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Kamala Harris’s dad slams daughter over pot claim

Didn't miss a thing. I don't think Daddy-O speaks for the entire family.

So . . . the rest of the family is OK with stereotypes of Jamaicans as potheads? 'Coz that's what "Daddy-O" was objecting to. I don't think you got that.
 
I dunno' Chill, I'm really old-school in keeping family business in the family. My kids seem to be on-board with my wife & I on this, so I don't think it's so hard to do.

For a average family maybe not. For a family that is trust into the spotlight because a member is looking to run for public office I think it's impossible.
 
For a average family maybe not. For a family that is trust into the spotlight because a member is looking to run for public office I think it's impossible.
Maybe. But I would do my best, And as a father, I really don't think it's so hard to comment in some neutral non-involved way.
 
Dont worry, about a ting daddy. Every lil thing is gonna be alright.


But maybe you SHOULD be worried that she was SO stoned in college that she was hearing Snoop and Tupac 10 years before their first albums dropped.
 
I agree with the first statement, not the second. Right now I'm liking Harris (the daughter), though I must admit after watching Amy Klobuchar's town hall last night, I'm really liking her Midwestern pragmatism!

Klobucher might be a dirty liberal(just can't help myself) but she hasn't gone full throttle crazy like the rest of her colleagues.

An acceptable choice if I was absolutely forced to pick a Dem at gunpoint which means she would probably be appealing to many moderates and independents.
 
Klobucher might be a dirty liberal(just can't help myself) but she hasn't gone full throttle crazy like the rest of her colleagues.

An acceptable choice if I was absolutely forced to pick a Dem at gunpoint which means she would probably be appealing to many moderates and independents.
There really is a thing called, "Midwestern Sensibilities".

It's basically borne of realistic pragmatism. It is relatively conservative, but a sane conservatism. And it values truth, honesty, and deed, over hyperbole and flamboyant words & promises. It's easy to get to like, even if it might seem to come-off as a bit boring.
 
Meh. There's clearly a back story here, some sort of pre-existing family dynamic.

The father essentially opts for a nuclear option to his own daughter who made a joke in a slightly awkward situation.
Yep. That's my bet, too. Stupid move on Kamala's part, but over-reaction on Dad's part.
 
There really is a thing called, "Midwestern Sensibilities".

It's basically borne of realistic pragmatism. It is relatively conservative, but a sane conservatism. And it values truth, honesty, and deed, over hyperbole and flamboyant words & promises. It's easy to get to like, even if it might seem to come-off as a bit boring.

Boring politics; you think we’ll ever get back there?
 
Boring politics; you think we’ll ever get back there?
I would sure like that. But I must say boring is not what I'd ever call the politics of the capital of the Midwest!

But after thinking about it a bit more, beside the typical Midwestern attributes of pragmatism and hard work, if anything defines the Midwestern attitude it's an aversion to B.S. Midwesterners hate B.S.

So - maybe the clock may turn-back on the ultimate B.S. artist, in the Midwest in 2020. I swear after 2 years of Trump, an hour of town-hall with Amy Klobuchar was like a breath of fresh air! (and sanity)
 
I didn't like her even before she lied about listening to Snoop and Tupac before they were a thing. She's just another two-faced neoliberal. Not who I want to win the nomination by a long shot. Booker, Gillibrand, and Klobluchar can kiss my ass too.

I see you already have your Progressive Purity Test up and running.
 
I agree with the first statement, not the second. Right now I'm liking Harris (the daughter), though I must admit after watching Amy Klobuchar's town hall last night, I'm really liking her Midwestern pragmatism!

My Democratic dream team would be Amy Klobuchar with Cory Booker as VP. A down-to-earth Moderate with a Charismatic progressive; win-win!

I've admired Klobuchar for a long time, ever since someone here told me I should take a look at her a couple of years back; I did, and I liked what I saw.

P.S. I'm not a Harris fan, and hope I'm not forced to vote for her, lol.
 
I see you already have your Progressive Purity Test up and running.

There are perfectly good, progressive candidates in the running that don't have sketchy records. Bernie Sanders broke the record for small-dollar donations on the first day, so don't give me this ****. We don't need to settle in order to beat Donald Trump, and in fact, just as last time, we would actually be undercutting our chances of winning in the general.

Purity test? You mean standards?

Opinion | Kamala Harris Was Not a ‘Progressive Prosecutor’ - The New York Times
 
My Democratic dream team would be Amy Klobuchar with Cory Booker as VP. A down-to-earth Moderate with a Charismatic progressive; win-win!

I've admired Klobuchar for a long time, ever since someone here told me I should take a look at her a couple of years back; I did, and I liked what I saw.

P.S. I'm not a Harris fan, and hope I'm not forced to vote for her, lol.
I was taken by Harris' coming-out. She came across as a blend of Obama-like with a heavy dose of Bernie policy facets. And she was a charmer! But as we see here, we don't know how Harris will wear in the long run.

So yeah, Amy Klobuchar looks pretty good to me. As Dems, I think we're all wrestling with the quandary of whether we need to embrace the new Left and prevail by liberal turnout & enthusiasm, or to tack more center and prevail by securing the largest sector of the country.

I've always believed in compromise, moderation, and broad appeal, as the way forward. But lately, I don't know. It seems like driving enthusiasm from the voices usually not heard on the edges, has been successful. And we saw Hillary's dismal failure, though I believe that was heavily caused by Hillary being a disliked candidate. Biden, even while of similar Dem cloth as HRC, would have likely prevailed.

So with all the anti-Trump sentiments about, I'm thinking a moderate like Klobuchar would take many of the Indie moderates that Trump needs, while (hopefully) still generating good Dem base turnout due to Trump hate. But that's a dangerous gambit, as the House Blue Wave came about by the many new and harder Left candidates that were successful. Of course that Blue Wave tact may turn-off some of the Indie moderates! It's quite the quandary, and the stakes are high!

But Klobuchar has two large & distinct things going for her:

1] In terms of Electoral College analysis, she would play extremely well in the Midwestern states that Trump must win in order to prevail. These are the same states that while usually Dem, broke for Trump in the same manner of the old Regan Democrats. However, quite a few of these states' Dems seem to have flipped-back, as evidenced by the recent Blue Wave. I believe there's enough Trump disgust in these states to put them in the Dem column this coming election. Amy would pretty much make it a lock, IMO. If there's anything traditional and old-school Midwesterners despise, it's lies and bull****! Which leads me too ...

2] Amy's pragmatic realism and honest words. My God, she would be the diametric opposite of Trump! The contrast would be startling! It would make for some great debates, I think. And it would be a referendum on whether the country wants to believe Trump's hyperbolic, combative, adversarial, bombastic pie-in-the-sky often delusional rhetoric. Or have we grown tired & weary of it, and want a dose of civil, unifying, pragmatic, factual reality?

Oh, my dream team? It's not formulated at all, but now I'm thinking of Klobuchar on top, with Sherrod Brown as VP. Or even perhaps vis-a-versa (switch their order). That would sew-up the Midwest for sure, and hopefully bring Ohio around too.
 
Aren't you the person that called Tulsi Gabbard a DINO?

Gabbard passes your purity test, doesn't she?
 
There are perfectly good, progressive candidates in the running that don't have sketchy records. Bernie Sanders broke the record for small-dollar donations on the first day, so don't give me this ****.

I see I touched a nerve. :lol: Tell me, what are the checkboxes on your progressive purity test? Single-payer healthcare? Tuition-free college? Acknowledging that the top percent of all the percent have more percent than the remaining percent of the percent? Something like that?
 
I see I touched a nerve. :lol: Tell me, what are the checkboxes on your progressive purity test? Single-payer healthcare? Tuition-free college? Acknowledging that the top percent of all the percent have more percent than the remaining percent of the percent? Something like that?

If a candidate waivers over any of these issues, then there's a reason for that. All of these positions are popular enough that there's no reason that a candidate shouldn't enthusiastically support all of them. I'm not going round two with Obama. Instead of electing a punching-bag for the right, we're going to elect someone who'll shift the political spectrum back towards the left, bringing even the Republican party back to a position of sanity.

You can snicker about checkboxes and purity tests all you want, but my guy is going to win, and there isn't much reason to think otherwise. There's absolutely no reason to compromise at all, doing so would actually harm our chances of winning, and we would miss out on a chance to stop a vicious right-ward spiral that might persist well beyond any of our lives if we let it.

Please get back with me if I turn out to be wrong. We only need to lose the primary for that to be the case, and then I'll eat my hat.

Regardless, I will be voting for the nominee this time. I'll even hold my nose for Cory Booker if it comes down to it.
 
There are perfectly good, progressive candidates in the running that don't have sketchy records. Bernie Sanders broke the record for small-dollar donations on the first day, so don't give me this ****. We don't need to settle in order to beat Donald Trump, and in fact, just as last time, we would actually be undercutting our chances of winning in the general.

Purity test? You mean standards?

You realize Bernie has his own scandals right?
 
You realize Bernie has his own scandals right?

Well, for one thing, I was talking about policy substance and voting records, which is the bottom line for me. When it comes to Kamala Harris, I'm far more appalled by what she did as a prosecutor than the fact that she obviously and wierdly lied to the Breakfast Club.

For another, mainstream media tried to bend over backwards to smear the guy, and they're going to do it again. WaPo ran four hit-pieces in a single day. Sanders is a consistent broken record, and has proven over and over and over again that he has the backbone and integrity to fight for the American people. I don't have time for anyone who talks out of both ends of their mouth.

So what's your favorite scandal? Hopefully you aren't fixated on the fact that a United States senator who must reside in two states and who's wife inherited a home owns three, because that isn't even news.
 
Well, for one thing, I was talking about policy substance and voting records, which is the bottom line for me.

For another, mainstream media tried to bend over backwards to smear the guy, and they're going to do it again. WaPo ran four hit-pieces in a single day.

So what's your favorite scandal? Hopefully you aren't fixated on the fact that a United States senator who must reside in two states and who's wife inherited a home owns three, because that isn't even news.

Bernie has two things going against him. One being a democratic socialist. The other being the 2016 campaign sexual harassment scandal.

While the majority of Americans do not understand what a Democratic Socialist is, they still equate it to socialist. That's one stigma right there.

The other is the sexual harassment scandal that happened in his campaign. While he was not part of it, the #metoo movement is going to have trouble with it.

I have no doubt Sanders is popular enough to take the Dem nomination, but he isn't going to be viable in the general election IMO and will just solidify Trump's base and those that hate the socialist tag.

I personally wouldn't mind seeing Bernie as president, but I just don't think he'll get there.
 
Gabbard passes your purity test, doesn't she?

No, as I don't like most of her domestic policies. I overlook those flaws however due to her strong antiwar sentiment. If I were a Progressive ,then absolutely as she pretty much checks every box you could want as a politician.
 
recall barbara bush was not high on dubya running, recognizing jeb had better qualities for the job
wonder if prof harris holds similar views about his daughter's limitations, or is he fearful of being eclipsed by her ... or is this a response to the sting he had to have felt after the media focused on kamala's sexual relationship with willie brown

as a proponent of legalization, i applaud kamala's stand. her reference to jamaica was innocuous and its being viewed as a cannabis haven is long standing
if she is the demo candidate, then tRump stands a good chance of re-election

the thread went off tangent in its discussion of sweet senator amy. i will continue that diversion:
“I’ve always been taught that your true character shows in how you treat those with less power than you, especially behind closed doors,” one former staffer said in a BuzzFeed report published Friday. “The way Sen. Klobuchar behaves in private with her staff is very different than when she’s in the public eye, and that kind of cruelty shouldn’t be acceptable for anyone.”
... at least three people had turned down the opportunity to manage Klobuchar’s campaign due to her reputation for cruelty and repeated emotional abuse.
Klobuchar’s alleged temper was not unknown in Washington. Last year, The New York Times noted that, “On Capitol Hill, Ms. Klobuchar’s reputation is not all sweetness and light.” A March 2018 article in Politico described Klobuchar as among the “worst bosses in Congress,” with the highest office turnover rate in the Senate. But the new details reported by BuzzFeed and the Huffington Post, if true, are particularly damning. BuzzFeed reviewed e-mails, often sent between 1 and 4 in the morning, in which Klobuchar “regularly berated employees, often in all capital letters, over minor mistakes, misunderstandings, and misplaced commas. Klobuchar, in the e-mails, which were mostly sent over the past few years, referred to her staff’s work as ‘the worst in . . . years,’ and ‘the worst in my life.’”
... multiple sources alleged that Klobuchar’s mistreatment of office staff began more than a decade ago, and that in 2015, then Senate minority leader Harry Reid told her privately that she had to change her behavior.
having worked for someone of a similar personality, there is no way i could support klobuchar; however, she is the current front runner for my wife's 2020 vote

Terrified Aides Say Amy Klobuchar Is Just Like Trump | Vanity Fair
 
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