Third Named Witness Rejects Kavanaugh’s Accuser’s Allegations

In written testimony sent to the Senate Judiciary Committee, a third named witness has rejected the allegations made by Judge Kavanaugh’s accuser.

Thus far, nobody has backed up the account advanced by Kavanaugh’s accuser, while Kavanaugh and three other named witnesses have rejected it outright.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/third-named-witness-rejects-kavanaughs-accusers-allegations/

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Democrats expected some people would come forth a’la Charlie Rose, Matt Lauer, Weinstein, Moonves, Franken, Spacey, Halperin, Lizza, Thrush, Schneiderman...

...but they are holding an empty sack, and looking like the ultimate in political hack idiots for not bringing this up during the hearing process.

Their ploy is massively evident. They’re willing to burn down anything to gain control of what they see as their judicial Politburo.

They cannot have people who follow the Constitution. It’s obvious. These Leftists whacko’s see the court as a forum to usurp the legislative process and will of the people.

And even worse, in this moronic instance, they are so desperate... they bring in a woman to kill the nominee who does not know:

1. What house the party was at.

2. What year it was.

3. How she got home.

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4. Nobody else heard about this allegation... except for 30-some years after the fact. Could she have been lying to her husband as some form of ploy during therapy?

5. She scrubs her social media... because she is far Left... part of the ***** Hat Brigade.

6. And there is not one person who can corroborate her story.

It tells us much about Leftists... like the perverted and failed ideology they vomit... these people are willing to believe anything... which includes the unbelievable and ridiculous.

The so-called rejection states:

Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford.

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Where I come from, "I don't know and I don't recall" is hardly a rejection or affirmation of anything, other perhaps than a writer's/speaker's bad memory and dearth of information/awareness.

The party had five people there. I'm sure there are literally hundreds of Brett and Ford's school-/classmates who can and would say exactly what Ms. Keyser said.

zimmer said:

Their ploy is massively evident. They’re willing to burn down anything to gain control of what they see as their judicial Politburo.

They cannot have people who follow the Constitution. It’s obvious. These Leftists whacko’s see the court as a forum to usurp the legislative process and will of the people.

It tells us much about Leftists... like the perverted and failed ideology they vomit... these people are willing to believe anything... which includes the unbelievable and ridiculous.

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Such as tomato paste being a vegetable? Or that Global Warming is just a liberal hoax? Or how Moses is a Founding Father? Or that a student wrote a negative review of Ford in 2014? Yes, the people are willing to believe anything.

Don't confuse this case (and probable DNC stall tactics) for what Republicans have been doing for years and years. It is the GOP that has been blatantly disrespecting the norms of the Constitution and subverting democracy across the country. Since 2014, wherever Republicans became empowered, we have seen obnoxious gerrymandering that seek to remove parts of the population from representation. And we have seen shameless gubernatorial cabinet and national court packing. Trump talked about third-world **** holes. Well, the GOP has behaved like a political party from a third-word **** hole for years. Conservatoves have had no problem at all with how the GOP has behaved. But now that the DNC is probably stalling with this nominee we are upset and fear for our democracy and Constitution? This is exactly why political partisans are dangerous.

And this case has nothing to do with "leftists." Why do you people constantly default to "leftists?"

Xelor said:

The so-called rejection states:

Where I come from, "I don't know and I don't recall" is hardly a rejection or affirmation of anything, other perhaps than a writer's/speaker's bad memory and dearth of information/awareness.

The party had five people there. I'm sure there are literally hundreds of Brett and Ford's school-/classmates who can and would say exactly what Ms. Keyser said.

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I don't know why you think otherwise, but when a person states someone is a witness, and that someone says they have "no recollection of being at any party where he was present with or without (named accuser)," that means they are claiming they were NOT a witness to the alleged event. Whether it occurred or not they have no memory of, and cannot testify to it. That statement was not made in a vacuum you know. Ms. Ford describes the event and names three males who were allegedly there with her and Ms. Keyser.

As well your last sentence about "hundreds of..." is a meaningless statement of the obvious. Of COURSE if someone is asked if they were some place when they were not they would say the same thing. :roll:

zimmer said:

Democrats expected some people would come forth a’la Charlie Rose, Matt Lauer, Weinstein, Moonves, Franken, Spacey, Halperin, Lizza, Thrush, Schneiderman...

...but they are holding an empty sack, and looking like the ultimate in political hack idiots for not bringing this up during the hearing process.

Their ploy is massively evident. They’re willing to burn down anything to gain control of what they see as their judicial Politburo.

They cannot have people who follow the Constitution. It’s obvious. These Leftists whacko’s see the court as a forum to usurp the legislative process and will of the people.

And even worse, in this moronic instance, they are so desperate... they bring in a woman to kill the nominee who does not know:

1. What house the party was at.

2. What year it was.

3. How she got home.

...

4. Nobody else heard about this allegation... except for 30-some years after the fact. Could she have been lying to her husband as some form of ploy during therapy?

5. She scrubs her social media... because she is far Left... part of the ***** Hat Brigade.

6. And there is not one person who can corroborate her story.

It tells us much about Leftists... like the perverted and failed ideology they vomit... these people are willing to believe anything... which includes the unbelievable and ridiculous.

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There were only 5 people in that party (of which include her and Kavanaugh).
All 3 attendees to that alleged party had now denied her claims!

On Saturday night, her lawyer, Howard Walsh, released a statement to CNN and the Senate Judiciary Committee.

"Simply put," Walsh said, "Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford."

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/22/politics/kavanaugh-ford-accuser-nomination/index.html



Look how Ford's lawyers are trying to spin that:

Ford's lawyer Debra Katz said in response to Keyser's attorney's statement that it makes sense that Keyser wouldn't remember, because Ford has said she did not share her allegations "publicly or with anyone for years."

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/22/politics/kavanaugh-ford-accuser-nomination/index.html


How many parties were there that only 5 were attendees - and that Ford had left the party (after the alleged assault), leaving her (Keyser) alone with two very drunk boys and PJ? Surely, the sudden departure of Ford was unusual?

You don't have to know the details for something like that to stand out - to easily be recollected now that Ford had come out to make accusations, if that party did happen at all! It was that party!

Furthermore, Ford's lawyer should remember it wasn't only Keyser who couldn't recall.
ALL 3 alleged attendees don't!

It's not only that no one recall an assault happened at that party - heck, no one even recalls about that party happening at all!


Actually, all alleged 3 witnesses are corroborating what Kavanaugh had said - denying he was at that party!

Looking more and more like Mrs Ford is a fruitloop with an over active imagination of her childhood.


Perhaps what she needs is a good mental health screening?

In their desperate bid to delay the confirmation of Kavanaugh, what'll they come up with next?

Kavanaugh pointed gun, and hurled racist remarks at black transgender granny?

MSgt said:

Such as tomato paste being a vegetable? Or that Global Warming is just a liberal hoax? Or how Moses is a Founding Father? Or that a student wrote a negative review of Ford in 2014? Yes, the people are willing to believe anything.

Don't confuse this case (and probable DNC stall tactics) for what Republicans have been doing for years and years. It is the GOP that has been blatantly disrespecting the norms of the Constitution and subverting democracy across the country. Since 2014, wherever Republicans became empowered, we have seen obnoxious gerrymandering that seek to remove parts of the population from representation. And we have seen shameless gubernatorial cabinet and national court packing. Trump talked about third-world **** holes. Well, the GOP has behaved like a political party from a third-word **** hole for years. Conservatoves have had no problem at all with how the GOP has behaved. But now that the DNC is probably stalling with this nominee we are upset and fear for our democracy and Constitution? This is exactly why political partisans are dangerous.

And this case has nothing to do with "leftists." Why do you people constantly default to "leftists?"

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Well that was a feeble attempt at a defense.

Was a good laugh though.

Why Leftists you ask? Because it is Leftists pulling this idiocy.

When you folks **** the place full, don’t blame others... man up and own it.

Tell me, with all the evidence against Kavanaugh (from a Democrat) why are you folks so silent? ROTFLOL...

zimmer said:

Well that was a feeble attempt at a defense.

Was a good laugh though.

Why Leftists you ask? Because it is Leftists pulling this idiocy.

When you folks **** the place full, don’t blame others... man up and own it.

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What leftists? Do you know what a leftist is? From using Nazi and Goebbils trash to demonize, now you are promoting an ignorant idea that communists and fascists are behind this stalling? Are you capable of focusing at all?

And I just gave you the broad strokes of how the GOP has been behaving and your reply was to not man-up and whine about "leftists." It's the GOP and right-wing media that has been ******* the place up since 2008.

zimmer said:

Tell me, with all the evidence against Kavanaugh (from a Democrat) why are you folks so silent? ROTFLOL...

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So silent about what? And who are "you folks?" Can you at least offer a single post that a grown adult man would write?

MSgt said:

What leftists? Do you know what a leftist is? From using Nazi and Goebbils trash to demonize, now you are promoting an ignorant idea that communists and fascists are behind this stalling? Are you capable of focusing at all?

And I just gave you the broad strokes of how the GOP has been behaving and your reply was to not man-up and whine about "leftists." It's the GOP and right-wing media that has been ******* the place up since 2008.



So silent about what? And who are "you folks?" Can you at least offer a single post that a grown adult man would write?

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Leftists... of the Left, using their tactics and fomenting their ideology.

They’re certainly not folks who love the Constitution and defend it and the institutions which undergird it. No they are not. These morons are hellbent on burning that to the ground.

Just look at the BS Show they’re pulling now. Goebbels and Stalin would be proud. It’s right out of their handbook. May as well paint a nice, large 58 on the back of Kavanaugh.

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tosca1 said:

In their desperate bid to delay the confirmation of Kavanaugh, what'll they come up with next?

Kavanaugh pointed gun, and hurled racist remarks at black transgender granny?

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” he scared my horse Victoria “

FORD is 0 for 4 with the other supposed party goers... the last being the ex-wife of Bob Beckel (a known partisan) and his current business partner.

Hats off to Bob and his ex-wife for playing this straight.

Keyser's denial, as a female lifelong friend and Ford's last named witness, is the most consequential development that has occurred since Ford publicly stepped forward last Sunday and detailed her allegations to the Washington Post. Ford's allegation of the 1982 incident was told to no one until a 2012 therapy session, when Kavanaugh was first touted in the media as the most likely GOP Supreme Court nominee.

https://www.weeklystandard.com/john...ss-denies-ever-attending-party-with-kavanaugh

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zimmer said:

Leftists... of the Left, using their tactics and fomenting their ideology.

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Oh, of the left side of the spectrum, as opposed to rightists, who are of the right side of the spectrum.

You could just state Democrats, since this is easily fine tuned to the DNC. You would come off as less of a radical.

zimmer said:

They’re certainly not folks who love the Constitution and defend it and the institutions which undergird it. No they are not. These morons are hellbent on burning that to the ground.

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And this defines more of an actual leftist, who likes waving around Soviet and Chinese flags during Antifa shenanigans. But since the Constitution is a liberal document, Democrats and liberals are not hellbent on burning anything. Again, it is Republicans who have been...

- Practicing extreme gerrymandering, thus denying whole segments of the population from voting, to the point where federal judges have had to declare it unconstitutional.
- Moved to legitimize elections in 2008 with "birther" narratives and again in 2016 with debunked accusation of millions of illegals voting.
- Passed legislation to deny an elected governor his choices for his own Cabinet and moving to stack courts.
- Refused, for the first time in American history, to consider a seated President's nominee for Supreme Court for an entire year in 2016.

None of this supports the notion that "the right" gives a damn about the Constitution or preserving democracy if it means that they can't guarantee "winning" at any cost.

zimmer said:

Just look at the BS Show they’re pulling now. Goebbels and Stalin would be proud. It’s right out of their handbook. May as well paint a nice, large 58 on the back of Kavanaugh.

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The BS they are pulling now is a page out of the GOP book. You declared that they should "man-up" and admit, yet even Trump has decided that 2016 didn't happen as he called this their handbook. Extremism beget extremism. But unlike in 2016, Kavanaugh is being considered, isn't he?

Goebbels and Stalin have nothing to do with any of this and if we were to entertain a comparison it would be to FOX News propaganda and "the right's" knack for persecuting homosexuals, minorities, and now labeling political rivals and the free press as "enemies of the state."

Xelor said:

The so-called rejection states:

Where I come from, "I don't know and I don't recall" is hardly a rejection or affirmation of anything, other perhaps than a writer's/speaker's bad memory and dearth of information/awareness.

The party had five people there. I'm sure there are literally hundreds of Brett and Ford's school-/classmates who can and would say exactly what Ms. Keyser said.

Captain Adverse said:

I don't know why you think otherwise, but when a person states someone is a witness, and that someone says they have "no recollection of being at any party where he was present with or without (named accuser)," that means they are claiming they were NOT a witness to the alleged event. Whether it occurred or not they have no memory of, and cannot testify to it. That statement was not made in a vacuum you know. Ms. Ford describes the event and names three males who were allegedly there with her and Ms. Keyser.

As well your last sentence about "hundreds of..." is a meaningless statement of the obvious. Of COURSE if someone is asked if they were some place when they were not they would say the same thing. :roll:

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What I know about Leland Keyser is what's in the rubric article.

Red:
What in the rubric article informs us of who indicated Ms. Keyser was a witness?

First:

• 
  [*=1]Brett cited Keyser as a witness, or
  [*=1]Dr. Ford cited Keyser as a witness.

Second:

• What would Keyser have, at the time of the party, heard or seen?
• Why or how, assuming Blasey said nothing other than goodbye (if she even said that), would Keyser think, know or have learned of what transpired in the bedroom? Would drunken Brett and Mark have said something about the scuffle? I doubt it.
• What about her friend leaving the house would, given the apparent quietude, have struck Keyser as odd and thus given rise to a lasting memory? From what we've been told so far, nothing.
• How drunk was Keyser? Might she have been drunk enough that she wouldn't remember the events the next day, let alone some decades later?
  • I attended a bicker party that I know went to because I woke on the floor of one of the club's large main floor rooms. I have no idea how I got to that club, when I got there, what I did, or with whom I interacted, though I know (only by way of having been told so) why I went.
    
    The next day I asked my best friend what had happened and he said that the last he saw me was when, to meet up with a woman for whom I'd "caught the fever," I left the club he and I later joined. She said she was perplexed and piqued because she never saw me arrive before she left the club, but she didn't hold that against me, for some years later, she married me.
    
    To this day, all I know is that, with a killer hangover, I woke up at the club and walked backed to the dorm. Did aliens abduct me and deposit me there? I don't think so. I never met a soul -- I knew plenty of people at that club -- who knew of my presence there that night, so the most I can say is that whatever I did there (God only knows what I did making my way from the first to the second club) didn't attract notice.

MSgt said:

Such as tomato paste being a vegetable? Or that Global Warming is just a liberal hoax? Or how Moses is a Founding Father? Or that a student wrote a negative review of Ford in 2014? Yes, the people are willing to believe anything.

Don't confuse this case (and probable DNC stall tactics) for what Republicans have been doing for years and years. It is the GOP that has been blatantly disrespecting the norms of the Constitution and subverting democracy across the country. Since 2014, wherever Republicans became empowered, we have seen obnoxious gerrymandering that seek to remove parts of the population from representation. And we have seen shameless gubernatorial cabinet and national court packing. Trump talked about third-world **** holes. Well, the GOP has behaved like a political party from a third-word **** hole for years. Conservatoves have had no problem at all with how the GOP has behaved. But now that the DNC is probably stalling with this nominee we are upset and fear for our democracy and Constitution? This is exactly why political partisans are dangerous.

And this case has nothing to do with "leftists." Why do you people constantly default to "leftists?"

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Are you asserting that the Democrats have always been above all political maneuvering and unethical, political crap? That only the evil and deceptive Republicans are not holy and upright as the Democrats universally are?

That Democrat subversion and perversion of our system, laws, election processes and governmental spending is not on record across our history?

C'mon, man!

tosca1 said:

In their desperate bid to delay the confirmation of Kavanaugh, what'll they come up with next?

Kavanaugh pointed gun, and hurled racist remarks at black transgender granny?

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See? Now that Ford's becoming a laughing stock.......they came up with another one!

The Reps should've just gone on with the voting!


It's clear that the Dems are playing dirty. I won't be surprised if this starts a violent clash among the people - it's quite heated up as it is. They're playing with fire.

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Tom Horn said:

” he scared my horse Victoria “

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Hah! We're wrong.

It's just another woman who claims to have been "flashed" by Kavanaugh!

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The Democrats have set women's liberalization back 50 years. All the coddling they are giving Professor Brown is creating the impression that she represents the weaker sex. Innocent until proven guilty is part of the tougher standard men will use. This was changed to guilty until proven innocent, to stack the deck for the weaker sex. Women used to be strong, but now we need to open the legal door for them and stack the deck to create an illusion of strong. The Democrats have become the regressive party, instead of the progressive party.