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‘I have to perform to save my life’: Medical bills kept rock legend Dick Dale touring till the end

Yes it does.
Where, on the life expectancy scale, does 'one of the dang best in the world' stop? Top ten? Top 25? Where do you guess the USA is?

Ranking is irrelevant. Quality of care is what counts. You could have the Top 25 all within a few years of each other, for instance.

Who would you prefer to compare the US to, Haiti or New Zealand?

What does Haiti have to do with the US Health Care System?
 
You’re either trolling or there’s something seriously wrong with you.

Are you saying that people should do more complaining and less problem solving then?
 
Ranking is irrelevant. Quality of care is what counts. You could have the Top 25 all within a few years of each other, for instance.



What does Haiti have to do with the US Health Care System?

What does any country have to do with it? You're the one who compared the US to the rest of the world when you said, 'one of the danged best...'

You have no way to quantify quality. The only basis of comparison is results.
 
What does any country have to do with it? You're the one who compared the US to the rest of the world when you said, 'one of the danged best...'

You have no way to quantify quality. The only basis of comparison is results.

The USA is near the top of the worlds list when health care systems are compared... so is New Zealand. That is my point.
 
The USA is near the top of the worlds list when health care systems are compared... so is New Zealand. That is my point.

The US is near the top compared to Haiti. Not compared to New Zealand. That's my point.
 
We are too busy saving the other nations from conquest and bailing them out from Natural Disasters to have all issues sorted... that does not mean that the USA health care system is not one of the dang best in the world.

No, but it has an inefficient method of access. This country has some of the best specialists in the world, but health is best managed through preventative care. You reduce the need to address as many life threatening conditions if you have access to routine screenings and checkups. Access to that basic healthcare for everyone should be the goal.
 
Under a socialized medical system, Dick Dale would have stopped receiving treatment 10+ years ago.
 
YES. There are probably a hundred and thirty plus countries that the USA has a longer life expectancy than...

The reasons are drug deaths, suicides and illegal migrants. The reason is not our healthcare system.

So, how much of your income are you willing to have taken from you to pay for other people's millions-of-dollars-each medical issues?

Apparently the problem was not money since he was paying the $3000 a month and died anyway.

There is just one solution. The Federal government should outlaw death and pay to costs to do so. Problem would thus be solved with everyone assured immortality. What is the estimated cost for every American to have immortality?
 
I wonder how much money he saved in his life for old age? The OP doesn't mention the age he died at: Age 81.

He had cancer (well over a decade), diabetes, heart disease and kidney failure. Nothing that a money can't cure because only poor people die of those conditions. Rich people never die - ever - because they can afford medical care.
 
The reasons are drug deaths, suicides and illegal migrants. The reason is not our healthcare system.

So, how much of your income are you willing to have taken from you to pay for other people's millions-of-dollars-each medical issues?

Apparently the problem was not money since he was paying the $3000 a month and died anyway.

There is just one solution. The Federal government should outlaw death and pay to costs to do so. Problem would thus be solved with everyone assured immortality. What is the estimated cost for every American to have immortality?

Lower than one would imagine if calculated in adjusted dollars...
 
Only in today's warped world do people like this get to live longer lives than they would in most other places, and at any other past-time, and live to complain about how they are still alive... as well as blame others for the fact that they are still able to live, just not as well as they would like. :roll:

That's a warped callous POV considering that the US life expectancy is around forthieth globally.

Every developed country but your "utopia" cares better for it's citizens, such that they do not have to fear bankruptcy due to sickness in old age.
 
Lower than one would imagine if calculated in adjusted dollars...

I dunno. Immortality is a very long time - especially near the end.
 
Under a socialized medical system, Dick Dale would have stopped receiving treatment 10+ years ago.

Yes, that is generally what Canada does, let the elderly die of disease on the streets.
 
My god, why are we not talking about this massive humanitarian crisis in Canada?

Probably due to something something Obama, which is, of course, something something Hilary Clinton. /s
 
The reasons are drug deaths, suicides and illegal migrants. The reason is not our healthcare system.

Yes, that’s why the US health care system sucks so badly — drug addicts, people with psychological trauma, and brown people :roll:

You continue to justify your moniker.
 
My god, why are we not talking about this massive humanitarian crisis in Canada?


I’m only commenting on your avatar. That’s probably my favorite game of all time. I can’t wait for the sequel.
 
Yes, that’s why the US health care system sucks so badly — drug addicts, people with psychological trauma, and brown people :roll:

You continue to justify your moniker.

Those are the primary reasons. But some people have a problem with reality clashing with their political agenda and talking points so they sneer at reality.
 
Those are the primary reasons. But some people have a problem with reality clashing with their political agenda and talking points so they sneer at reality.

Well you’re full of ****ty, factually baseless, right-wing talking points. So, there’s that.
I don’t know whose ass you pulled those from, but you should stuff them back up there.
 
I personally feel that there is something fundamentally wrong with the fact that the quality and quantity of American citizens healthcare is dictated by the amount of money they possess. It’s cheaper to die than afford life saving health care in America. Think about that.
Nothing to think about, no "fact" to it; what you've said is a LW trope. Dale was an anomaly, not the rule.
 
Silly question: why didn't he go on the health care exchange and buy insurance, since he couldn't be turned down because of preexisting conditions?

He was already on MEDICARE for MANY YEARS. He was eighty-one or eighty-two when he died the other day.
By the way, when I say I "knew" him, I did not mean that we ate dinner at each other's houses or anything.
I meant that I worked for one of his good friends and I saw quite a bit of him, he knew my name and knew I was Hal's video guy, that sort of thing.

Anytime Dick was in town, Hal and I more often than not would meet him at the Reel Inn or some other Malibu eatery and grab a bite. Dick would rag on Hal about Hal's drinking, Hal would ignore it and make Dick laugh. Dick always talked about someday enlisting Hal to film a big budget MTV video but it always boiled down to Dick's health putting the kibosh on the money for the project.
But Dick was a huge fan of Hal's surf films and Hal used a little bit of Dick's music on some of his projects, no complaints from Dick.

Dick was sick for MANY MANY years, even in his youth, and as the insurance game changed, so did his luck WITH the insurance companies.
Dick Dale was pronounced virtually "uninsurable" for all practical purposes as far back as the late 1980's and could only get coverage for the basics, and even when he won a couple of battles, the result was the insurance companies grudgingly allowed him to pay through the nose for hospital coverage, but even that came with all the baggage that pre-ACA health insurance was known for, treatment caps, spending caps, you name it.

By the time the ACA passed, Dick had already been shunted to Medicare many years ago, and his policy was crap when he first got it and it remained crap due to his health issues. He had to purchase expensive "gap coverage" and pay out of pocket for about 45% of what he needed.

Anybody who is or who has a loved one who has been sick most of their life starting in the 1970's is already very familiar with what I am describing. Catastrophically ill and disabled people have it ridiculously hard in this country. They are the most vulnerable.
The stresses that Dick's illness carried cost him several valuable pieces of real estate, and ultimately, a marriage, although his first wife was not exactly a perfect little angel...but no way was she built to deal with what he was going through.

Dick's first wife reminds me of MY wife's first husband, who was around for all the sparkle and honeymoons but the moment she got gravely ill and delivered a disabled son, out the door he went.
 
The USA is near the top of the worlds list when health care systems are compared... so is New Zealand. That is my point.

We're number 37.
No...really, we are at or near #37. As of 2009 that was our rank.
Oh wow, maybe we're #36, or even possibly #30? Maybe.
Highly doubtful that we climbed thirty spots in the last ten years.

 
We're number 37.
No...really, we are at or near #37. As of 2009 that was our rank.
Oh wow, maybe we're #36, or even possibly #30? Maybe.
Highly doubtful that we climbed thirty spots in the last ten years.



That is like saying that that the 30th fastest guy in the world is not fast...
 
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