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Trump mocking Ford proves his indecency knows no bounds

Kavanaugh's former classmates in HS and college can corroborate that he lied about his excessive drinking and partying. Ford's claim is that he was staggering drunk at a pre-party gathering.


https://www.thecut.com/2018/10/fbi-report-interview-kavanaugh-classmates.html


Does Kavanaugh have anyone that can corroborate that he was virgin in HS and college?

really-so Kavanaugh admits he was a drinker in college. He claimed he wasn't trashed every night (how do you get the grades to get into Yale Law as a white male in the 80s if you aren't studying constantly) and he never passed out. Some leftwing classmates of his said he was trashed frequently. One-a left wing female admitted he never abused women though

so it isn't a case where he said "I never got drunk" and they said-"he was drunk frequently"

rather its OPINIONS as to heavy drinking. Nothing to see, move on
 
You been watching too much FAUX News. The [G]as [O]verconsumption [P]arty has you over a barrel.

How would you know what news station I watch, or that I even bother to watch any of the so called news media? More oblivious assumptions because someone said something you didn't like - (though the most honest reporting does seem to come from Fox as compared to the other Fake news media).
 
You're omitting the high lights deliberately?
 
So if Trump recites testimony of a fraud then you view that as indecent? Sorry that the truth hurts you so much.
 
really-so Kavanaugh admits he was a drinker in college. He claimed he wasn't trashed every night (how do you get the grades to get into Yale Law as a white male in the 80s if you aren't studying constantly) and he never passed out. Some leftwing classmates of his said he was trashed frequently. One-a left wing female admitted he never abused women though

so it isn't a case where he said "I never got drunk" and they said-"he was drunk frequently"

rather its OPINIONS as to heavy drinking. Nothing to see, move on

And yet as an attorney you are perfectly well aware that lay witnesses are able to testify to whether someone appeared drunk to them and what they did. This is because we all know what drunkenness looks like. That kind of "opinion" isn't invalid because it's just an opinion. It's valid because no matter what tolerance someone has, once they are slurring their words and stumbling, they are generally agreed to be drunk. That's just what it means.

I will say: shame on the Dems for focusing on the terms "black out" and "pass out". That was stupid. It gave people outs to defend. Some people use "black out" to mean the whole night, but most mean it to refer to part of a night. An out: maybe he thought he was answering a question about not remembering an entire night (I actually did that with an entire day and never touched that again).

Some people use "pass out" to mean I'm going to go to my room to sleep on my bed because I'm too ****ed to enjoy this anymore. Others use it to mean literally falling over unconscious due to alcoholc toxicity. An out: maybe he thought it meant collapse to the floor spontaneously.

Screw all that.



The bottom line is that he presented himself as a student focused on school and athletics, who only sometimes drank "too many beers". The people who drank with him present him as someone who pretty much always drank too many beers, to the point of slurring and stumbling regularly. Is that a literal "black out"? A figurative one? I don't know and I don't care. I watched the hearing - I'll have to make up that time this Sunday, I think - and my impression is that he revealed too much partisanship and too much defensive dishonesty.

This did not happen with Gorsuch. It would've been so easy to get another conservative.

I really cannot fathom how you go about accusing all sorts of people of suffering from "TDS", yet base your defense of Kavanaugh's drinking on stuff like "Some leftwing classmates" say.

And what on earth is it supposed to mean that "One-a left wing female admitted he never abused women though"? How does someone else "admit" that another person never did a particular bad thing, unless perhaps they've been attached with a literal five foot rope for the entirety of their lives?





If you want to say you don't care about under-reporting drinking, or you don't care about partisan attacks if you agree with them, or you want more evidence to see someone not confirmed, fine. I think those are wrong positions but they are at least rational because they are based on things happening and a personal opinion of irrelevance in light of some other goal.

But, acting like this whole thing is a big sham, that she told lies just to *get* Kavanaugh (inexplicably, now, not then, not when he was on D.C. Cir, not other times), that the Dems are conspiring to *get* Kavanaugh (when this didn't happen with Gorsuch), .....that's irrational.

Of course the Dems were going to use it. That doesn't mean she's lying. Yes, it's decades later. That doesn't mean she's lying. Yes, she cannot remember a lot. But according to the experts I always have to read about, the only thing such a victim can really be expected to remember is that what and the who. (And no, I don't like it in criminal trials....but it seems to be what the "experts" say....in every ****ing case).
 
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https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/409740-trump-mocking-ford-proves-his-indecency-knows-no-bounds

President Donald Trump sank to a new low Tuesday night. During a rally, he mocked Christine Blasey Ford, the woman who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault and attempted rape when the two were teenagers in high school.

Trump’s presidency has been made up mostly of low points, cringe-worthy moments and embarrassing statements and actions, so it is easy to dismiss Trump’s mockery of an alleged sexual assault victim as par for the course. But we cannot.

Trump was not merely “stating facts” as press secretary Sarah Sanders unconvincingly tried to spin. Trump was denigrating and diminishing Ford’s experience as an alleged sexual assault survivor, and it is a slap in the face of every woman and man who has experienced the fear, guilt and shame of surviving a sexual assault.
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This guy is not worthy of his job.

The way the Democrats abused Ford and her story shows that their indecency knows no bounds. I guess "resist at all costs."
 
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/409740-trump-mocking-ford-proves-his-indecency-knows-no-bounds

President Donald Trump sank to a new low Tuesday night. During a rally, he mocked Christine Blasey Ford, the woman who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault and attempted rape when the two were teenagers in high school.

Trump’s presidency has been made up mostly of low points, cringe-worthy moments and embarrassing statements and actions, so it is easy to dismiss Trump’s mockery of an alleged sexual assault victim as par for the course. But we cannot.

Trump was not merely “stating facts” as press secretary Sarah Sanders unconvincingly tried to spin. Trump was denigrating and diminishing Ford’s experience as an alleged sexual assault survivor, and it is a slap in the face of every woman and man who has experienced the fear, guilt and shame of surviving a sexual assault.
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This guy is not worthy of his job.
He should be a Democrat.
 
The bottom line is that he presented himself as a student focused on school and athletics, who only sometimes drank "too many beers". The people who drank with him present him as someone who pretty much always drank too many beers, to the point of slurring and stumbling regularly. Is that a literal "black out"? A figurative one?
This did not happen with Gorsuch. It would've been so easy to get another conservative.


Note: Gorsuch, also known as somewhat conservative, is also a Georgetown Prep alumnus, I think a year behind Kavanaugh.
It's not because of class envy or preppie hatred, or even because of Georgetown's well known reputation AS A HAVEN FOR entitled pricks who get away with far too much.
It could be, but if those were the only metrics, Gorsuch would have been run through the same wringer.
Gorsuch didn't have a personal reputation following him around like that.
It's even possible that Gorsuch would have probably made it through much stricter schools like Sidwell or Bullis and never gotten into trouble.

Gorsuch wasn't known as a belligerent untreated blackout drunk.

My hope is that Kavanaugh seeks treatment for his alcoholism. If he intends to apply his best efforts and intentions to the SCOTUS, he's going to need to. Alcoholism doesn't suddenly get better, it often gets worse, and without anybody doing anything, it's possible we might see Kavanaugh do himself in without any outside help.
 
Remember a couple months ago, the Republicans were crowing about what happened to civility and now it's okay to mock possible rape victims.

Rape victim? Ford was a rape victim? News to me. And how did he mock her, for her claims of not remembering, by repeating her words? Mock away, Mr. President!
 
The way the Democrats abused Ford and her story shows that their indecency knows no bounds. I guess "resist at all costs."

Could you perhaps please consider responding to detailed point-by-point arguments rather than making a declaration and no more?

For example, post 56
 
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/409740-trump-mocking-ford-proves-his-indecency-knows-no-bounds

President Donald Trump sank to a new low Tuesday night. During a rally, he mocked Christine Blasey Ford, the woman who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault and attempted rape when the two were teenagers in high school.

Trump’s presidency has been made up mostly of low points, cringe-worthy moments and embarrassing statements and actions, so it is easy to dismiss Trump’s mockery of an alleged sexual assault victim as par for the course. But we cannot.

Trump was not merely “stating facts” as press secretary Sarah Sanders unconvincingly tried to spin. Trump was denigrating and diminishing Ford’s experience as an alleged sexual assault survivor, and it is a slap in the face of every woman and man who has experienced the fear, guilt and shame of surviving a sexual assault.
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This guy is not worthy of his job.

Ford's indecency at leveling false charges for political gain knows no bounds.
 
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