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McCabe: DoJ Held Meetings to Discuss Removing Trump Under the 25th Amendment After Comey's Firing

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McCabe says these talks went pretty far, and that they were picking out cabinent members who may or may not be "with us," which is pretty strong language and could be compared to either with the country or against it...

Andrew McCabe, the former deputy director of the FBI, has reportedly claimed that there were meetings in the Justice Department following James Comey's firing where officials discussed whether it was possible to remove Donald Trump from the presidency using the 25th Amendment.

McCabe is the first person who was involved in the meeting to admit that it happened on the record—Rod Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, previously denied a report from the New York Times that he discussed recruiting cabinet members to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove Trump.
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Trumps also afraid of losing elections.

McCabe: DoJ Held Meetings to Discuss Removing Trump Under the 25th Amendment After Comey's Firing
 
NeverTrump said:
McCabe says these talks went pretty far, and that they were picking out cabinent members who may or may not be "with us," which is pretty strong language and could be compared to either with the country or against it...



Trumps also afraid of losing elections.

McCabe: DoJ Held Meetings to Discuss Removing Trump Under the 25th Amendment After Comey's Firing
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So if we are to assume (and you know the "ass-u-me" saying) that this report is correct, then it would appear true that some members of the "cabal" who opposed Trump's election were even more pro-active in trying to undermine his Presidency than we thought.

You seem to think this is a "good thing," when if taken along with the other evidence of "resistance" like the constant "leaking" by "former and current" officials, the stonewalling of the new Administration's policy efforts, and the "Insurance Policy" weaponizing "Russian interference" into an ongoing "collusion investigation" by these same "usual suspects," merely shows that Trump was correct about such conspiracies all along.
 
Captain Adverse said:
So if we are to assume (and you know the "ass-u-me" saying) that this report is correct, then it would appear true that some members of the "cabal" who opposed Trump's election were even more pro-active in trying to undermine his Presidency than we thought.

You seem to think this is a "good thing," when if taken along with the other evidence of "resistance" like the constant "leaking" by "former and current" officials, the stonewalling of the new Administration's policy efforts, and the "Insurance Policy" weaponizing "Russian interference" into an ongoing "collusion investigation" by these same "usual suspects," merely shows the Trump was correct all along.
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Oy Vey, Auto-Defend Trump deflectors full power mode still huh captain? Yes, I do think it's a good thing that the highest levels of American intelligence communities discussed whether or not the President is mentally unfit for office.
 
NeverTrump said:
Oy Vey, Auto-Defend Trump deflectors full power mode still huh captain? Yes, I do think it's a good thing that the highest levels of American intelligence communities discussed whether or not the President is mentally unfit for office.
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Can't accept the reality of what many of us (including myself) have been arguing all along? That some people were so shocked and upset by his unexpected victory via "cheating" the system that the only solution in their minds was to "set things straight" by undermining his Presidency by any means necessary?

So Trump wasn't as "paranoid" as your side always alleged, as it is becoming more and more clear that there was a cabal of government officials trying to get him out of office by hook or crook from day one. :coffeepap:
 
Captain Adverse said:
Can't accept the reality of what many of us (including myself) have been arguing all along? That some people were so shocked and upset by his unexpected victory via "cheating" the system that the only solution in their minds was to "set things straight" by undermining his Presidency by any means necessary?

So Trump wasn't as "paranoid" as your side always alleged, as it is becoming more and more clear that there was a cabal of government officials trying to get him out of office by hook or crook from day one. :coffeepap:
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You are failing to see the reasons WHY b/c of your blind auto-defense.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Can't accept the reality of what many of us (including myself) have been arguing all along? That some people were so shocked and upset by his unexpected victory via "cheating" the system that the only solution in their minds was to "set things straight" by undermining his Presidency by any means necessary?

So Trump wasn't as "paranoid" as your side always alleged, as it is becoming more and more clear that there was a cabal of government officials trying to get him out of office by hook or crook from day one. :coffeepap:
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Not so paranoid about "spying" on him. The fake dossier used for the FISA warrant supports his claim everyone on the Left laughed at. The "insurance policy" was obviously the cabal's attempt to get Trump thrown out of office.
Rosenstein wearing a wire wasn't just a joke.
How is that not treason?
 
Acadia said:
Not so paranoid about "spying" on him. The fake dossier used for the FISA warrant supports his claim everyone on the Left laughed at. The "insurance policy" was obviously the cabal's attempt to get Trump thrown out of office.
Rosenstein wearing a wire wasn't just a joke.
How is that not treason?
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The US government is not a cabal...:roll:
 
NeverTrump said:
McCabe says these talks went pretty far, and that they were picking out cabinent members who may or may not be "with us," which is pretty strong language and could be compared to either with the country or against it...



Trumps also afraid of losing elections.

McCabe: DoJ Held Meetings to Discuss Removing Trump Under the 25th Amendment After Comey's Firing
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I don’t care whether anyone likes or hates Trump, or any other legitimately elected President, but this is a truly frightening scenario if it’s true.
 
NeverTrump said:
The US government is not a cabal...:roll:
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Cute rolly eyeballs, but I didn't say that the government was a cabal. The FBI's top brass was, until Trump's administration, Congress and the IG weeded them out.
 
Moon said:
I don’t care whether anyone likes or hates Trump, or any other legitimately elected President, but this is a truly frightening scenario if it’s true.
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It's like the Left doesn't have the ability to see around corners. Do the really think this can't work the other way? I wonder if they realize that if Hillary won, she would continue Obama's policy of doing nothing about Russian meddling. We'd be none the wiser.
 
NeverTrump said:
Oy Vey, Auto-Defend Trump deflectors full power mode still huh captain? Yes, I do think it's a good thing that the highest levels of American intelligence communities discussed whether or not the President is mentally unfit for office.
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That was exactly what I was thinking , all enemies foreign and domestic...

And remember these people have Intel that no one else has seen.

Hell the CIA was warning allies not to share top secret info as trump was compromised...
 
Moon said:
I don’t care whether anyone likes or hates Trump, or any other legitimately elected President, but this is a truly frightening scenario if it’s true.
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Why is it frightening?

From what I gather, this is a completely constitutional process, and it was only "discussed". It's not like the DOJ sat in a room and thought up some extra-judicial or unconstitutional method of removing a president. Also, the 25th amendment requires 2/3's vote of the senate and a majority of his own cabinet along with the VP if I'm not mistaken. I'm just not sure why you think this is frightening. If a majority of a presidents cabinet, overwhelming majority of the senate and his own vice president thinks a president is unable to perform his duties, we can be pretty damn sure that he's unable.
 
NeverTrump said:
McCabe says these talks went pretty far, and that they were picking out cabinent members who may or may not be "with us," which is pretty strong language and could be compared to either with the country or against it...



Trumps also afraid of losing elections.

McCabe: DoJ Held Meetings to Discuss Removing Trump Under the 25th Amendment After Comey's Firing
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McCabe is facing charges and is trying to dump it on Rod Roseinstein who already said "I was just kidding"... either way what was being discussed was intelligence agencies going around DoJ to run their own little operation through the FBI on behalf of the Clinton operation.

This is the basics of a coup: Unauthorized agencies using their influence to undermine or otherwise veto the presidential choice the voters made.

I can see a case made for the death penalty if this turn out to be as bad as it appears. It is too damn easy for the surveillance state to steal our freedom.
 
Moon said:
I don’t care whether anyone likes or hates Trump, or any other legitimately elected President, but this is a truly frightening scenario if it’s true.
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No it isn't, I expect our agencies that are aware of a threat to the nation to discuss options...
 
Acadia said:
It's like the Left doesn't have the ability to see around corners. Do the really think this can't work the other way? I wonder if they realize that if Hillary won, she would continue Obama's policy of doing nothing about Russian meddling. We'd be none the wiser.
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Her State Department was a money funnel for the Clinton Foundation, and if she was president it would have been even grander. Never mind the obvious pay for play aspect of doing business with Hillary's America.
 
roughdraft274 said:
Why is it frightening?

From what I gather, this is a completely constitutional process, and it was only "discussed". It's not like the DOJ sat in a room and thought up some extra-judicial or unconstitutional method of removing a president. Also, the 25th amendment requires 2/3's vote of the senate and a majority of his own cabinet along with the VP if I'm not mistaken. I'm just not sure why you think this is frightening. If a majority of a presidents cabinet, overwhelming majority of the senate and his own vice president thinks a president is unable to perform his duties, we can be pretty damn sure that he's unable.
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It’s frightening because you have a group of unelected officials deciding whether a legitimate election should be allowed to stand, with no proven rationale for their actions. Unless you can show otherwise, I don’t think the 25th amendment was passed as a means to thwart a national election.
 
Moon said:
It’s frightening because you have a group of unelected officials deciding whether a legitimate election should be allowed to stand, with no proven rationale for their actions. Unless you can show otherwise, I don’t think the 25th amendment was passed as a means to thwart a national election.
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Exactly, and Democrats will again attempt to circumvent the Legislative branch and the Constitution and have the Judiciary issue fiats from the bench.
 
Moon said:
It’s frightening because you have a group of unelected officials deciding whether a legitimate election should be allowed to stand, with no proven rationale for their actions. Unless you can show otherwise, I don’t think the 25th amendment was passed as a means to thwart a national election.
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No, it was passed to keep Americans safe from an unsafe President.

Why should our intelligence agencies not have a say in it?
 
Calling to incite violence, demonizing political opponents and celebrating calls to throw them in jail, lying to the public, sleazing his way into massive personal profits thanks to his new office, clear delusions of grandeur and loss of cognitive function.

The 25th ought to be invoked, he needs to go.
 
Acadia said:
Exactly, and Democrats will again attempt to circumvent the Legislative branch and the Constitution and have the Judiciary issue fiats from the bench.
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Um you are aware the 25th amendment IS a legislative process correct?

The FBI were doing their jobs, they were so concerned about what they had found in their investigation that they discussed the option of turning it over to congress.

Instead they chose to continue the investigation...
 
So in summary ... a guy who lied, has political connections, was fired, whom charges were recommended be brought against, and is promoting his book about it, says he and some high level DOJ officials wanted to break the law because they had a feeling a President might have some inappropriate connections even though we can see now it's looking like there was no there there ... they're all prescient heroes of some sort?
 
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