Ilhan Omar on anti-hate House resolution: 'This is great progress'

zimmer · Mar 8, 2019

Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., praised the passage of a resolution condemning hate speech and bigotry that was brought to a vote in response to her comments that many interpreted as anti-Semitic.

“We are tremendously proud to be part of a body that has put forth a condemnation of all forms of bigotry including anti-Semitism, racism, and white supremacy,” Omar said in a joint statement with Reps. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., and Andre Carson, D-Ind.

“At a time when extremism is on the rise, we must explicitly denounce religious intolerance of all kinds and acknowledge the pain felt by all communities. Our nation is having a difficult conversation and we believe this is great progress,” they said.

Ilhan Omar on anti-hate House resolution: 'This is great progress'

Anti-semite Democrats claim victory.

The gutless Democrat Party once again, as seen throughout their history, has sided with bigots.

America is not having a “difficult conversation”. People of all religions and colors are desperately trying to come to the greatest country in the world.

RabidAlpaca · Mar 8, 2019

Lol, "that many interpreted as anti-semitic". So she votes for an amendment that condemns all forms of bigotry, including anti-semitism, and in doing so that makes her anti-semitic? You guys are pathetic and really reaching. Also, the vast majority of the world's Jews are not Israeli, so conflating criticism of Israeli politics with anti-semitism is ridiculous and makes no sense.

zimmer said:
The gutless Democrat Party once again, as seen throughout their history, has sided with bigots.

I don't see them siding with Republicans at all. Are you saying bigots condemn all forms of bigotry? How does that make sense?

Crovax · Mar 8, 2019

RabidAlpaca said:
Lol, "that many interpreted as anti-semitic". So she votes for an amendment that condemns all forms of bigotry, including anti-semitism, and in doing so that makes her anti-semitic? You guys are pathetic and really reaching. Also, the vast majority of the world's Jews are not Israeli, so conflating criticism of Israeli politics with anti-semitism is ridiculous and makes no sense.

I don't see them siding with Republicans at all. Are you saying bigots condemn all forms of bigotry? How does that make sense?

There are roughly 20 million Jews, 16 million live in the US and Israel. So yes the US/Israel foreign relations policies are highly relevant to the Jewish community at large

RabidAlpaca · Mar 8, 2019

Crovax said:
There are roughly 20 million Jews, 16 million live in the US and Israel. So yes the US/Israel foreign relations policies are highly relevant to the Jewish community at large

That's a pretty arbitrary number you just made up. Israel only has 6 million Jews and considers considers anyone in the world with a single Jewish grandparent to be officially Jewish and welcomes them with free citizenship. By that definition there are far, far more Jews than 20 million, making their 6 million even less representative of all Jews. Second, nothing said by Omar can reasonably be misconstrued as anti-semitism. Criticizing Israel's policies =/= anti-semitism no matter how much you guys want it to be.

I'm also completely baffled how a resolution condemning all bigotry, including anti-semitism, is anti-semitic. You have to do quite the mental gymnastics on that one.

Abbazorkzog · Mar 8, 2019

She wasn't even talking about Jews. She was talking about Republicans and Christian Evangelicals in US Congress.

This isn't even about Israel. Its about radical extremist ideologies and cult-like followings infiltrating our government.

DarkWizard12 · Mar 8, 2019

RabidAlpaca said:
Lol, "that many interpreted as anti-semitic". So she votes for an amendment that condemns all forms of bigotry, including anti-semitism, and in doing so that makes her anti-semitic? You guys are pathetic and really reaching. Also, the vast majority of the world's Jews are not Israeli, so conflating criticism of Israeli politics with anti-semitism is ridiculous and makes no sense.

I don't see them siding with Republicans at all. Are you saying bigots condemn all forms of bigotry? How does that make sense?

she's the reason why this resolution was necessary.

Since when has it ever been 'just' criticism of Israel? all I've ever seen is outright condemnation. If I said the same things about kenya, i would expect to be called a racist. I mean...you know....if a kenyan can control our government, why not the israel lobby?

RabidAlpaca · Mar 8, 2019

DarkWizard12 said:
she's the reason why this resolution was necessary.

Since when has it ever been 'just' criticism of Israel? all I've ever seen is outright condemnation. If I said the same things about kenya, i would expect to be called a racist. I mean...you know....if a kenyan can control our government, why not the israel lobby?

She's the reason the Democrats created the resolution and Omar herself voted for it? That's a good thing right? Can you point to any examples where she criticized or attacked Jews in general and not the policies of Israel?

Your argument is the equivalent of claiming criticism of Kenya's government is tantamount to being racist against all black people, ignoring the fact that the vast majority of black people aren't Kenyan and don't work for the Kenyan government. Completely stupid and childish.

L0neW0lf · Mar 8, 2019

DarkWizard12 said:
she's the reason why this resolution was necessary.

Since when has it ever been 'just' criticism of Israel? all I've ever seen is outright condemnation. If I said the same things about kenya, i would expect to be called a racist. I mean...you know....if a kenyan can control our government, why not the israel lobby?

No you wouldn't.

This is another tweet from Ilhan:

Once again, our President proves that you can’t buy a moral compass.

And Saudi Arabia proves that you can, on the other hand, buy a President.

Ilhan Omar on Twitter: "Once again, our President proves that you can’t buy a moral compass.

And Saudi Arabia proves that you can, on the other hand, buy a President.… https://t.co/iP8dw3emxD"

This is from the American president:

Trump last week accused Clinton of turning the State Department “into her private hedge fund.” “The Russians, the Saudis, the Chinese all gave money to Bill and Hillary and got favorable treatment in return,” he said then. “It's a sad day in America when foreign governments with deep pockets have more influence in our own country than our great citizens.”

Donald Trump demands that Clinton Foundation return $25 million from Saudis - POLITICO

Your president ran on an explicity racist promise of a "Muslim ban". Imagine if he ran on a promise of banning Jews. He explicity agreed to the suggestion of creating registries for Muslim citizens. Were there resolutions to condemn these abominable explcitly racist opinions? no, clearly this racism did not "necessitate" any resolutions? he was awarded with a presidency instead. Criticise Israel or the Israeli lobby though, and watch **** hit the fan, resolutions to condemn "racism" become necessary.

The reality is, she is correct in every single accusation she made, and this witch hunt proves her points, criticising Israel and the Israeli lobby is not antisemetic.

Athanasius68 · Mar 8, 2019

RabidAlpaca said:
She's the reason the Democrats created the resolution and Omar herself voted for it? That's a good thing right? Can you point to any examples where she criticized or attacked Jews in general and not the policies of Israel?

Your argument is the equivalent of claiming criticism of Kenya's government is tantamount to being racist against all black people, ignoring the fact that the vast majority of black people aren't Kenyan and don't work for the Kenyan government. Completely stupid and childish.

Comments critical of Mr. Netanyahu has nothing to do with it. One can of course oppose him and still support Israel. Many Israelis will be doing that in their national election shortly.

But saying that American Jews have a dual loyalty, or that people support Israel due to money has nothing to do with criticising the current government.
And that the Democrats can't condemn such anti- semitism is nothing to be happy about.

code1211 · Mar 8, 2019

RabidAlpaca said:
Lol, "that many interpreted as anti-semitic". So she votes for an amendment that condemns all forms of bigotry, including anti-semitism, and in doing so that makes her anti-semitic? You guys are pathetic and really reaching. Also, the vast majority of the world's Jews are not Israeli, so conflating criticism of Israeli politics with anti-semitism is ridiculous and makes no sense.

I don't see them siding with Republicans at all. Are you saying bigots condemn all forms of bigotry? How does that make sense?

So you say that she did exactly what Trump did in condemning all violence in Charlotte.

You say Trump is a racist for doing this and also that that this antisemitic hate monger is not a racist while you say that she is doing exactly what Trump did.

I find this to be interesting.

apdst · Mar 8, 2019

Abbazorkzog said:
She wasn't even talking about Jews. She was talking about Republicans and Christian Evangelicals in US Congress.

This isn't even about Israel. Its about radical extremist ideologies and cult-like followings infiltrating our government.

So, you're saying it's anti-Christian bigotry?

This isn't even about Israel. Its about radical extremist ideologies and cult-like followings infiltrating our government

And we're going to allow Muslims to be members of Congress?

Abbazorkzog · Mar 8, 2019

apdst said:
So, you're saying it's anti-Christian bigotry?

Are you? because if so, then you simultaneously have to admit this whole brouhaha your side is making is based on lies.

And we're going to allow Muslims to be members of Congress?

:roll:

Harshaw · Mar 8, 2019

RabidAlpaca said:
Lol, "that many interpreted as anti-semitic". So she votes for an amendment that condemns all forms of bigotry, including anti-semitism, and in doing so that makes her anti-semitic? You guys are pathetic and really reaching. Also, the vast majority of the world's Jews are not Israeli, so conflating criticism of Israeli politics with anti-semitism is ridiculous and makes no sense.

I don't see them siding with Republicans at all. Are you saying bigots condemn all forms of bigotry? How does that make sense?

If you want to blind yourself to her anti-Semitism, that's your deal, for whatever your reasons are. But nonetheless, it is what it is.

At least Krugman was honest when he said:

There are three things in life that are certain: death, taxes (unless you're Donald Trump), and persistence of anti-Semitism. But only one brand of antisemitism scares me – and it's not on the left

Mongidig · Mar 8, 2019

RabidAlpaca said:
Lol, "that many interpreted as anti-semitic". So she votes for an amendment that condemns all forms of bigotry, including anti-semitism, and in doing so that makes her anti-semitic? You guys are pathetic and really reaching. Also, the vast majority of the world's Jews are not Israeli, so conflating criticism of Israeli politics with anti-semitism is ridiculous and makes no sense.

I don't see them siding with Republicans at all. Are you saying bigots condemn all forms of bigotry? How does that make sense?

Did you really think she would not vote for this? She's trying to save her job.

Thoreau72 · Mar 8, 2019

Athanasius68 said:
Comments critical of Mr. Netanyahu has nothing to do with it. One can of course oppose him and still support Israel. Many Israelis will be doing that in their national election shortly.

But saying that American Jews have a dual loyalty, or that people support Israel due to money has nothing to do with criticising the current government.
And that the Democrats can't condemn such anti- semitism is nothing to be happy about.

Do you mean it's a good idea for elected representatives to have dual loyalty? To be loyal to 2 countries at once? How does that work when a decision must be made involving both countries? To which country will that legislator be loyal?

Harshaw · Mar 8, 2019

Thoreau72 said:
Do you mean it's a good idea for elected representatives to have dual loyalty? To be loyal to 2 countries at once? How does that work when a decision must be made involving both countries? To which country will that legislator be loyal?

And here you are trading in classic anti-Semitic tropes -- "dual loyalty."

Why would support for Israel entail "dual loyalty"? Hmmmm?

Why doesn't support for any other ally constitute "dual loyalty"? Hmmm? What's so special about Israel? Hmmmm?

Does someone have "dual loyalty" because they support our alliance with Canada? No? Hmmmmm. Why not?

RabidAlpaca · Mar 8, 2019

Athanasius68 said:
Comments critical of Mr. Netanyahu has nothing to do with it. One can of course oppose him and still support Israel. Many Israelis will be doing that in their national election shortly.

But saying that American Jews have a dual loyalty, or that people support Israel due to money has nothing to do with criticising the current government.
And that the Democrats can't condemn such anti- semitism is nothing to be happy about.

Netanyahu? She didn't just criticize Netanyu, she criticized the systematic and long held Israeli government policy of taking land from arabs by force with the justification that "god gave it to our race so we deserve it." I don't see how that's anti-semitic as most Jews are neither Israeli nor zionists.

Mongidig said:
Did you really think she would not vote for this? She's trying to save her job.

Considering she actively condemns all bigotry, no I never thought she wouldn't vote for it.

Harshaw said:
If you want to blind yourself to her anti-Semitism, that's your deal, for whatever your reasons are. But nonetheless, it is what it is.

At least Krugman was honest when he said:

Blind myself to what anti-semitism? Give an example of how she's condemned all Jews everywhere and not just Israeli politics.

Krugman is right though, the nastiest form of anti-semitism is on the right. The worrisome part is that after remaining silent when MAGA hat wearing nazis screamed "Jews will not replace us", they're suddenly super concerned about anti-semitism when a muslim women criticizes Israeli policies. Kind of shows that it's really 100% about partisanship and not about their genuine beliefs.

code1211 said:
So you say that she did exactly what Trump did in condemning all violence in Charlotte.

You say Trump is a racist for doing this and also that that this antisemitic hate monger is not a racist while you say that she is doing exactly what Trump did.

I find this to be interesting.

I didn't say any of that, please show me some quotes.

Harshaw · Mar 8, 2019

RabidAlpaca said:
Blind myself to what anti-semitism? Give an example of how she's condemned all Jews everywhere and not just Israeli politics.

"Condemned all Jews everywhere." As if that's the only measure of anti-Semitism. This is a cowardly deflection on your part.

Krugman is right though, the nastiest form of anti-semitism is on the right.

That's more dishonesty. That's not what he said.

The worrisome part is that after remaining silent when MAGA hat wearing nazis screamed "Jews will not replace us", they're suddenly super concerned about anti-semitism when a muslim women criticizes Israeli policies. Kind of shows that it's really 100% about partisanship and not about their genuine beliefs.

And you're trading in exactly the same thing you're condemning here.

Thoreau72 · Mar 8, 2019

Harshaw said:
And here you are trading in classic anti-Semitic tropes -- "dual loyalty."

Why would support for Israel entail "dual loyalty"? Hmmmm?

Why doesn't support for any other ally constitute "dual loyalty"? Hmmm? What's so special about Israel? Hmmmm?

Does someone have "dual loyalty" because they support our alliance with Canada? No? Hmmmmm. Why not?

Dual loyalty comes with dual citizenship, and there are many dual citizens in the federal government, and they are exclusively dual US-Israeli citizens. No dual US-New Zealand, or US-Irish, but a plethora of dual US-Israeli.

What is the significance of that?

cabse5 · Mar 8, 2019

code1211 said:
So you say that she did exactly what Trump did in condemning all violence in Charlotte.

You say Trump is a racist for doing this and also that that this antisemitic hate monger is not a racist while you say that she is doing exactly what Trump did.

I find this to be interesting.

What an excellent point.

Then again, the SJWs are at it again in dem politics. You can't do it but they can 'cause they've been wronged. Just another reparation being proposed by dems.

Harshaw · Mar 8, 2019

Thoreau72 said:
Dual loyalty comes with dual citizenship, and there are many dual citizens in the federal government, and they are exclusively dual US-Israeli citizens. No dual US-New Zealand, or US-Irish, but a plethora of dual US-Israeli.

What is the significance of that?

This pure Stormfront garbage.

Thoreau72 · Mar 8, 2019

Harshaw said:
This pure Stormfront garbage.

I'm not familiar with Stormfront garbage.

I take it you would rather pass on discussing the implications of dual citizens serving in government?

Mongidig · Mar 8, 2019

The danger of anti-semitic rhetoric is that it comes in very subtle forms that often blind those who are not educated to it's destructive force. It allows the perpetrator to defend their attacks while simultaneously defend against accusations of anti-semitism.

RabidAlpaca · Mar 8, 2019

Harshaw said:
"Condemned all Jews everywhere." As if that's the only measure of anti-Semitism. This is a cowardly deflection on your part.
That's more dishonesty. That's not what he said.
And you're trading in exactly the same thing you're condemning here.

I condemn all bigotry, just like this resolution, so I'm perfectly consistent in that and it doesn't matter who the person in question is or what their lean is. Your argument is about as stupid as claiming that criticizing the governmental policies of Kenya is racist against black people. You've apparently been drinking enough of the Republican kool-aid that you genuinely believe that criticizing Israel makes one an anti-semite.

Krugman said:

But only one brand of antisemitism scares me – and it's not on the left

Yeah, where the **** do you think it is if it's not on the left? The center? Anywhere but the right, huh? Not the torch carrying MAGA hatters screaming "Jews will not replace us", he must have been talking about someone else! :roll: I've never known you of all people to be such a huge fan of Krugman.

Harshaw · Mar 8, 2019

Thoreau72 said:
I'm not familiar with Stormfront garbage.

You might not know it by name (though I doubt that's true), but you definitely trade in it, what with those scary scary JOOOOOOOOOOZ in your government.

I take it you would rather pass on discussing the implications of dual citizens serving in government?

That you accept without question that there are only US-Israeli dual citizens in government says just about everything.

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