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Ilhan Omar controversy with 9/11 cover

And you are more likely in the US to be killed by a lightning strike than by a terrorist act.

Of course, but the point was he argued that no right winger would minimize a terrorist attack, and I pointed out how they do all the time when it suits their agenda just like Omar did.
 
Thats because we have destroyed AL Qaeda and ISIS, not because islam has emerged from the Dark Ages.

It's because its harder to get here now to commit an act of terrorism. I never argued that islamic terrorism is not a threat, but rather that just like Omar minimized islamic terrorism to suit her agenda, the poster I was responding to was doing the same with right wing terrorism. As far as terrorism goes, I think they are both a problem.
 
Israel Israel Israel.

This is another part of right wing antisemitism. They conflate Israel with Jews.

The very first person to tell me to my face that they thought Israel is a fascist state... is Jewish.

There is a reason that Bibi won a 5th straight election. The liberals in Israel are being squeezed out because they are insane. All this in the midst of investigations and still he won. The liberals are being kicked to the curb. Trump has thrived and won an election amidst investigations and horrible false accusations. Trump will win again in 2020 because people don't want socialism and they don't want a radical in the White House.
 
“Far too long we have lived with the discomfort of being a second-class citizen, and frankly, I’m tired of it, and every single Muslim in this country should be tired of it,” Omar said at the event. “CAIR was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties.”

Isn't this the argument right wingers use every time there is a mass shooting? At least in Omar's case we have seen the very real danger that Muslims have been facing due to the acts of some Saudi Arabian terrorists.
 
There is a reason that Bibi won a 5th straight election. The liberals in Israel are being squeezed out because they are insane. All this in the midst of investigations and still he won. The liberals are being kicked to the curb. Trump has thrived and won an election amidst investigations and horrible false accusations. Trump will win again in 2020 because people don't want socialism and they don't want a radical in the White House.

The investigation into trump during the election was not made public, so it’s deceptive to claim that he won the election “in the midst of investigations.”
 
This taking her words out of context to demonize her is going to get her, or someone, killed. The right-wing really needs to knock off this culture war and try and attract support through ideas, which they seem to have run out of.

They are displaying classic fascism here.
 
“Far too long we have lived with the discomfort of being a second-class citizen, and frankly, I’m tired of it, and every single Muslim in this country should be tired of it,” Omar said at the event. “CAIR was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties.”

Isn't this the argument right wingers use every time there is a mass shooting? At least in Omar's case we have seen the very real danger that Muslims have been facing due to the acts of some Saudi Arabian terrorists.

Seriously, who thinks this is about individuals? If only it were that simple. This is about IDEOLOGY.
And no, the right does not act like victims when some nut shoots people.
 
This taking her words out of context to demonize her is going to get her, or someone, killed. The right-wing really needs to knock off this culture war and try and attract support through ideas, which they seem to have run out of.

They are displaying classic fascism here.

Yeah, gee, it could even cause some guy to shoot up baseball field of Republicans.
Say, how many White House Press Secretaries have needed a SS detail?
One.
 
The investigation into trump during the election was not made public, so it’s deceptive to claim that he won the election “in the midst of investigations.”

It's actually a factual statement.
 
It's actually a factual statement.

Well, we'll see how Trump does when the public is actually aware of the twenty investigations into him in 2020, rather than in 2016 when nobody knew he was under investigation.
 
Call us when Omar gets screamed at in a restaurant by a bunch of lunatics. Call us when she can't go out in public without being screamed at like so many Republicans have. Call us when a bunch of Antifa imbeciles descend on her home and try to pound her door down and vandalize her property.
 
Well, we'll see how Trump does when the public is actually aware of the twenty investigations into him in 2020, rather than in 2016 when nobody knew he was under investigation.

Yes, we will see how Americans feel about constant and ginned-up investigations by Democrats who refuse to do a damn thing, like legislate and make our lives better, for them because they're obsessed with unseating a duly-elected President and want to keep a cloud over his head and the entire nation right up through 2020.
 
Call us when Omar gets screamed at in a restaurant by a bunch of lunatics. Call us when she can't go out in public without being screamed at like so many Republicans have. Call us when a bunch of Antifa imbeciles descend on her home and try to pound her door down and vandalize her property.

Don't forget their blacklisting of former Trump administration employees.
 
The investigation into trump during the election was not made public, so it’s deceptive to claim that he won the election “in the midst of investigations.”

He had the FBI, CIA, NSA, Obama, Clinton etc trying to take him down and he still won. Your team is garbage. It's time to rebuild.
 
He had the FBI, CIA, NSA, Obama, Clinton etc trying to take him down and he still won.

Nobody knew about the FBI's investigation into Trump in 2016.

Your team is garbage. It's time to rebuild.

Projection.
 
Don't forget their blacklisting of former Trump administration employees.

omg, yes! They are trying to destroy any chance of Kirstjen Neilson getting another job. These people go all War of the Roses.
 
This taking her words out of context to demonize her is going to get her, or someone, killed. The right-wing really needs to knock off this culture war and try and attract support through ideas, which they seem to have run out of.

They are displaying classic fascism here.

The words werent taken out of context. And go educate yourself before throwing accusations of fascism around. There is no fascism in America but there is an incredible amoult of liberal ignorance in America
 
And like how Omar minimized Islamic terrorism, you are still minimizing right wing terrorism because it suits your agenda. As though this never happened on U.S. soil:

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The fact is, statistically, since 9/11, you are more apt to be killed in the United States by a right wing terrorist than an Islamic terrorist.
"Among this report’s key findings:

Every year adherents of a variety of extreme causes kill people in the United States; ADL’s COE tracks these murders.
In 2018, domestic extremists killed at least 50 people in the U.S., a sharp increase from the 37 extremist-related murders documented in 2017, though still lower than the totals for 2015 (70) and 2016 (72). The 50 deaths make 2018 the fourth-deadliest year on record for domestic extremist-related killings since 1970.
The extremist-related murders in 2018 were overwhelmingly linked to right-wing extremists. Every one of the perpetrators had ties to at least one right-wing extremist movement, although one had recently switched to supporting Islamist extremism. White supremacists were responsible for the great majority of the killings, which is typically the case."

Murder and Extremism in the United States in 2018

Go ahead though, do just like Omar and continue to minimize groups that commit terrorism when it suits your agenda to do so.

I have not "minimized" anything. Why do you think they start counting since 9/11? Talk about minimizing, like those near 3 thousand souls dont even count
 
Israel Israel Israel.

This is another part of right wing antisemitism. They conflate Israel with Jews.

The very first person to tell me to my face that they thought Israel is a fascist state... is Jewish.

You think liberals love (or at least tolerate) Jews while despising Israel? I see how people might do that but I think they do not understand logic if they do.
 
Correct. Which part do you disagree with? You think all white people should be judged by the actions of white supremacist terrorists in America? Why haven't you condemned the guy who set fire to those churches?

I don't think all cranes should be judged by the actions of some, to semi-borrow an Aesopian metaphor. But the cranes who do commit acts of murder and treason should not be (contrary to the philosophy of Omar) be given mere slaps on the wrist on her self-serving theory that it will make better people of said cranes.
 
Literally blaming the victim of white supremacist hatred. Curious. Why are you supporting white supremacists?

So are you saying, contrary to your last post, that I can be judged a white supremacist on the level of Christopher Hasson, because I've said that I don't like Omar. Such luminescent reasoning!:roll:
 
Here is some interesting reading on how "right wing terror" numbers are artificially inflated. It's almost like they have an agenda or something, excerpt MORE AT LINK:

No, Right-Wing Terrorism is NOT More Common Than Islamic Extremism – Dan Bongino

The source in question is a 2017 Government Accountability Office (GAO) study titled “Countering Violent Extremism.” While Booker’s assessment is technically correct that 73 percent of terrorist attacks are from far-right groups (which I assume is what he meant to say regardless), the GAO study is extremely flimsy on what constitutes a right-wing terrorist attack. For example, turn to page 29 of the study, and one of the right-wing terrorist attacks is described as “White Supremacist member of Aryan Brotherhood killed a man.” That’s it. No detail as to the motive, the race of the victim, or anything else. Since when does a murder become a terrorist incident just because the murderer also happens to be a bigot? A hate crime perhaps, but not a terror attack. That same white supremacist killed someone else in later weeks, and is counted as a separate “terrorist attack” in the study.

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On page 31, “Far rightist murdered a homeless man” is counted as a right-wing terror attack, and if these examples thus far weren’t crazy enough, page 32 describes a “White supremacist [who] shot and killed 9 at his community college.” That shooting was the 2015 Umpqua Community College shooting, carried out by a self-described “mixed race” individual who singled out Christians for his attack. Does that sound like a right-wing terrorist attack to you? How about on page 30, when the study documents the “right-wing terrorist attack” involving “Six white supremacist inmates beat[ing] another prisoner to death.”? Do you walk the streets in fear that prison inmates will somehow assault you?

Clearly, the GAO is grasping at straws when it comes to defining terrorism or “major attacks.” Indeed, nearly every single right-wing terrorist attack on the list are individual murders that at best would accurately be described as hate crimes. Those murders should not be counted as instances of “terrorism,” but suppose for a second that we’re to grant the GAO’s methodology. Even so, this highlights another problem in the study: that they’re counting attacks based on their frequency, not death toll.

This pretty much answers my question about how people like Don Lemon are defining "terrorists."
 
I have not "minimized" anything. Why do you think they start counting since 9/11? Talk about minimizing, like those near 3 thousand souls dont even count


I am not minimizing either one that is the point.
 
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