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Texas school district where 10 died in shooting accepts donations of guns

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/01/texas-school-district-santa-fe-guns

Trustees in Santa Fe vote to receive gifts including $20,000 worth of rifles, ammunition, optical sights and weapons training courses

The Texas school district where 10 people were killed in a mass shooting in May has accepted donations of weapons and safety equipment before the new term, including eight AR-15 rifles.

Trustees of the Santa Fe independent school district (ISD) voted to receive tens of thousands of dollars’ worth of gifts on Monday night, including the anonymous local donation of $20,000 worth of rifles, ammunition, optical sights and weapons training courses for full-time officers in the district’s police department.
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America - the land of the free & the home of the gun crazies. On another forum a recent transplant to Texas described its citizens as 'bats**t crazy'. Now I see what he was talking about.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/01/texas-school-district-santa-fe-guns

Trustees in Santa Fe vote to receive gifts including $20,000 worth of rifles, ammunition, optical sights and weapons training courses

The Texas school district where 10 people were killed in a mass shooting in May has accepted donations of weapons and safety equipment before the new term, including eight AR-15 rifles.

Trustees of the Santa Fe independent school district (ISD) voted to receive tens of thousands of dollars’ worth of gifts on Monday night, including the anonymous local donation of $20,000 worth of rifles, ammunition, optical sights and weapons training courses for full-time officers in the district’s police department.
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America - the land of the free & the home of the gun crazies. On another forum a recent transplant to Texas described its citizens as 'bats**t crazy'. Now I see what he was talking about.
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Not sure what you find wrong with having armed guards to protect the students. ??
 
Josie said:
Not sure what you find wrong with having armed guards to protect the students. ??
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If the problem can be defined as too many guns then adding more is a suspect solution to that problem.
 
JacksinPA said:
If the problem can be defined as too many guns then adding more is a suspect solution to that problem.
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Except "too many guns" isn't the problem, is it?
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/01/texas-school-district-santa-fe-guns

Trustees in Santa Fe vote to receive gifts including $20,000 worth of rifles, ammunition, optical sights and weapons training courses

The Texas school district where 10 people were killed in a mass shooting in May has accepted donations of weapons and safety equipment before the new term, including eight AR-15 rifles.

Trustees of the Santa Fe independent school district (ISD) voted to receive tens of thousands of dollars’ worth of gifts on Monday night, including the anonymous local donation of $20,000 worth of rifles, ammunition, optical sights and weapons training courses for full-time officers in the district’s police department.
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America - the land of the free & the home of the gun crazies. On another forum a recent transplant to Texas described its citizens as 'bats**t crazy'. Now I see what he was talking about.
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So you against well armed and trained police officers protecting school children and have the nerve to question other people's sanity, Wow.........
 
JacksinPA said:
If the problem can be defined as too many guns then adding more is a suspect solution to that problem.
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The problem isn't too many guns, but yet you believe it is.
 
Josie said:
Except "too many guns" isn't the problem, is it?
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Adding more guns to a chaotic school environment in the midst of a lockdown is only asking for more people to be injured or killed. Teachers & custodians don't go into their lines of work to become law enforcement officers at a moment's notice. It doesn't work. And when the cops arrive how will they tell the perpetrators from the others brandishing weapons? More will die.
 
JacksinPA said:
Adding more guns to a chaotic school environment in the midst of a lockdown is only asking for more people to be injured or killed. Teachers & custodians don't go into their lines of work to become law enforcement officers at a moment's notice. It doesn't work. And when the cops arrive how will they tell the perpetrators from the others brandishing weapons? More will die.
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Dude -- the officers will have the guns, not the teachers. Did you not even read your own link?
 
JacksinPA said:
If the problem can be defined as too many guns then adding more is a suspect solution to that problem.
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The problem can be defined as a 'gun free zone' that has inadequate enforcement mechanisms. If 'keep out' signs worked then we would not need door locks.
 
JacksinPA said:
Adding more guns to a chaotic school environment in the midst of a lockdown is only asking for more people to be injured or killed. Teachers & custodians don't go into their lines of work to become law enforcement officers at a moment's notice. It doesn't work. And when the cops arrive how will they tell the perpetrators from the others brandishing weapons? More will die.
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Hmm... your OP link seemed to indicate that trained police officers would be the ones in charge of added school security.

In preparation for the start of the new school year on 20 August, Santa Fe ISD is increasing the size of its police department to 14 full-time officers, 10 part-time officers and five campus security assistants to serve about 5,000 students in four schools.
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That seems like a lot of dedicated police officers for 4 schools with 5K students.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/01/texas-school-district-santa-fe-guns

Trustees in Santa Fe vote to receive gifts including $20,000 worth of rifles, ammunition, optical sights and weapons training courses

The Texas school district where 10 people were killed in a mass shooting in May has accepted donations of weapons and safety equipment before the new term, including eight AR-15 rifles.

Trustees of the Santa Fe independent school district (ISD) voted to receive tens of thousands of dollars’ worth of gifts on Monday night, including the anonymous local donation of $20,000 worth of rifles, ammunition, optical sights and weapons training courses for full-time officers in the district’s police department.
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America - the land of the free & the home of the gun crazies. On another forum a recent transplant to Texas described its citizens as 'bats**t crazy'. Now I see what he was talking about.
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More guns means less dead people because good armed people can kill the bad armed people so really, everybody should be armed.
 
Casper said:
The problem isn't too many guns, but yet you believe it is.
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Imagine how safe we would be if we also armed the students...
 
Casper said:
So you against well armed and trained police officers protecting school children and have the nerve to question other people's sanity, Wow.........
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Get better people. Recent experience shows those armed guards wait outside until the shots stop. Hell, that one shooter just dropped his gun and went to WalMart for a soda, got arrested somewhere down the road.
 
Bodhisattva said:
More guns means less dead people because good armed people can kill the bad armed people so really, everybody should be armed.
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Yeah, right? That's what keeps your school in New Zealand safe.
 
Grand Mal said:
Yeah, right? That's what keeps your school in New Zealand safe.
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No guns is best. But if you are gonna have guns then go all in...
 
Bodhisattva said:
No guns is best. But if you are gonna have guns then go all in...
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Fine with me. I live far enough from the border that the racket won't keep me awake and I'm in no danger from strays. Put military surplus full-autos on Craigslist and Ebay and I'll buy stock in whoever makes the ammunition.
Too damn many people in that country anyway. Let the herd thin itself.
 
JacksinPA said:
If the problem can be defined as too many guns then adding more is a suspect solution to that problem.
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But it doesn't have to be, nor is it, part of the problem.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Imagine how safe we would be if we also armed the students...
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Nope, not unless you live in an area that has not been infected with crazy, 1940 should do it.
 
Grand Mal said:
Get better people. Recent experience shows those armed guards wait outside until the shots stop. Hell, that one shooter just dropped his gun and went to WalMart for a soda, got arrested somewhere down the road.
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On that we agree.
 
Casper said:
Nope, not unless you live in an area that has not been infected with crazy, 1940 should do it.
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South Side Chicago was pretty good in the late 20's...
 
Bodhisattva said:
Imagine how safe we would be if we also armed the students...
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Oh cool, you must’ve seen the episode of Sacha Baron Cohen‘s show where all the right-wing nut sacks advocated arming three-year-olds with fire arms.
 
HenryChinaski said:
Oh cool, you must’ve seen the episode of Sacha Baron Cohen‘s show where all the right-wing nut sacks advocated arming three-year-olds with fire arms.
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3 year olds? That is ridiculous. But at 5 years old they are ready because then they can understand the importance of being responsible. I am not saying 5 year olds should have guns at school... but certainly by 10... think of all the lives that would be saved.
 
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