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UC Berkely attack on conservative activist[W:114]

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I do not understand what the picture refers to, Tanngrisnir. It appears from the video (which I cannot hear), that someone was indeed punched in the face in broad daylight and the subject of assault and battery. I think campus authorities should investigate this and have the person who punched the other man arrested and charged with misdemeanor assault and battery. What do you think should happen?
 
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Why is the cameraman just standing there doing nothing?
 
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Why is the cameraman just standing there doing nothing?

To be fair, the fellow who punched the Turning Point Activist(?) is a big guy. Not everyone has the stomach to get into a confrontation with an unhinged violent young man.
 
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I do not understand what the picture refers to, Tanngrisnir. It appears from the video (which I cannot hear), that someone was indeed punched in the face in broad daylight and the subject of assault and battery. I think campus authorities should investigate this and have the person who punched the other man arrested and charged with misdemeanor assault and battery. What do you think should happen?

It's Charlie Kirk, essentially a more clean cut version of James O'Keefe with a preening intellectual veneer. He's been caught numerous times in laughably dishonest statements and quite often, like here, w/out specific context other than what he claims with no substantiation.

He's an agitprop sideshow barker who's job is to sucker rubes.
 
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It's Charlie Kirk, essentially a more clean cut version of James O'Keefe with a preening intellectual veneer. He's been caught numerous times in laughably dishonest statements and quite often, like here, w/out specific context other than what he claims with no substantiation.

He's an agitprop sideshow barker who's job is to sucker rubes.

What context would you like that would excuse assault? Or get you to condemn the assault?
 
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I understand why videos start in the middle of confrontations rather than at the beginning. Because you don’t know there will be a confrontation to record until it starts. Based on the video my guess is the guy who threw the punch will be arrested and charged. But do we know what started it? I get the guy had a MAGA hat but the video starts with the MAGA guy sticking his phone in the other guy’s face. Like, right up in it and blocking his path. I am NOT saying the MAGA guy initiated the confrontation. I just want to know what the puncher did to make the MAGA guy get all up on him.

I would understand shoving someone out of your way who us up on you like that. But that last punch was completely unjustified.
 
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It's Charlie Kirk, essentially a more clean cut version of James O'Keefe with a preening intellectual veneer. He's been caught numerous times in laughably dishonest statements and quite often, like here, w/out specific context other than what he claims with no substantiation.

He's an agitprop sideshow barker who's job is to sucker rubes.

Perhaps. I must admit, I do not know the man, and I have only listened to a couple of Turning Point videos. I do not particularly care for them, as I prefer more intellectually stimulating right-wing conservative commentators (Ben Shapiro, Peter Hitchens, Douglas Murray, etc.). But whatever one thinks of Turning Point and Charlie Kirk, unless the acts in this video were staged, I think this is a recording of a violent criminal offense which I think should be taken seriously and reported to and investigated by the campus police. I hope we can at least agree on that much if nothing else.
 
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What context would you like that would excuse assault? Or get you to condemn the assault?

Given Kirk's over-the-top history of deceit, mischaracterizations and lies? Some source other than Kirk.

You clearly choose to believe con-men. I do not.
 
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Perhaps. I must admit, I do not know the man, and I have only listened to a couple of Turning Point videos. I do not particularly care for them, as I prefer more intellectually stimulating right-wing conservative commentators (Ben Shapiro, Peter Hitchens, Douglas Murray, etc.). But whatever one thinks of Turning Point and Charlie Kirk, unless the acts in this video were staged, I think this is a recording of a violent criminal offense which I think should be taken seriously and reported to and investigated by the campus police. I hope we can at least agree on that much if nothing else.

Let's see if there's actually a police report filed and, if so, what it states. Trusting Kirk to be truthful is like trusting Roy Moore with a 14 year old girl.
 
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The Libbos will excuse this violence, even justify it, just like they always do.
 
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I understand why videos start in the middle of confrontations rather than at the beginning. Because you don’t know there will be a confrontation to record until it starts. Based on the video my guess is the guy who threw the punch will be arrested and charged. But do we know what started it? I get the guy had a MAGA hat but the video starts with the MAGA guy sticking his phone in the other guy’s face. Like, right up in it and blocking his path. I am NOT saying the MAGA guy initiated the confrontation. I just want to know what the puncher did to make the MAGA guy get all up on him.

I would understand shoving someone out of your way who us up on you like that. But that last punch was completely unjustified.

That punch connected. You could just hear it. Ouch.
The video is good and the jerk who threw the punch can clearly be seen. It shouldn't take any time at all to figure out who he is.
I also wonder what happened before the first punch was thrown, but no matter what, the assault was an assault.
 
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Given Kirk's over-the-top history of deceit, mischaracterizations and lies? Some source other than Kirk.

You clearly choose to believe con-men. I do not.

Nothing about my post was a belief or disbelief in what Kirk said. Until this thread I never even heard of the guy. My post to you simply asked you two questions. Neither of which you actually answered. Instead all you did was provide snark with nothing backing up what you actually did say. At least Kirks post had video of an assault. You...have provided nothing.
 
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It's Charlie Kirk, essentially a more clean cut version of James O'Keefe with a preening intellectual veneer. He's been caught numerous times in laughably dishonest statements and quite often, like here, w/out specific context other than what he claims with no substantiation.

He's an agitprop sideshow barker who's job is to sucker rubes.


Cool, so now we can declare open season on Don Lemon, NY Times, HuffPost, Vox and a couple dozen other liberal windbags.


Thanks for letting us know it's ok to commit violence against someone you don't agree with.
 
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Nothing about my post was a belief or disbelief in what Kirk said. Until this thread I never even heard of the guy. My post to you simply asked you two questions. Neither of which you actually answered. Instead all you did was provide snark with nothing backing up what you actually did say. At least Kirks post had video of an assault. You...have provided nothing.

I'm well aware of Kirk's history of huckstermism and lies. You don't seem to be, nor would I imagine would you care to be. Nor do you seem up to the task of understand the simple statement that I'll need to see this reported by someone other than Kirk, given his history.

Since it escaped your notice, Kirk posted a vid of an assault. W/out context of what might have come before, it's meaningless.

If you can't figure that out on your own, it's not my problem.
 
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Cool, so now we can declare open season on Don Lemon, NY Times, HuffPost, Vox and a couple dozen other liberal windbags.

Why would anyone rational think that?
Thanks for letting us know it's ok to commit violence against someone you don't agree with.

I never said that.

Thanks for admitting to your laughable dishonesty.
 
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Why would anyone rational think that?

I never said that.

Thanks for admitting to your laughable dishonesty.

You're excusing violence because it was your political opponent who was the victim.
 
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You're excusing violence because it was your political opponent who was the victim.

No, I'm not, nor can you show where I ever have. Thanks for twice now admitting to your laughable dishonesty.
 
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It's Charlie Kirk, essentially a more clean cut version of James O'Keefe with a preening intellectual veneer. He's been caught numerous times in laughably dishonest statements and quite often, like here, w/out specific context other than what he claims with no substantiation.

He's an agitprop sideshow barker who's job is to sucker rubes.

you once again did not address the actual topic.
so he gets hit in the face should the person that punched him not be arrested for assault?
this is a simple yes or no question.
 
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you once again did not address the actual topic.
so he gets hit in the face should the person that punched him not be arrested for assault?
this is a simple yes or no question.

That was not the actual original topic.

You seem confused by all this.
 
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That was not the actual original topic.

You seem confused by all this.

and as usual you say nothing. thanks for acknowledging that no matter what you
post you never say a thing.
 
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and as usual you say nothing. thanks for acknowledging that no matter what you
post you never say a thing.

Thanks for admitting to your dishonesty as to what the original topic was, your inability to understand it and your refusal to post things based in reality.

I can help you with reading the OP, if you'd like, and I won't charge you a fee this time.
 
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