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WaPo: Mark Judge’s Former Girlfriend Wants To Chat With FBI, Senate Judiciary

Anyone can volunteer information to the FBI, They don't have to wauit to be asked. Let's hope there are plenty more of Kavanaugh's victims NOT on the WH list willing to come forward.
 
Moot said:
If she's lying to the FBI she could get charged with perjury and up to five years in prison. The main point of having the FBI do the interviews is so witnesses would think twice before lying. Besides, I think Trump's mandate for the investigation is limited in scope to the incident itself.
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That's only during a criminal investigation.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Anyone can volunteer information to the FBI, They don't have to wauit to be asked. Let's hope there are plenty more of Kavanaugh's victims NOT on the WH list willing to come forward.
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They would have, by now; if they actually existed.
 
Logician Man said:
But what about RAMOSS's 'statement of fact' that Kavanaugh lied under oath about the legal drinking age.You seem to have dodged that,which was the core question he asked.
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It's "immaterial". Hence, it isn't "perjury".
 
RAMOSS said:
I see you are dismissive, yet you can't actually respond to the point. Kavanaugh committed perjury. He lied under oath. No matter how you try to white wash it, that's a fact.
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I've scoured Left wing sites and I came up with WaPo's analysis.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...ughs-sworn-testimony-was-misleading-or-wrong/

1) So exactly how did he perjur himself ? He was wrong about the drinking age in Maryland ? BFD

2) He called bout Feinsten for sitting on the Letter for 6 weeks and Feinsten said it was because Ford wanted to remain anonymous ?
Sorry, that's Feinsten lying, not Kavanugh. You don't take a ****ing like detector test and hire a resistance attorney if you intended to stay anonymous

3) Witnesses said he drank heavily and was inebriated often ? Two of his Girlfriends have come out and countered that claim.

4) He never attended a party like that ? There's no evidence he's lying about that either. For such a inebreated party animal there should be photos and first hand witness accounts

5) The renate alumni ? Kavanugh claimed it didn't refer to sex and that she was admired and part of the group. The media jumped on a poem written by another student in the year book and claimed Kavanugh lied
Yes, good luck with that
 
Manc Skipper said:
Anyone can volunteer information to the FBI, They don't have to wauit to be asked. Let's hope there are plenty more of Kavanaugh's victims NOT on the WH list willing to come forward.
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:lamo. Right, good luck with that. The idiot that submitted a letter to the Senate Judiciary Commitee claiming Kavanugh and Judge raped a girl on a boat in Maryland has been referred to the DOJ

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You DO realize it's against the law to knowingly submit false information to the FBI and Senate Judiciary Commitee, don't you ?
 
Kal'Stang said:
1: Hot air. That alone is worth dismissing it.

2: Even if true...Before believing an ex we should probably determine if their breakup was cordial or not. If no, I'd say that we dismiss the charge as pettiness.
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Wow. :shock:

It's like you're trying to confirm every bad stereotype of men when it comes to women who are sexually assaulted and/or raped, but whose claims aren't taken seriously.

"If she didn't have a cordial breakup, she's a lying bitch out for revenge for a long ago hurt.... "
 
Kal'Stang said:
A friend won't necessarily lie for another friend. A jilted lover often tends to hold grudges and chances are much higher that they'd be willing to lie just to get back at the one that jilted them.
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I'm assuming you can back that up with some evidence, versus - "women are in general lying bitches - can't trust em."

FWIW, if Judge confirms the story, he's admitting to participating in sexual assault. Do criminals tend to admit their wrongdoing? If we're talking about trends and stereotypes, seems like that's relevant.
 
Media_Truth said:
Ford claims that Mark Judge was in the bedroom, while Kavanaugh assaulted Ford. Judge claimed that he doesn't recall the incident. How reliable are Mark Judge's comments?

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/09...r-girlfriend-wants-chat-fbi-senate-judiciary/

After seeing Judge’s denial, Elizabeth Rasor, who met Judge at Catholic University and was in a relationship with him for about three years, said that she felt morally obligated to challenge his account that “ ‘no horseplay’ took place at Georgetown Prep with women.”
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Rasor recalled that Judge had told her ashamedly of an incident that involved him and other boys taking turns having sex with a drunk woman. Rasor said that Judge seemed to regard it as fully consensual.
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The aide added that this raises further question about why “Mark Judge is hiding out in Bethany Beach and Republicans refuse to call him as a witness.”

Mark Judge is fair game for the FBI probe.
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Mark Judge may well have done many things that didnt involve Kavanaugh. So unless this former girlfriend has something linking Kavanugh to Ford, she really has nothing of any interest.
 
Mark Judge is not the appointee, is he?

So in addition to abandoning the core human right of a presumption of innocence, Democrats now want to institutionalize guilt by association.

Maybe it would make sense to have this all heard in another country that has legal standards the Democratic Party demands such as North Korea.
 
Kal'Stang said:
As well it should be.

And jilted lovers don't always care about consequences. Jilted lovers have been known to kill before...which carries a far heavier penalty than 5 years.
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Rapists don't always care about the consequences because they're so rarely prosecuted to conviction. Part of that is rapists almost always lie about it.
 
I wonder how much this claimed ex girlfriend of Mark Judge can make on Go Fund Me? There is some serious money to be made making accusations against Kavanaugh - possibly as high as 7 figures and definitely 6 figure territory.

Some guy who is REALLY clever who knew Kavanaugh then could claim that Kavanaugh tried to rape HIM - and play the gay pity card - and easily pick up half a million on Go Fund Me.
 
joko104 said:
I wonder how much this claimed ex girlfriend of Mark Judge can make on Go Fund Me? There is some serious money to be made making accusations against Kavanaugh - possibly as high as 7 figures and definitely 6 figure territory.

Some guy who is REALLY clever who knew Kavanaugh then could claim that Kavanaugh tried to rape HIM - and play the gay pity card - and easily pick up half a million on Go Fund Me.
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Cool. Why don't you try it and see how it goes!
 
Media_Truth said:
Ford claims that Mark Judge was in the bedroom, while Kavanaugh assaulted Ford. Judge claimed that he doesn't recall the incident. How reliable are Mark Judge's comments?

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/09...r-girlfriend-wants-chat-fbi-senate-judiciary/

After seeing Judge’s denial, Elizabeth Rasor, who met Judge at Catholic University and was in a relationship with him for about three years, said that she felt morally obligated to challenge his account that “ ‘no horseplay’ took place at Georgetown Prep with women.”
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Rasor recalled that Judge had told her ashamedly of an incident that involved him and other boys taking turns having sex with a drunk woman. Rasor said that Judge seemed to regard it as fully consensual.
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The aide added that this raises further question about why “Mark Judge is hiding out in Bethany Beach and Republicans refuse to call him as a witness.”

Mark Judge is fair game for the FBI probe.
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So what do her allegations have to do with Kavanaugh?
 
AlphaOmega said:
Its his sworn statement under penalty of felony. If your sworn statement under oath isnt testimony what is it?
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Speaking of which, wtf is "under penalty of felony." Never heard the term before, and several lawyers also seem baffled. Sounds made up.

If you want to make a sworn statement, they typical way is with an affidavit.
 
JasperL said:
Speaking of which, wtf is "under penalty of felony." Never heard the term before, and several lawyers also seem baffled. Sounds made up.

If you want to make a sworn statement, they typical way is with an affidavit.
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it means under penalty of perjury. Lying to congress is a felony.
 
Kal'Stang said:
If a jilted lover is willing to kill because of a perceived wrong, why wouldn't a jilted lover be willing to lie and possibly go to prison for it for a perceived wrong?
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I haven't read her biography but my impression so far is that she is not a jilted lover but rather just a concerned citizen that is willing to talk to the FBI.
 
Kal'Stang said:
1: Part of determining if the person is truthful is finding out if she has a reason to lie. Being a jilted lover is a possibility.

2: No where did I ever say that a scorned woman is always a liar. That is your own biased assumption due to your belief that anyone that says anything negative of a woman is automatically a misogynist.
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The WA Post, the source mentioned by Hot Air in Post #1 quoted that "Rasor did not make any allegations about Kavanaugh." That tells me her issues are with Judge and not with Kavanaugh.
 
JasperL said:
Speaking of which, wtf is "under penalty of felony." Never heard the term before, and several lawyers also seem baffled. Sounds made up.

If you want to make a sworn statement, they typical way is with an affidavit.
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You've been arguing for days over the truthfulness of Kavanaugh's witnesses, and you haven't bothered to inform yourself that the three witnesses submitted letters to the senate judiciary under the penalty of perjury? Seriously??? :lol:
 
bearpoker said:
You're making assumptions without knowing any facts. You don't know if she was "jilted". She might have broken up with him. You don't know if she is vengeful. It's possible she just got on with her life like a normal person. Instead of waiting for actual facts, you paint her as a villain in a paperback horror novel.
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I never said she was. I said it should be looked into as it could be a possibility and motive for lying.
 
AlphaOmega said:
it means under penalty of perjury. Lying to congress is a felony.
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"Says who?" Career lawyers say they've never heard of the term.

Lying to Congress can be a crime, if it's material, etc. so it's not clear what that statement adds. Likely nothing at all - just a made up term, for what purpose I can't guess.
 
Kreton said:
So far we have established any women who may or may not have drank beer are not credible.
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Never said that. Though it is interesting that Kavanaugh is being reamed and questioned about his drinking habits while Ms. Fords drinking habits are being ignored.

Kreton said:
If they fail to remember address they are not credible.
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Never said this either.

Kreton said:
If a woman drinks a beer she cannot be sexually assaulted.
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Never said this.

Kreton said:
If a woman has ever had a restraining order put against her it is impossible for her to be raped.
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Never said this.

Kreton said:
Now if they've ever broken up with a man they are not credible.
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Never said this either.

Kreton said:
It sounds like you new breed of right wingers simply think women just need to keep their mouths shut. Anything they say will be immediately dismissed because of really dumb reasons.
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Sounds like you need to actually listen, hear, and understand what is being said instead of making up your own BS.
 
noonereal said:
It was your first assumption. That is a pattern of thinking that is a fallacy of logic. Now you are deflecting.
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No, it was my first question. A valid one whether you agree with it or not.

noonereal said:
It's possible she was scorned, anything is possible. For you to go there with nothing in hand? Be honest to yourself.
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If you think that such isn't on the mind of any investigator then you do not know anything about investigating anything. Investigators ALWAYS looks towards positive motives for anyone making claims either for or against something.
 
noonereal said:
A second deflection.

If you don't want to be viewed as misogynistic don't post/speak as one who is.
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:roll: That you think that anyone that speaks of anything negative towards a woman is a misogynist then I'd be looking inward if I were you. Like it or not the world is not a pretty place and women can be just as vindictive and mean as any man.
 
JasperL said:
Wow. :shock:

It's like you're trying to confirm every bad stereotype of men when it comes to women who are sexually assaulted and/or raped, but whose claims aren't taken seriously.

"If she didn't have a cordial breakup, she's a lying bitch out for revenge for a long ago hurt.... "
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Never said she was a lying bitch out for revenge. I said it is a possibility. There is a difference. Learn it. That you want to believe every claim that is made against a man is not my fault. The world simply does not work the way you think it should.
 
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