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Already had a partial read about it and it's nothing new, seeing as he would not be the first president to "pick a fight with Iran" nor would he be the first world leader to do so. Calling him stupid? Fine, I can get behind that, though his current position would suggest otherwise.

Also if he were to be the most dangerous individual in history, he would actually need to do something that proved such danger was warranted and if he managed to actually kill anyone. Then he would actually need to kill over something around the number of 75+ million people to be ahead in that demographic.

I have heard and read tons of claims about Trump since before the election got into full swing and wouldn't you believe, almost all of them have turned out to be completely flat out hyperbole and false.

Please elaborate on those "claims" that turned out to be false. In my memory the only falsehoods were the ones Trump and his crime family were caught telling and there were a lot of them. Call us paranoid all you want. Suffice it to say that Trump's behavior is erratic and his tweets are often downright psychotic. He has kicked out his advisors, spends every morning glued to fox news and his recent trip to Europe could be the most disastrous in the history of Presidential visits. This past week we endured the spectacle of a 70 year old man backpedaling blindfolded. How much more will it take for you?
 
They don't testify? Really? Here's Pompeo testifying before the Senate that Iran is in compliance.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...D5YQtwIIMDAE&usg=AOvVaw2cyI8VPGuEj7TKXkS0nDnH

I'm not having a hard time thinking or speaking. You're the one trying to speak on my behalf and I don't appreciate it. You aren't in the Duck's league.

So you're of the vocation to believe Pompeo on merit alone I guess?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/iran-nuclear-deal-noncompliance/

The April certification went against Mr. Trump’s accurate statements during the presidential campaign that the JCPOA was one of the worst agreements ever negotiated and that there was clear evidence of Iran’s failing to meet its obligations under the agreement as well as cheating. Although many Trump officials opposed the April certification — and this decision to certify appeared to irritate President Trump — State Department careerists succeeded in convincing Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to agree to certify anyway. Press reports yesterday indicated that President Trump will grudgingly agree to certify Iranian compliance again but could change his mind.

Senators Tom Cotton (R., Ark.), Ted Cruz (R., Texas), David Perdue (R., Ga.), and Marco Rubio (R., Fla.) made it clear in a July 11 letter to Secretary Tillerson that they do not want this to happen again and cited four ways Iran is not complying with the nuclear agreement:

One. Operating more advanced uranium-enrichment centrifuges than is permitted and announcing the capability to initiate mass production of centrifuges. (Although I agree with this concern, the U.S. should not have agreed to let Iran enrich any uranium while the JCPOA is in effect, never mind enrich it with advanced centrifuges. This is one of the JCPOA’s most serious flaws.)

Two. Exceeding limits on production and storage of heavy water, a substance needed to operate plutonium-producing heavy-water nuclear reactors. (Again, I agree, but the U.S. should not have agreed to a pact that allows Iran to produce heavy water or operate a heavy-water reactor.)

Three. Covertly procuring nuclear and missile technology outside of JCPOA-approved channels. There’s direct evidence of this, from German intelligence reports.

Four. Refusing to allow IAEA inspectors access to nuclear-research and military facilities.

I would rather not be in your league Duck.

Wading in **** my entire existence, isn't really a pass time that I would agree with.

This is evident in that you linked a statement that he basically said the deal was still wrong and that it needed to be fixed.

Do you not get that?
 
Please elaborate on those "claims" that turned out to be false. In my memory the only falsehoods were the ones Trump and his crime family were caught telling and there were a lot of them. Call us paranoid all you want. Suffice it to say that Trump's behavior is erratic and his tweets are often downright psychotic. He has kicked out his advisors, spends every morning glued to fox news and his recent trip to Europe could be the most disastrous in the history of Presidential visits. This past week we endured the spectacle of a 70 year old man backpedaling blindfolded. How much more will it take for you?

Deporting every immigrant-
Gay death camps-
Selling the country off to china-
Removing women's rights-
Making discrimination legal-
Enforcing martial law-
Turning into a fascist dictator-

You know: Just a few of the tame ones.

Though calling his family a Crime family is pretty explanatory for what kind of stance you take on this. I have not seen any real evidence to the claim that his family is a crime family, other then a few personal opinions and pictures of him with noted members of the crime world. Not to mention he hasn't been implicated in any hard crime aside from the same lawsuits a normal business gets. The claim itself is lacking in merit.

However if being in a picture with a person shows what kind of individual you are behind closed doors?
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Makes you wonder just what in the hell was going on when he sent his daughter to be Harvey's little intern for all that time.

Just to be fair, Trump has appeared in one or two with him as well. So there you go.

Besides, his trip wasn't disastrous and you obviously don't know, nor care. About what he does in his own morning.
 
So you're of the vocation to believe Pompeo on merit alone I guess?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/iran-nuclear-deal-noncompliance/



I would rather not be in your league Duck.

Wading in **** my entire existence, isn't really a pass time that I would agree with.

This is evident in that you linked a statement that he basically said the deal was still wrong and that it needed to be fixed.

Do you not get that?

“With the information I have been provided, I have seen no evidence they are not in compliance today.”--Mike Pompeo testifying to Sen. Udall.

https://www.bourseandbazaar.com/articles/2018/4/13/in-confirmation-hearing-pompeo-unwittingly-makes-strong-case-for-the-iran-nuclear-deal
 
Linc, Russia is here to stay, whether you like it or not.
Россия здесь, чтбы остаться, нравится вам это или нет.
 
“With the information I have been provided, I have seen no evidence they are not in compliance today.”--Mike Pompeo testifying to Sen. Udall.

https://www.bourseandbazaar.com/articles/2018/4/13/in-confirmation-hearing-pompeo-unwittingly-makes-strong-case-for-the-iran-nuclear-deal

Then he was obviously being lied to if intelligence gathered from allies showed they were not.

Yet he seemed to still want to address the issue, so I bet he was just trying to deal with this. Without actually agreeing to the problem.

Such an outcome would not be unheard of when politicians are involved.
 
Then he was obviously being lied to if intelligence gathered from allies showed they were not.

Yet he seemed to still want to address the issue, so I bet he was just trying to deal with this. Without actually agreeing to the problem.

Such an outcome would not be unheard of when politicians are involved.

No. He knew what the truth was. He also knew what the lazy and ill-informed political opportunist Trump wanted. So, he was balancing truth and fiction, and, as the last couple of days have proven, fiction won in the end.
 
No. He knew what the truth was. He also knew what the lazy and ill-informed political opportunist Trump wanted. So, he was balancing truth and fiction, and, as the last couple of days have proven, fiction won in the end.

So basically, you are looking at all of the proof that was brought to bare. That showed they weren't complying with the agreement and decided to agree when someone when they do the whole "there is nothing to see here routine"?

Because they obviously weren't complying.
Trump had completely viable reasons for wanting to give the whole thing the hatchet treatment.
 
So basically, you are looking at all of the proof that was brought to bare. That showed they weren't complying with the agreement and decided to agree when someone when they do the whole "there is nothing to see here routine"?

Because they obviously weren't complying.
Trump had completely viable reasons for wanting to give the whole thing the hatchet treatment.

Nonsense.

Have a nice evening.
 
Do you remember his name?
I got to know Grumpy Jenkins for a little while, what a character, and what a BRAINIAC.
Now there's a blast from the past! He was also quite an engine builder. But the guy I literally worshiped, was Smokey Yunick. What a character!

(Yeah I respected engine builders, and built a few myself and with friends & family)
 
Actually, did you also know that while we speak, Mattis and some others are quietly changing the nuclear code protocols to make it harder for the President alone to call for a strike? They are feeling like they need to put the more dangerous toys on the top shelf and out of reach of the dangerously spoiled child having the meltdown.
I saw this recently. It's unbelievably sad reflection on the current state of things. And the GOP Congress stands idly by, and even aiding & abetting.
 
Now there's a blast from the past! He was also quite an engine builder. But the guy I literally worshiped, was Smokey Yunick. What a character!

(Yeah I respected engine builders, and built a few myself and with friends & family)

I used to have a stack of those old Popular Mechanix mags with the "Say Smokey" column in every issue.
I had NO IDEA you were a real motorhead.
Of course my knowledge is all from the era before computers, and to be honest, my wife is actually the better wrench in the family.
I'm more the geek, I know the facts and figures, the theory... but without my wife I'd be accidentally leaving parts out.
She can still do it even with her MS and the wheelchair, all she needs is for me to pick her up and put her on the crawler.
 
I used to have a stack of those old Popular Mechanix mags with the "Say Smokey" column in every issue.
I had NO IDEA you were a real motorhead.
Of course my knowledge is all from the era before computers, and to be honest, my wife is actually the better wrench in the family.
I'm more the geek, I know the facts and figures, the theory... but without my wife I'd be accidentally leaving parts out.
She can still do it even with her MS and the wheelchair, all she needs is for me to pick her up and put her on the crawler.
My latest wrenching has involved getting my kids racing. Straight-up, there's not many better bonding projects for a father and his teenage son, then building a car and getting it ready for the track. You'll watch the boy grow in patience and maturity, and if you know your stuff he'll develop great respect for you in the process. In mechanics & racing, money talks and bull**** walks. And by 'money', I don't mean cash but rather legit knowledge & skills.

In addition, organized sanctioned racing requires a great amount of research and subsequent application to your car and yourself. You work and plan for an event for months, if not years. You pick your class, and prep your car. But when you show-up on race day, if you don't pass tech - you don't race. It's that simple. There's no "the dog ate my homework". You turn around, and go home. Same thing with yourself on the track (road-racing). You obey the rules and obey the flags, or you're off the track - immediately. And again, you go home. And if you didn't do a good job mechanically prepping your car, you DNF. Don't adequately rest and physically prepare yourself the night before? You perform badly, go off the course, spin, or worse. No one likes to talk about 'worse'.

It's a total no bull****, no second chance, environment. And it breeds maturity & competence. It's a perfect activity for a teenage boy to grow into a responsible mature man. I saw my boy leap ahead of a lot of his schoolboy friends in terms of maturity, competency, and self confidence. Much due to his racing, but also a lot due to him being a kid and rubbing elbows with middle-aged racers who shared mature advice with him. Contrary to image, racers are among the most mature and safety-conscious guys you'll meet. Their lives depend upon it.

And one more thing: You'll never see a kid that respects his car, like a kid that spent a couple years and thousands of hours (and dollars!) building it. When you work that hard to build something, you don't recklessly ruin or wreck it. Reckless ruins are for the kids whose old man buys them a Porsche or Muscle Car on their 16th, without the kid working for it.

Anyway, didn't mean to make this that long. It's a passionate subject for me. Thanks for the comment!
 
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