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Does Trump Even Understand What He Did Wrong ?[W:133]

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There are difficulties:

This basic fact is difficult to keep in mind when assessing his decisions because we have never had a president like this. Far too often we look for a schema or strategy behind Trump’s actions, only to discover that his decisions were precipitated by the dumbest of reasons.

We must at least consider the possibility that Trump’s bizarre behavior with respect to Russian collusion, the Mueller probe, he just does not understand he committed crimes or what was so wrong. But it is possible that at a moral level and at a legal one, he's not smart enough to grasp the enormity of the crimes he et al...have committed.

That’s the picture that emerges from this portrait of Trump’s mood in the White House today.

The president privately fumed to one friend after another on Air Force One, in the Oval Office and over the phone that Manafort “has absolutely nothing to do with me,” according to people close to him. Although Trump tells them he feels bad for Manafort, he also has been complimentary of Judge T.S. Ellis, who has asked sharp questions of Mueller’s prosecutors…

As Trump sees it, Mueller is aggressively prosecuting Manafort detailing his alleged tax evasion and bank fraud scheme and flashing snapshots of his extravagant wardrobe for the jur to deliberately embarrass Trump and undermine his presidency. And, according to people familiar with the president’s thinking, he believes the news *media is complicit…

Still, Trump has confided to friends and advisers that he is worried the Mueller probe could destroy Trump Jr., who is under scrutiny by Mueller...the June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower with Russians for dirt on Clinton. As one adviser described the president’s thinking, he does not believe his son purposefully broke the law, but is fearful nonetheless that Trump Jr. inadvertently may have wandered into legal *jeopardy.

Reading this, it's one of three things: the possibility is that Trump is innocent of any more wrongdoing already revealed in the press. Incredibly unlikely given damning new quotidian revelations and the ever receding backtracking of the president’s communications team, even to the point of floating that “collusion is not a crime.”

The second possibility is that the various advisers who gave the Washington Post these vignettes of a brooding president are holding back on the full story of a president knowingly and actively attempting to cover his tracks after committing crimes that he well knows could lead not only to impeachment but even his incarceration. That is still the likeliest probability.

But we cannot exclude the notion that Trump legitimately believes that he did nothing wrong, and that the Mueller probe is a ginned up investigation seeking to get him and his associates in trouble on what he views as technicalities and trivialities.

This might seem astonishing, but consider that Trump has never in his entire career ever had to face consequences for his actions. He has never worked for a boss or even a bd. of dirs. He has managed to pawn off his debts onto others with every bankruptcy, he has crushed negative news stories and potential whistleblowers with a mix of bribes and intimidation, he has hired fixers to get around inconvenient red tape, as well as moral and legal obstacles, and he has spent a lifetime making business deals with everyone from mafia figures to despots in the developing world. For Trump, the rules are for little people and you make “deals” through almost any transactional means necessary.

It’s possible that Trump has spent the last decade deeply involved in the Russian criminal underworld, that they have both compromising personal and financial information on him, and that he agrees with their worldview. It’s even possible that the Russians came calling and said they had stolen negative information about Clinton and give it for certain favors, Trump didn’t even understand that...is a massive criminal offense. It’s even possible that he believed that it would cease to matter if he lost, but that if he did become president, he would be able to run the entire government with the same autocratic control with which he runs his business, and make whatever problems arose from his actions go away.

In other words, Trump may lack both the moral compass and the legal wherewithal to even judge the 'highness' of his crimes and the vulnerability of his situation. He understands how inconvenient all of this is for him, yet it’s not really clear that he grasps why this isn’t a witch hunt, but maybe the biggest scandal in American history.

Again, I’m not entirely convinced of this thesis. It’s still most likely that Trump is simply a knowing criminal scurrying like a rat caught in a trap. But that assumes a level of moral and intellectual capacity on Trump’s part that may not even be present.

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2018/...d-wrong/?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral
 
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There are difficulties:

This basic fact is difficult to keep in mind when assessing his decisions because we have never had a president like this. Far too often we look for a schema or strategy behind Trump’s actions, only to discover that his decisions were precipitated by the dumbest of reasons.

We must at least consider the possibility that Trump’s bizarre behavior with respect to Russian collusion, the Mueller probe, he just does not understand he committed crimes or what was so wrong. But it is possible that at a moral level and at a legal one, he's not smart enough to grasp the enormity of the crimes he et al...have committed.

LOL!

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

What the hell has Trump done WRONG????

He's just done the opposite of what Clinton would have done.......which is exactly what America wanted and NEEDED.

The economy is booming.

Dangerous aliens cannot enter America.

The Second Amendment is being protected.

The Liberal courts are getting their asses handed to them by the Trump Supremes.

Wrong? His approval polls are at 47% and rising.

LOL!
 
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LOL!

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

What the hell has Trump done WRONG????



He's just done the opposite of what Clinton would have done.......which is exactly what America wanted and NEEDED.

You can start with his never ending lies!
 
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He is profoundly ignorant, self-absorbed and amoral.

It is very likely he does not understand what he did wrong. That could be how he gets off the hook -- that he didn't know he did anything wrong.


After he has had to backpedal so far that his only remaining excuse is that he didn't know it was illegal, his supporters will be fully willing to accept that he did wrong but they will at that point invoke the grounds upon which Comey let Hillary off the hook. Namely that no matter how bad what he did was, there was no proof that he intended to do wrong. They will say that clears Trump.
 
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You can start with his never ending lies!

LOL again.

What lies?

He may give a wrong opinion or hyperbolize now and then......and the fake news Media pretends he's lying. Their stupidity is immense.

:mrgreen:
 
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The Mueller probe has not turned up any criminal acts on Trump's part. Are they even pursuing the collusion theory anymore? I think their next hope is that he interfered with justice. And we've seen nothing on that thus far. If they had something, we all know the leaks would have been out.

So best wait until the investigation is finally over before getting out the tar and feathers.
 
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LOL!

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

What the hell has Trump done WRONG????

He's just done the opposite of what Clinton would have done.......which is exactly what America wanted and NEEDED.

The economy is booming.

It was something he inherited. He's done nothing in particular to improve it to any degree in a manner that it otherwise wouldn't have.
Dangerous aliens cannot enter America.

Of course they can.
The Second Amendment is being protected.

It already was being protected before he won the office.
The Liberal courts are getting their asses handed to them by the Trump Supremes.

Nah, not really.
Wrong? His approval polls are at 47% and rising.

Try holding steady at about 41% with a downward trend. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Yup, it's funny to watch the spittle fly when people have to be so dishonest about Twump in defending him.
 
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It was something he inherited. He's done nothing in particular to improve it to any degree in a manner that it otherwise wouldn't have.

Of course they can.

It already was being protected before he won the office.

Nah, not really.

Try holding steady at about 41% with a downward trend. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Yup, it's funny to watch the spittle fly when people have to be so dishonest about Twump in defending him.

Your lies are getting more and more desperate.........do not ask from whom the spittle flies.......it flies from you.
 
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Your lies are getting more and more desperate.........do not ask from whom the spittle flies.......it flies from you.

Pity that you can't cite any lie from me.

Still, it's fun to watch you spazz-prance around, desperate to distract from the fact that you've spouted only nonsense.
 
Re: Does Trump Even Understand What He Did Wrong ?

He is profoundly ignorant, self-absorbed and amoral.

It is very likely he does not understand what he did wrong. That could be how he gets off the hook -- that he didn't know he did anything wrong.


After he has had to backpedal so far that his only remaining excuse is that he didn't know it was illegal, his supporters will be fully willing to accept that he did wrong but they will at that point invoke the grounds upon which Comey let Hillary off the hook. Namely that no matter how bad what he did was, there was no proof that he intended to do wrong. They will say that clears Trump.
What did he do wrong?

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I don’t really understand what he done wrong and, where’s the evidences because every time that the democrats are Charlie in the loss of the election. How many times do we have to go through this if the democrats have something on trump then we should be fair and, bring Hillary on buying the dossier and, whatever..


Can’t censor this Patriot
 
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This opinion piece is breaking news?!? :lol:
 
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Tell you what, Pedestrian...next time someone quotes a small part of a WaPo article, I'd appreciate if you go ahead and post the entire article like you did with this one. But be careful, some sources will be okay with you posting a few paragraphs but if you post their entire article, they get pissed off.

Anyway, my reaction?

yawn...

Another Trump-hating talking potato head sounds off.

Moving on...
 
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Pity that you can't cite any lie from me.

Still, it's fun to watch you spazz-prance around, desperate to distract from the fact that you've spouted only nonsense.

Nobody in the known Universe could match your desperately dishonest spaz-dance.

The LIE is that your biased link is dead wrong......Trump is now up from the 47% I cited and is now at...........ta dah........Read it and weep, Tanny.

50 FIFTY FIVE OH percent approval.

https://www.mediaite.com/online/ras...ely-voters-approve-of-trumps-job-performance/

LOL!

I feel your pain and angst.

Better think about changing to the winning side.
 
Re: Does Trump Even Understand What He Did Wrong ?

Nobody in the known Universe could match your desperately dishonest spaz-dance.

The LIE is that your biased link is dead wrong......Trump is now up from the 47% I cited and is now at...........ta dah........Read it and weep, Tanny.

50 FIFTY FIVE OH percent approval.

https://www.mediaite.com/online/ras...ely-voters-approve-of-trumps-job-performance/

LOL!

I feel your pain and angst.

Better think about changing to the winning side.


That link is more than a week old. Trump is back down to 46% at Rasmussen.

Even on the most rightleaning poll in the bunch, he can't stay at 50%. He tiptoes up to it and then stumbles back down.
 
Re: Does Trump Even Understand What He Did Wrong ?

Nobody in the known Universe could match your desperately dishonest spaz-dance.

The LIE is that your biased link is dead wrong......Trump is now up from the 47% I cited and is now at...........ta dah........Read it and weep, Tanny.

50 FIFTY FIVE OH percent approval.

https://www.mediaite.com/online/ras...ely-voters-approve-of-trumps-job-performance/

LOL!

I feel your pain and angst.

Better think about changing to the winning side.

LOL! You not only prove the adage that there's a sucker born every minute, you emody it.

The link you provide was from the 2nd. Mine is from the 10th.

Game. Set. Match.
 
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LOL again.

What lies?

He may give a wrong opinion or hyperbolize now and then......and the fake news Media pretends he's lying. Their stupidity is immense.

:mrgreen:

There surely are none so blind as those who will not see.
 
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LOL! You not only prove the adage that there's a sucker born every minute, you emody it.

The link you provide was from the 2nd. Mine is from the 10th.

Game. Set. Match.

Emody?

LOL!

Anyhow......he's been at 50% and he'll soon exceed it.

Change sides while you can.

The second term is going to get rough for those with a record of Trump-hating.

Have you read "It Can't Happen Here," yet?

Some of those things will happen.

:)
 
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Emody?

LOL!

Anyhow......he's been at 50% and he'll soon exceed it.

Change sides while you can.

The second term is going to get rough for those with a record of Trump-hating.

Have you read "It Can't Happen Here," yet?

Some of those things will happen.

:)

It's fun to watch you run away, tail tucked between your legs, from your own claims.
 
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I don't believe Trump to be all that cerebral but then I don't believe Trump to be a complete dummy.

Trump is manipulative, and greedy; he uses others in attempts to get his way.

Trump is a user; we only need look to his history & that fact is obvious.

Trump will be the ruin of this nation but the truly sad part of the equation; there will be those that continue to heap praise upon Trump even after Trump destroys US.
 
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It's fun to watch you run away......

Why would I run?

I do wish you could have some fun, Tanny......you obviously need it.

Trump's approval is at 48% today......that's plenty good enough to get him re-elected because the poll is about actual VOTERS......unlike the fake news polls.

Again.......the second term is going to be a LOT tougher on his enemies.

Take some time to rethink your loyalty to our president........before it's too late.
 
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Why would I run?

I do wish you could have some fun, Tanny......you obviously need it.

Trump's approval is at 48% today......that's plenty good enough to get him re-elected because the poll is about actual VOTERS......unlike the fake news polls.

Again.......the second term is going to be a LOT tougher on his enemies.

Take some time to rethink your loyalty to our president........before it's too late.

You made a claim. That claim was shown to be bull****. When called on your link from 8/2, you ran.

Case closed.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled adoration of the God Twump.
 
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You made a claim. When called on your link from 8/2, you ran.

A difference of 2% is not enough to make me run. Where did I run to? Here I am.

And, Trump's approval is at 48% today......that's plenty good enough to get him re-elected because the poll is about actual VOTERS......unlike the fake news polls.

Again.......the second term is going to be a LOT tougher on his enemies.

Take some time to rethink your loyalty to our president........before it's too late.
 
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A difference of 2% is not enough to make me run. Where did I run to? Here I am.

Yeah, so you ran. Clear as day.
And, Trump's approval is at 48% today......that's plenty good enough to get him re-elected because the poll is about actual VOTERS......unlike the fake news polls.

No, it's not. One poll by itself, and a conservative one, at that, isn't an accurate representation, but I understand your desperate need to cling to it.
Again.......the second term is going to be a LOT tougher on his enemies.

Lulz. He won't finish out his first.
Take some time to rethink your loyalty to our president........before it's too late.

Your worship of Twump as your god duly noted.

Why worship human filth?
 
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This is amusing.

I remember the last time all these holier than thou lefties let polls give them goose bumps.

I LOVED the reaction...
 
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