anonymity that failing to get a handle on illegal border crossings would be a “big time” problem come next year’s reelection campaign, given how many times Trump has pounded both his Republican and Democratic opponents on the issue.

“I think he has to make steps to fix the problem, not just fire folks,” said a top Republican adviser close to the White House, also on the condition of anonymity, about the recent departure of several top officials at the Department of Homeland Security, including Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen.
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I'm sorry the facts don't align with your predetermined narrative.
 
lurchadams said:
Alright, fine. Give me one of your right-wing links and I'll fact-check it.
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I wasn't planning on using a site that has a lean politically, I usually don't. I just wanted to point out to you that your demand for only left leaning sources is more your problem than mine.

NY Assembly Democrats defend blocking bill to help Gold Star families - syracuse.com

Do you also need evidence that the State of New York approved a similar bill that would fund college tuition for illegal aliens? Also, read the article above about why the Democrats blocked that bill and ask yourself whether any of those objections apply to undocumented aliens.
 
Mycroft said:
Obama DIDN'T get the job done...not with that poor excuse of a fence he built. He just wasted a lot of money and took the credit you are giving him for it.
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How many miles has Trump built, Mycos? You're dying here.

Read the article of Trump's actions last week in context, educate yourself, and I'll be happy to discuss it further if you'd like.

Reference: (CBS) Trump's "new" border wall section in California dates to Obama administration

Until then I'll leave this Trumpian artifact from last week, for a few good laughs:


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lurchadams said:
An opinion piece that contains facts and opinions of republicant officials, my friend.

I'm sorry the facts don't align with your predetermined narrative.
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You do realize that the number of crossings isn't evidence of responsibility, right?

Who is it that is fighting to broaden benefits to illegals once they get here? (Democrats) Which party is it fighting to protect illegal aliens from deportation? (Democrats)

Your position is that the guy saying "Don't come! We will send you back." is responsible for them coming and not the party saying "Please come! Ignore the President! We have cookies!"

That's ... ummm... stupid. Sorry, I can't think of a nicer way to say it.
 
Ah, the liberal's trump: he is both anti-immigrant, and pro immigrant at the same time!
 
Praxas said:
You were saying?
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I thought the image was quite clear... You play the race-card to falsely malign people you disagree with, so you can avoid having any kind of honest discussion.
 
jmotivator said:
You do realize that the number of crossings isn't evidence of responsibility, right?

Who is it that is fighting to broaden benefits to illegals once they get here? (Democrats) Which party is it fighting to protect illegal aliens from deportation? (Democrats)

Your position is that the guy saying "Don't come! We will send you back." is responsible for them coming and not the party saying "Please come! Ignore the President! We have cookies!"

That's ... ummm... stupid. Sorry, I can't think of a nicer way to say it.
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Many Republicans disagree with you my hateful, confused friend.

I can't think of a nicer way to say it.
 
lurchadams said:
Trump Railed At Illegal Immigration But Now Owns The Worst Numbers In A Decade | HuffPost

For all you trump fans out there who think he's doing you anything but a disservice - think again!
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Yeah, and with the Dem-media complex supporting his efforts so enthusiastically how could this happen? It's not like the Dems "come on up" approach to border control or the media canonizing every migrant they talk to has any effect. But, this is HuffPo or more appropriately Huffpoo. :cool;
 
lurchadams said:
Many Republicans disagree with you my hateful, confused friend.

I can't think of a nicer way to say it.
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Oh, many republicans disagree? Name some.
 
Bullseye said:
Oh, many republicans disagree? Name some.
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Leave it to a closed-minded right-wing ideologue to comment on a thread without actually reading the OP and it's source.

We're done here - how's the inside of that right-wing bubble treating you?
 
Praxas said:
Yeah folks like you only want rich White Europeans to come to this country. Your ideology is a disgrace con. When old cons die off, the world will be a better place.
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lurchadams said:
Leave it to a closed-minded right-wing ideologue to comment on a thread without actually reading the OP and it's source.

We're done here - how's the inside of that right-wing bubble treating you?
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In other words you were just blowing smoke and are now trying to bluster and bluff your way out of having to put up real facts.
 
lurchadams said:
So you just contradicted your own claim. No policies implemented. Right-wing gun nuts are motivated only by fear which is what created the run on guns and ammo.
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I didn't contradict anything. Part of the reason why there are so many people here illegally now is for the same reason... fear that stricter immigration policies will actually be implemented and enforced.
 
lurchadams said:
Trump Railed At Illegal Immigration But Now Owns The Worst Numbers In A Decade | HuffPost

For all you trump fans out there who think he's doing you anything but a disservice - think again!
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So now you support President Trump, correct? Afterall, Nancy Pelosi thanks illegal immigrants for coming here with their children.

This attack won't work because EVERYONE knows that the Democrats are doing all they can to open up the border to illegal immigration and President Trump is doing everything possible to close the border. Illegal immigration singularly lands on Democrats as a political issue and everyone knows it.
 
Chomsky said:
How many miles has Trump built, Mycos?
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You are beating Obama's dead horse. It's boring.

But I have to ask...why do you call me "Mycos"?
 
jmotivator said:
Right, you know where else I don't see "humanitarian crisis"? The OP. :roll:

Your semantic game doesn't go anywhere. The Immigration crisis has always been about the number of illegals flooding across the border, and the Democrats have always opposed any effort to stop that flood when they think they get Political points.

The crisis is on their heads as it is Democrats that fill these people's heads with lies about life in America if they get across the border.
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If you don't understand the difference between a humanitarian crisis and a security crisis this conversation is pointless.
 
Mycroft said:
You are beating Obama's dead horse. It's boring.

But I have to ask...why do you call me "Mycos"?
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Oh geez, I'm sorry Mycroft. It was not intended, nor was any harm intended. It's actually a family surname (with varied spellings), and I somehow got it confused with your nick.

As to Bush and Obama, they do illustrate Trump's impotence in acting effectually.
 
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