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Adam Schiff Hires a Former Prosecutor to Lead the Trump Investigation

Athanasius68 said:
Manafort was not charged for his role at the tower meeting.
We can conclude that it was not illegal.
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No, that is not how that works. Either you REALLY need to be informed on the legal system or you know and are making it up.

Moreover, the tower meeting supports the claim that the Trump campaign was uninterested in what the 'professor' said he had access to.
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So when Don Jr. eagerly agrees to receive the information PapaD told the Trump campaign Russia had, that means the campaign was not interested?

Seriously, what levels of stupid will Trump defenders stoop?

Ok-- so what exactly are we talking about here?
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If you truly don't know, why are you even posting?

If the argument is that the Americans and Russians should not be talking to each other, that's fine. But all this 'colluding' was going during an administration who in its re-election campaign just four years earlier ridiculed the idea that Russia was geo-political rival to the USA.
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The argument is that a Presidential candidate should not be coordinating with a hostile foreign government to win office.

I have said this numerous times.

We also know Russia hacked the RNC
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But only released DNC and only helped Trump. Quit trying to spin.

Trump hasnt denied it much lately.
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Less than a year ago, he stood on stage next to Putin and told the world he believed Putin over the word of American intelligence services. What are you talking about?
"promising sanctions relief" by Flynn was nothing more than the incoming administration exploring whether there was any room for any sort of deal to advance USA interests.
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Rewarding a hostile government for engaging in cyber warfare against US elections does not advance USA interests.

Seriously, stop saying stupid things.
 
rocket88 said:
Or not. I don't think a majority if Americans are on board with Trump's agenda.
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Guess will wait until after the elections in 2020 to know for sure.

I'll hedge my bet on the fact most Americans won't be likely to vote for Socialism.
 
WCH said:
Guess will wait until after the elections in 2020 to know for sure.

I'll hedge my bet on the fact most Americans won't be likely to vote for Socialism.
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No matter how you slice it it's still baloney. Democrats are not socialists.


A vote for Trump is still a vote for Putin.

That hasn't changed either. So the Right still has that freedom.

Use it while you've got it because its shelf date is forseeable.
 
WCH said:
Guess will wait until after the elections in 2020 to know for sure.

I'll hedge my bet on the fact most Americans won't be likely to vote for Socialism.
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Its very possible we all may have to make a choice between Trump or Socialism in 2020! Will be crucial to see how this plays out.
 
Tangmo said:
No matter how you slice it it's still baloney. Democrats are not socialists.


A vote for Trump is still a vote for Putin.

That hasn't changed either. So the Right still has that freedom.

Use it while you've got it because its shelf date is forseeable.
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You better let your party know they're "not socialist" cause they sure aren't keeping that secret very well.


The whole Russia thing is so last week.
 
Welcome to oversight, after 2 years of do nothing nonsense from a sell out, soulless, and cowardly crowd of bandwagon jumping GOP trumpists.

I said the RepublicON party was dead when Obama won re-election. I was right. Now it's the TOP.
 
Tangmo said:
No matter how you slice it it's still baloney. Democrats are not socialists.


A vote for Trump is still a vote for Putin.

That hasn't changed either. So the Right still has that freedom.

Use it while you've got it because its shelf date is forseeable.
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Yip trump will be the last president with an R in front of his name for a very long time to come...
 
WCH said:
You better let your party know they're "not socialist" cause they sure aren't keeping that secret very well.


The whole Russia thing is so last week.
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Wrong the whole Russia thing is so next week, next month and next year.
 
WCH said:
You better let your party know they're "not socialist" cause they sure aren't keeping that secret very well.


The whole Russia thing is so last week.
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Socialism is government ownership of the means of transportation, communication, production. Even Bernie knows he's not a socialist. Bernie is just an attention getter who has grabbed peoples, er, attention. Most Democrats on the so called left are in fact big on income redistribution. This is what makes the Koch Bros balls shrivel along with the rest of the Right Wing Fatcats. Even Bloomberg grabs his wallet when Bernie enters the room. Bernie's not the only Democrat, that's all.

As for Russia, Putin, Trump and the Fanboys, virtually all of you ignore it in the desperate hope it goes away. You're hoping it's gone away already as you over there continue to ignore it or pretend it doesn't exist and didn't ever exist. So my unsolicited advice to you guys concerning Mueller and Schiff is be alert not to go down any sidewalk where a piano is being moved above you. Cause you'll get a sudden change of tune you won't like. You do know Cohen's been singing...and that Mueller has assembled quite a choir. And that neither of 'em are finished yet. Shiff will be conducting for the next two years in fact.
 
GDViking said:
Yip trump will be the last president with an R in front of his name for a very long time to come...
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The next Republican Potus hasn't been born yet.

In 2020 Republicans may lose more House seats than the 40 they lost in November.

The new color in the Senate looks increasingly like solid blue.

And the unwanted anywhere Trump is going to freeze his nuggies in Siberia.
 
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WCH said:
Guess will wait until after the elections in 2020 to know for sure.

I'll hedge my bet on the fact most Americans won't be likely to vote for Socialism.
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It's a sad day for our country when the choice is between the alt-right and the socialists.
 
WCH said:
You better let your party know they're "not socialist" cause they sure aren't keeping that secret very well.

The whole Russia thing is so last week.
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"Socialists" just means in this environment "left of Sean Hannity."
 
ashurbanipal said:
False (since you investigate both crimes and suspected crimes, and both crimes and suspected crimes are aspects of suspects), and irrelevant to the point at hand.
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Investigations center around illegality. That means actions, not people. This is why you're so confused about what an investigation centers on.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
I am not a "lib" so that is why you cannot understand. I never liked Obama, and his hope campaign. In fact one of the first things that turned me off of the Trump campaign was that "make America great again" is really just plagiarized Obama's "hope" campaign. Trump copied Obama so lol.
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Boy is that a stretch beyond reason to compare "MAGA" to "hope" and you say Trump plagiarized himself by using "MAGA" because it's the same as "hope"

Hope, is just that, I hope the stock market goes up. I hope my kids get "A's" in school, with hope and a prayer we'll get there before dark. I hope I get laid tonight.

Make America Great Again is not hoping we can Make America Great Again. It's a directive, we are going to "Make America Great Again". Trump is not hoping to do it, he is doing it.

BTW you are a liberal and I understand perfectly.
 
Born Free said:
Boy is that a stretch beyond reason to compare "MAGA" to "hope" and you say Trump plagiarized himself by using "MAGA" because it's the same as "hope"

Hope, is just that, I hope the stock market goes up. I hope my kids get "A's" in school, with hope and a prayer we'll get there before dark. I hope I get laid tonight.

Make America Great Again is not hoping we can Make America Great Again. It's a directive, we are going to "Make America Great Again". Trump is not hoping to do it, he is doing it.
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The word hope has different definitions. The one that you are using is the wrong one. "Make America Great Again" is a message of hope. The concept is that it is a message that people can get behind hope for a better future. Of course if you only think of the word hope in the simplistic way that you just did, you will probably never understand.

BTW you are a liberal and I understand perfectly.
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Well of course if you are a hyper partisan hack you think that anyone who isnt on your team is a liberal. Given your inability to understand the concept of hope (outside of a grade school level) I doubt that you could understand that not only am I not a liberal but I do not lean left. This should confuse you even more; political leanings are a myth. The funny part is that many liberals think that I am a conservative. But that is how factions think; if you do not fit into their dogmatic world you must belong to the opposing faction. To be clear I am an individualist. I do not belong to any collective; hence why I am not a conservative/liberal or a democrat/republican. I actually blame factions for all the problems/corruption in our government. It is also factions/political parties that are responsible for hedging my own liberties.

So quit acting like an asshole trying to tell me what I am. But then thats what political parties do.
 
Taylor said:
List the 100 federal crimes for collusion with Russia. I'll wait.
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Collusion is only a subset of the investigation. Perhaps you need to re-acquaint yourself with Mueller's charter.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3726381/Robert-Mueller-Special-Counsel-Russia.pdf

Meanwhile, there has sufficient foundation for indictments covering more than 100 crimes, many of them are "collusion" related. Meanwhile, many of the crimes are simply plea bargains to settle greater and more substantial crimes than were actually charged.

Over 100 Charges, 34 People and 3 Companies: The Investigations Surrounding Trump, Explained - The New York Times

https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download
Special Counsel Indictment July 13, 2018

Meanwhile, please show me the list of chargeable crimes that came out of ANY of the investigations done during the previous administration.... don't bother, no point in wasting your time looking for needles in the haystack.

In the end, this will fundamentally be about corruption and the undue foreign influence on our POTUS. Then it will be up to the Republicans to decide whether America is more important than their corruption. I think we all know that in the end the Republicans will chose corruption over country.
 
upsideguy said:
Collusion is only a subset of the investigation. Perhaps you need to re-acquaint yourself with Mueller's charter.
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No, that would be you. You were the one that falsely claimed the "only investigation" into "potential collusion between members of the Trump campaign and Russia" has yielded 100 indictments. You can't even list one indictment related to collusion.
 
Tangmo said:
Socialism is government ownership of the means of transportation, communication, production. Even Bernie knows he's not a socialist. Bernie is just an attention getter who has grabbed peoples, er, attention. Most Democrats on the so called left are in fact big on income redistribution. This is what makes the Koch Bros balls shrivel along with the rest of the Right Wing Fatcats. Even Bloomberg grabs his wallet when Bernie enters the room. Bernie's not the only Democrat, that's all.

As for Russia, Putin, Trump and the Fanboys, virtually all of you ignore it in the desperate hope it goes away. You're hoping it's gone away already as you over there continue to ignore it or pretend it doesn't exist and didn't ever exist. So my unsolicited advice to you guys concerning Mueller and Schiff is be alert not to go down any sidewalk where a piano is being moved above you. Cause you'll get a sudden change of tune you won't like. You do know Cohen's been singing...and that Mueller has assembled quite a choir. And that neither of 'em are finished yet. Shiff will be conducting for the next two years in fact.
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Socialism is the state between the overthrow of Capitalism and the realization of Communism. IOWs, the cat is out of the bag.

The Russia thing is a coverup for crimes against the US by the Left and their sycophants.
 
Taylor said:
Most Americans were worried that if Democrats took the House that they would focus too *much* energy on oversight. It appears that their concerns were well-founded.
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Yes oversight is such a terrible waste! God forbid we should hold those tampering with a national election, conspiring with a foreign adversary, fraud, money laundering, etc. etc. responsible!

The pathetic thing is you would be screaming from the rooftops of just a fraction of this was possible under Obama.
 
Taylor said:
Investigations center around illegality. That means actions, not people. This is why you're so confused about what an investigation centers on.
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So you're back to enumerating investigations based on actions. In that case, when Chris Watts murdered his family, there were at least four investigations, not just one. In most people's usage, what you would call four investigations is really just one investigation (in that case, as an example)--and hence when you say that there have been 1000 investigations of Trump, what you mean is that there have been two or three according to common usage.
 
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