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There are mounting signs of military planning for Venezuela

BTW, it appears your two year wet dream is over; and you got the booby-prize. Don't worry, we'll keep reminding you about.

"wet dream"? One must wonder about what you are thinking about when using a sexually loaded term, perhaps because you have had one on Friday night.

I don't know what will happen next but I do find it rather unusual that as of 10:41 EDT today, the president has only tweeted twice. One might think that if the Mueller report was seen as exonerating him, he would have been doing his usual celebratory keypad twitching. We will see what comes next, hopefully.
 
It's such a huge mess with layer upon layer of repression. If you take out Maduro, you've got Diosdado Cabello, after him you've got the PSUV, after that, the colectivos and more beyond that. The US had better consider carefully what it is signing up for. However, the USA is a sovereign nation that has every right to refuse to be an accomplice to Maduro repressing its own people. The US has a right to have no trade nor diplomatic contact with the Venezuelan dictatorship whatsoever.
 
Andrew McCabe heard the following from the president.

“That’s the country we should be going to war with, They have all that oil and they’re right on our back door.” pg. 130

Like most failed leaders Trump is pivoting to foreign policy to try and sway the election. He will go to war with a Socialist country, while also campaigning against the socialism in the Democratic Party.

Like most failed leaders, you must be talking about Obama not Trump
 
"wet dream"? One must wonder about what you are thinking about when using a sexually loaded term, perhaps because you have had one on Friday night.

I don't know what will happen next but I do find it rather unusual that as of 10:41 EDT today, the president has only tweeted twice. One might think that if the Mueller report was seen as exonerating him, he would have been doing his usual celebratory keypad twitching. We will see what comes next, hopefully.

It did exonerate him. Trump is celebrating, the whole world knows he's been exonerated.
 
Trump believes in make love not war.He still wants that Nobel Peace Prize.

It comes with $100,000 to the recipient each time.

Trump's not greedy however because he actually wants it for Jared.

So Jared can give Ivanka $70K. While each Jared and Ivanka can kick back $20K. Which leaves Trump with the balance. It's called the art of the deal. And it's the only kind of deal Trump knows. Which means Putin gets half of Trump's take.

So your answer to how much Putin gets is....


If you gave the correct answer you get your own prize -- one free course at the Trump College of Knowledge.

Venezuela Campus. It's new but you'll like it there.
 
It did exonerate him. Trump is celebrating, the whole world knows he's been exonerated.

Barr: The Special Counsel states that “while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

Read Attorney General William Barr’s Summary of the Mueller Report - The New York Times




Of course, I won't hold my breath waiting for any of you to apologize for insisting that Mueller was part of a vast shadowy conspiracy to frame Trump. After all, between having to do that and face up to the 30+ indictments and multiple convictions, you might find it raining on your little victory parade.
 
Barr: The Special Counsel states that “while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

Read Attorney General William Barr’s Summary of the Mueller Report - The New York Times

Of course, I won't hold my breath waiting for any of you to apologize for insisting that Mueller was part of a vast shadowy conspiracy to frame Trump. After all, between having to do that and face up to the 30+ indictments and multiple convictions, you might find it raining on your little victory parade.

AG Barr unilaterally exonerated Trump on obstruction, now Americans must see EVERY SHRED of evidence

WASHINGTON, DC - JANUARY 15: U.S. Attorney General nominee William Barr (C) testifies at his confirmation hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee January 15, 2019 in Washington, DC. Barr, who previously served as Attorney General under President George H. W. Bush, was confronted about his views on the investigation being conducted by special counsel Robert Mueller. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)

Attorney General William Barr has now sent his four-page summary of the findings of Robert Mueller's investigation, which reportedly included more than 2,800 subpoenas, almost 500 executed search warrants, 13 requests to foreign governments for evidence, approximately 500 identified witnesses in, according to the Justice Department summary. Yet we only have four pages setting forth Barr's determinations without any of the underlying evidence.

In doing so, Barr has pre-colored the debate around Mueller's report while depriving Congress and the American people of any of the actual details regarding his determinations.

Perhaps the biggest and most glaring problem with Barr's determinations thus far is the fact that he decided to unilaterally exonerate Trump of obstruction charges even though Mueller explicitly chose not to make a determination on that point. On obstruction, Barr writes, “The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’” Barr then writes that he and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein that the evidence developed was "not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.” (By the way, one part of their conclusion is based on the fact that Mueller did not find “an underlying crime.” In other words, they are saying that since Mueller didn’t make a collusion charge, then there couldn’t be obstruction.)

Barr then concludes that since Mueller made no criminal determination on obstruction, he must make one.

"The Special Counsel's decision to describe the facts of his obstruction investigation without reaching any legal conclusions leaves it to the Attorney General to determine whether the conduct described in the report constitutes a crime," Barr writes.

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It did exonerate him. Trump is celebrating, the whole world knows he's been exonerated.

The words of AG Barr in his four page letter to Congress

"[W]hile this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him," reads Barr's letter to Congress, quoting Mueller directly.
 
AG Barr unilaterally exonerated Trump on obstruction, now Americans must see EVERY SHRED of evidence

Try reading the words again:

Barr: The Special Counsel states that “while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

Read Attorney General William Barr’s Summary of the Mueller Report - The New York Times




And again:

The words of AG Barr in his four page letter to Congress

"[W]hile this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him," reads Barr's letter to Congress, quoting Mueller directly.




Or is this "the truth is not the truth" territory?
 
Barr: The Special Counsel states that “while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

I see you know nothing, Christ I understand but Mueller pushed that final decision of obstruction to the AG and Rosenstein.

Special counsel Robert Mueller did not find that President Donald Trump was guilty of obstruction of justice. It didn’t find him innocent, either.

Attorney General William Barr and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein have concluded that “the evidence is not sufficient” to charge Trump with obstruction of justice. But as a letter written by Barr to the House Judiciary Committee Sunday (summarizing the still-confidential Mueller report submitted to Barr and the Department of Justice on Friday) makes clear, that was Barr and Rosenstein’s decision — not Mueller’s.

Of course, I won't hold my breath waiting for any of you to apologize for insisting that Mueller was part of a vast shadowy conspiracy to frame Trump. After all, between having to do that and face up to the 30+ indictments and multiple convictions, you might find it raining on your little victory parade.

Yeah I see ignorance in you not knowing what the hell is going on. Mueller left the final decision to Barr and Rosenstein who have exoranted Trump on obstruction.

In bold more ignorance, none of them had a damn thing to do with Russia collusion. And yes we are celebrating our victory parade, unlike you that you were 100% certain Trump colluded with the Russian and committed obstruction. Yep after 2+ yrs of being 100% certain, you lose. Of course I won't hold my breath waiting for your apology.
 
Agreed. We seem to have a long history of leaving just as much of a mess as what we claimed we were going in to deal with.

I agree, South America is best left to the Russians and the Chinese. Oh, and our friends the Cubans.

Maybe the democrats can get them all to vote absentee!
 
Try reading the words again:

Yeah here you go

I see you know nothing, Christ I understand but Mueller pushed that final decision of obstruction to the AG and Rosenstein.

Special counsel Robert Mueller did not find that President Donald Trump was guilty of obstruction of justice. It didn’t find him innocent, either.

Attorney General William Barr and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein have concluded that “the evidence is not sufficient” to charge Trump with obstruction of justice. But as a letter written by Barr to the House Judiciary Committee Sunday (summarizing the still-confidential Mueller report submitted to Barr and the Department of Justice on Friday) makes clear, that was Barr and Rosenstein’s decision — not Mueller’s.

And again:

Here you go

I see you know nothing, Christ I understand but Mueller pushed that final decision of obstruction to the AG and Rosenstein.

Special counsel Robert Mueller did not find that President Donald Trump was guilty of obstruction of justice. It didn’t find him innocent, either.

Attorney General William Barr and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein have concluded that “the evidence is not sufficient” to charge Trump with obstruction of justice. But as a letter written by Barr to the House Judiciary Committee Sunday (summarizing the still-confidential Mueller report submitted to Barr and the Department of Justice on Friday) makes clear, that was Barr and Rosenstein’s decision — not Mueller’s.

Or is this "the truth is not the truth" territory?

You have no clue what the truth is, here is the truth, Mueller shoved the final decision on obstruction to the AG and Rosenstein, who reviewed the evidence and found "I see you know nothing, Christ I understand but Mueller pushed that final decision of obstruction to the AG and Rosenstein.

Special counsel Robert Mueller did not find that President Donald Trump was guilty of obstruction of justice. It didn’t find him innocent, either.

Attorney General William Barr and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein have concluded that “the evidence is not sufficient” to charge Trump with obstruction of justice. But as a letter written by Barr to the House Judiciary Committee Sunday (summarizing the still-confidential Mueller report submitted to Barr and the Department of Justice on Friday) makes clear, that was Barr and Rosenstein’s decision — not Mueller’s.
 
The words of AG Barr in his four page letter to Congress

"[W]hile this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him," reads Barr's letter to Congress, quoting Mueller directly.

I see you know nothing, Christ I understand but Mueller pushed that final decision of obstruction to the AG and Rosenstein.

Special counsel Robert Mueller did not find that President Donald Trump was guilty of obstruction of justice. It didn’t find him innocent, either.

Attorney General William Barr and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein have concluded that “the evidence is not sufficient” to charge Trump with obstruction of justice. But as a letter written by Barr to the House Judiciary Committee Sunday (summarizing the still-confidential Mueller report submitted to Barr and the Department of Justice on Friday) makes clear, that was Barr and Rosenstein’s decision — not Mueller’s.

You have no clue what the truth is, here is the truth, Mueller shoved the final decision on obstruction to the AG and Rosenstein, who reviewed the evidence and found “the evidence is not sufficient” to charge Trump with obstruction of justice.
 
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