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Kavanaugh accuser breaks silence about sexual misconduct allegations detailed in letter to Senate De

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http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...-about-sexual-misconduct-allegations-detailed

The woman who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct has identified herself and is speaking publicly about her allegations against Kavanaugh for the first time, according to a Washington Post investigation published Sunday.

Christine Blasey Ford, now a 51-year-old professor at Palo Alto University in California, described an incident between the two in high school, alleging that Kavanaugh pinned her to a bed one summer in the 1980s and forced himself on her.

Ford told the Post that Kavanaugh "groped her over her clothes, grinding his body against hers and clumsily attempting to pull off her one-piece bathing suit and the clothing she wore over it."

She also said Kavanaugh put his hand over her mouth when she attempted to scream for help.
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This SCOTUS nominee is a real class act. A drunken attempted rapist. What a man!

She should be given the chance to testify before the nomination vote.
 
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She is a research professor. She has been taking therapy for a long time. She also passed a polygraph test from a former FBI agent.
 
Atheist 2020 said:
She is a research professor. She has been taking therapy for a long time. She also passed a polygraph test from a former FBI agent.
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So she is credible & should be allowed to testify before this sex offender is voted on.
 
JacksinPA said:
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...-about-sexual-misconduct-allegations-detailed

The woman who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct has identified herself and is speaking publicly about her allegations against Kavanaugh for the first time, according to a Washington Post investigation published Sunday.

Christine Blasey Ford, now a 51-year-old professor at Palo Alto University in California, described an incident between the two in high school, alleging that Kavanaugh pinned her to a bed one summer in the 1980s and forced himself on her.

Ford told the Post that Kavanaugh "groped her over her clothes, grinding his body against hers and clumsily attempting to pull off her one-piece bathing suit and the clothing she wore over it."

She also said Kavanaugh put his hand over her mouth when she attempted to scream for help.
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This SCOTUS nominee is a real class act. A drunken attempted rapist. What a man!

She should be given the chance to testify before the nomination vote.
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She needs to testify before the nation and answer questions. That would be only fair to Kavanaugh and everyone else involved.
 
JacksinPA said:
So she is credible & should be allowed to testify before this sex offender is voted on.
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There was another student in the room at the time & he should testify also. He witnessed the assault.
 
Atheist 2020 said:
She is a research professor. She has been taking therapy for a long time. She also passed a polygraph test from a former FBI agent.
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Sounds fairly credible.
 
JacksinPA said:
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...-about-sexual-misconduct-allegations-detailed

The woman who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct has identified herself and is speaking publicly about her allegations against Kavanaugh for the first time, according to a Washington Post investigation published Sunday.

Christine Blasey Ford, now a 51-year-old professor at Palo Alto University in California, described an incident between the two in high school, alleging that Kavanaugh pinned her to a bed one summer in the 1980s and forced himself on her.

Ford told the Post that Kavanaugh "groped her over her clothes, grinding his body against hers and clumsily attempting to pull off her one-piece bathing suit and the clothing she wore over it."

She also said Kavanaugh put his hand over her mouth when she attempted to scream for help.
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This SCOTUS nominee is a real class act. A drunken attempted rapist. What a man!

She should be given the chance to testify before the nomination vote.
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And of course there is a police report on this...right?

She reported it to school authorities?

Other than her word, is there anything else?
 
Borking another fully qualified SCOTUS nominee, are we?
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gdgyva said:
And of course there is a police report on this...right?

She reported it to school authorities?

Other than her word, is there anything else?
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One report above - see post #2 - said she passed a lie detector from a former FBI agent.

and this from Daily Beast

https://www.thedailybeast.com/report-christine-blasey-ford-brett-kavanaughs-accuser-passed-polygraph

The woman who accused Supreme Court nominee of trying to sexually assault broke her silence and told the Washington Post that she feared for her life during the 1980s encounter. “I thought he might inadvertently kill me,” Christine Blasey Ford, now a 51-year-old research psychologist in northern California, told the newspaper. “He was trying to attack me and remove my clothing.” The Post said it reviewed notes from a couple's therapist that Ford visited that say she reported in 2012 she was attacked by students who went on to become “highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington.” The paper said Ford’s attorney also provided the results of a polygraph exam that indicated she was being truthful. Kavanaugh has “unequivocally” denied the allegations.
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This deserves a full hearing.
 
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gdgyva said:
And of course there is a police report on this...right?

She reported it to school authorities?

Other than her word, is there anything else?
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There was another guy in the bedroom who witnessed it all. He should be subpoenaed to testify.
 
eohrnberger said:
Borking another fully qualified SCOTUS nominee, are we?
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Don't you think this will now be the only way to stop a nominee since the last few have basically refused to answer any questions about their views and beliefs and positions on issues. When we allowed that, it opened the door to stuff like this.

And I am not happy about it either.

But when you close one door, people are going to find a way in or out through other avenues.
 
gdgyva said:
And of course there is a police report on this...right?

She reported it to school authorities?

Other than her word, is there anything else?
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There are two males that was at the party that witness the after effects of the gang rape.
 
JacksinPA said:
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...-about-sexual-misconduct-allegations-detailed

The woman who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct has identified herself and is speaking publicly about her allegations against Kavanaugh for the first time, according to a Washington Post investigation published Sunday.

Christine Blasey Ford, now a 51-year-old professor at Palo Alto University in California, described an incident between the two in high school, alleging that Kavanaugh pinned her to a bed one summer in the 1980s and forced himself on her.

Ford told the Post that Kavanaugh "groped her over her clothes, grinding his body against hers and clumsily attempting to pull off her one-piece bathing suit and the clothing she wore over it."

She also said Kavanaugh put his hand over her mouth when she attempted to scream for help.
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This SCOTUS nominee is a real class act. A drunken attempted rapist. What a man!

She should be given the chance to testify before the nomination vote.
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Sorry #METOO! advocates but No. :no:

If she felt the victim of such assault back in the day she should have filed charges if she were old enough, or at least told "mommy and daddy" way back when so THEY could deal with this allegation.

Meanwhile, he was vetted for the Appellate Court 12 years ago. Where was this allegation then?

IMO the Senate should go ahead with the appointment vote and relegate her to another partisan attempt to derail an appointment her personal politics can't stomach.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Sorry #METOO! advocates but No. :no:

If she felt the victim of such assault back in the day she should have filed charges if she were old enough, or at least told "mommy and daddy" way back when so THEY could deal with this allegation.

Meanwhile, he was vetted for the Appellate Court 12 years ago. Where was this allegation then?

IMO the Senate should go ahead with the appointment vote and relegate her to another Anita Bryant "lite" attempt to derail an appointment her politics can't stomach.
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She & the witnesses should be allowed to testify. The House is not a Kangaroo Court that has its mind made up & can simply dismiss inconvenient facts bearing on this guy's morals & actions.
 
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haymarket said:
One report above - see post #2 - said she passed a lie detector from a former FBI agent.

and this from Daily Beast

https://www.thedailybeast.com/report-christine-blasey-ford-brett-kavanaughs-accuser-passed-polygraph



This deserves a full hearing.
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Lie detectors can be fooled...

These were teenagers

She never reported to authorities of any type

And she in her interview with Washpo admits drinking....

Thanks, but no thanks

He memory is fuzzy...no proof....and this is just a partisan ploy to keep a judge off of SCOTUS
 
gdgyva said:
Lie detectors can be fooled...

These were teenagers

She never reported to authorities of any type

And she in her interview with Washpo admits drinking....

Thanks, but no thanks

He memory is fuzzy...no proof....and this is just a partisan ploy to keep a judge off of SCOTUS
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All those factors you mentioned need to be brought up in a formal hearing and examined. I am not saying I believe this woman and I am not saying I do not believe this woman. She and the nation deserves the opportunity to hear her story and Kavanaugh deserves the opportunity to respond to it.
 
[FONT=&quot]"Christine Blasey Ford, now a 51-year-old professor at Palo Alto University in California...[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Ford told the Post that she hasn’t spoken with Kavanaugh since the alleged incident and didn’t tell anyone about it until 2012, when she discussed it in couple’s therapy."

That seems to tell the motive of telling this story. The reason she didn't tell anyone about the high school kid she now claims tried to rape and murder her over 3 decades ago was... [/FONT]
 
haymarket said:
All those factors you mentioned need to be brought up in a formal hearing and examined. I am not saying I believe this woman and I am not saying I do not believe this woman. She and the nation deserves the opportunity to hear her story and Kavanaugh deserves the opportunity to respond to it.
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It should have been brought up before the hearing was over.
 
gdgyva said:
Lie detectors can be fooled...

These were teenagers

She never reported to authorities of any type

And she in her interview with Washpo admits drinking....

Thanks, but no thanks

He memory is fuzzy...no proof....and this is just a partisan ploy to keep a judge off of SCOTUS
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There are two male teenagers who were at the party and they will be coming out in a few days. She had been seeking counseling (2012) about this attempted gang rape -- that's evidence. There is enough evidence to say this event happened. Plus, after it was announced in the first place, he already had a list of 65 women saying during high school he was a nice teenager. Strange, he went to a all boy high school. Why have a list of former high school women in the first place unless the White House and the Republican senate thought it was a good idea.
 
haymarket said:
All those factors you mentioned need to be brought up in a formal hearing and examined. I am not saying I believe this woman and I am not saying I do not believe this woman. She and the nation deserves the opportunity to hear her story and Kavanaugh deserves the opportunity to respond to it.
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No...

That just opens up anyone with a claim coming forward 30-40 years later with zero proof needed

So the next democratic nominee may have 10 of these come out in October right before the election....and of course you are going to want to hear all of their stories....right?

Sexual harassment sucks....but this is and has gotten out of hand. Women have to come forward before the person is coming up for election, or the bench, or whatever....

He has been on the federal bench for 12 years....why not then?

She is a professor not some uneducated waitress someplace....

This is just another in a long series of sad attempts to thwart the GOP from placing their judges on the bench

And we all know it....
 
JacksinPA said:
She & the witnesses should be allowed to testify. The House is not a Kangaroo Court that can simply dismiss inconvenient facts bearing on this guy's morals & actions.
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You mean you want to turn the Senate into a kangaroo court hearing decade old allegations and finding someone "guilty" until proven innocent.

This is another delaying tactic. The BIG question is why didn't Feinstein bring this up during the original hearing period? She had this "damning" info MONTHS before.

There is no valid excuse, she did it intentionally for just that purpose.
 
haymarket said:
Don't you think this will now be the only way to stop a nominee since the last few have basically refused to answer any questions about their views and beliefs and positions on issues. When we allowed that, it opened the door to stuff like this.

And I am not happy about it either.

But when you close one door, people are going to find a way in or out through other avenues.
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"At the heart of this dispute is the so-called Ginsburg Rule, a term used in confirmation hearings to argue that when answering questions from the senators, nominees must avoid offering “hints,” “forecasts” or “previews” — as Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg put it in her confirmation hearing — into how they might rule on ...Jul 9, 2018"

“hints,” “forecasts” or “previews” as to how Kavanaugh might rule would appear to be the only questions they are asking anymore.

The Senate Democrats have politicized the SCOTUS nomination process, as anyone watching these proceedings is witness to, because they want activist court members to institute the social policies they can't get through the regular legislative process, as they, more often than not, far too extreme. In other words, yet another form of fascism from the left.

Kavanaugh, and previous nominees, are quite right in not answering those types of questions.
 
Captain Adverse said:
You mean you want to turn the Senate into a kangaroo court hearing decade old allegations and finding someone "guilty" until proven innocent.

This is another delaying tactic. The BIG question is why didn't Feinstein bring this up during the original hearing period? She had this "damning" info MONTHS before.

There is no excuse, she did it intentionally.
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Because Feinstein believes there is political advantage to do so now. The Senate Democrats have politicized the SCOTUS nomination process, much to its damage.
 
Desert Storm said:
I guess the concept of innocent till proven guilty is unknown to you
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He will never be found guilty of the attempted gang rape. Time has pass to long to get a convictions. Second, it happened during the 1980's were people would say during that time -- you went to a party with drunk boys. During that era, they are going to college and you are going to get married and have babies. It's the 2010's and women can go to college too and they do not need children to make them complete. Women do not need to have a man. We are in the era of single mothers and a teenage boys from a single mother does not need a father figure
 
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