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    Re: Conservative activist disrupts campaign event for Muslim candidates

    Quote Originally Posted by D_NATURED View Post
    I can't argue with much of what you wrote. I will say, though, that the right has done much more to harm the first and second amendments. With regard to the first, making the press an enemy of the state, as Trump has done, places free speech in jeopardy. How can individual voices be heard without a functioning media. Furthermore, the constant, shameless religious engineering of our government with this crazy stupid "religious liberty task force" threatens religious liberty for many Americans. Does that not scare you at all?


    With regard to the second amendment, the right's disregard for the health and safety of this nation will be its demise. Their extremism will, ultimately, lead to more stringent regulations, forced into existence by a concerned public. The conservatives, with the argument that our right to own guns is absolute will, at some juncture, be forced to take some real responsibility for what they preach.
    Trump couldn't get anywhere with his argument if press outlets hasn't become so nakedly partisan. I know, Fox News, but would they exist if there was already an advocate for that political area. In other words, the press is partisan and keep trying to pretend they are nuetral. They are openly rooting for one side politically. They sure aren't my friend, but I think enemy goes too far.

    FFS. We had more gun control in the 70s than we do now---it did not control crime. You are using loaded emotional language to try to control the debate. Most gun control ever passed has been a step to more gun control. The right refuses to give because the left never stops with just one law.

    FYI, most gun advocates already acknowledge existing controls on age, felony removal, and current place restrictions are okay. That's a damn long way from absolute.

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    Re: Conservative activist disrupts campaign event for Muslim candidates

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Trump couldn't get anywhere with his argument if press outlets hasn't become so nakedly partisan. I know, Fox News, but would they exist if there was already an advocate for that political area. In other words, the press is partisan and keep trying to pretend they are nuetral. They are openly rooting for one side politically. They sure aren't my friend, but I think enemy goes too far.
    Yes, what do you do when the truth has a liberal bias? I suppose put out propaganda on the station with an anti-truth bias.

    I find it ironic that conservatives consolidate the media and then complain that they are colluding. That's a nave complaint. Furthermore, for the media to ignore Trump's antics and the evidence of his wrongdoing would be gross incompetence on their part and indicate a very dangerous collusion between the media and the government. This actually gives me hope that the media is not fully bought and paid for.

    FFS. We had more gun control in the 70s than we do now---it did not control crime. You are using loaded emotional language to try to control the debate. Most gun control ever passed has been a step to more gun control. The right refuses to give because the left never stops with just one law.

    FYI, most gun advocates already acknowledge existing controls on age, felony removal, and current place restrictions are okay. That's a damn long way from absolute.
    I remember the seventies. Real weapons of war were hard to get. People would buy Saturday night specials or make zip guns. People weren't dying like they are today. It's pretty absolute for them.


    I am liberal and I have several guns. None of them are war weapons, though. It would seem that the more dangerous a weapon, the more regulated should be its sale. I don't see that as being conservative philosophy, though. What I see conservatives do is obstruct gun control every time there is a tragedy. They minimize it as much as possible. Don't you see how dirty it is that the NRA is such a major contributor to and beneficiary of conservatives and how they behave when the young generation try to change the dynamic of violence? There is no appropriate shame for their gun religion. They accept apathy to the deaths of young people as an alternative to rational legislation and they will, indeed, pay a heavy price for that indifference to human life. Where is the liberty for the victims?

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    Re: Conservative activist disrupts campaign event for Muslim candidates

    Quote Originally Posted by D_NATURED View Post
    Yes, what do you do when the truth has a liberal bias? I suppose put out propaganda on the station with an anti-truth bias.

    I find it ironic that conservatives consolidate the media and then complain that they are colluding. That's a nave complaint. Furthermore, for the media to ignore Trump's antics and the evidence of his wrongdoing would be gross incompetence on their part and indicate a very dangerous collusion between the media and the government. This actually gives me hope that the media is not fully bought and paid for.
    Blaming Trump? That's a pathetic argument. Think back to how they cover every conservative ever. You have a bull**** argument and you know it, but are too consumed in confirmation bias to deal with it.


    I remember the seventies. Real weapons of war were hard to get. People would buy Saturday night specials or make zip guns. People weren't dying like they are today. It's pretty absolute for them.


    I am liberal and I have several guns. None of them are war weapons, though. It would seem that the more dangerous a weapon, the more regulated should be its sale. I don't see that as being conservative philosophy, though. What I see conservatives do is obstruct gun control every time there is a tragedy. They minimize it as much as possible. Don't you see how dirty it is that the NRA is such a major contributor to and beneficiary of conservatives and how they behave when the young generation try to change the dynamic of violence? There is no appropriate shame for their gun religion. They accept apathy to the deaths of young people as an alternative to rational legislation and they will, indeed, pay a heavy price for that indifference to human life. Where is the liberty for the victims?
    They are welcome to change the cycle, they aren't welcome to lie their way to it. Guns are not the problem, our approach to mental health and identifying people capable and ready to commit these crimes is the problem.

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