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Russian oligarch met with Michael Cohen at Trump Tower during transition

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Washington (CNN)A Russian oligarch who was questioned by special counsel Robert Mueller and recently sanctioned by the US visited President Donald Trump's personal attorney Michael Cohen in Trump Tower during the presidential transition in January 2017, according to video reviewed by CNN.The January 9, 2017, Trump Tower appearance by Viktor Vekselberg, which was also reported Friday by The New York Times, adds to the questions swirling over the payments to Cohen, which Mueller's team questioned Vekselberg about after the FBI stopped his private jet at a New York-area airport earlier this year.
Vekselberg, chairman of Russian asset manager Renova Group, was accompanied at Trump Tower by Andrew Intrater, who is Vekselberg's cousin and head of Columbus Nova. Vekselberg is Columbus Nova's biggest client.
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/25/poli...-trump-tower-michael-cohen-meeting/index.html


So how's the weather in Russia comrade? Yeah, yeah... Total coininkdinky
 
Do we have any real information to go on? (Or is the meeting enough to flip out about?)
 
OrphanSlug said:
Do we have any real information to go on? (Or is the meeting enough to flip out about?)
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Any meeting by Trump or his current/former associates is enough for leftwingers and their nevertrump cohorts.
 
DaveFagan said:
Golly gee. What a surprise. A Russian businessman doing business in the USA. Those billionaires must have interests and investments all over the Planet. Let me know if the USA was/is the only Nation he stopped in. January 2017 and I think he was checking on his snow shovel investments, or not?
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This has been a presentation of the "Excuses for Russia" information system...

When any posts threaten the sanctity of El Jefe for Life Putin the "Excuses for Russia" information system will send out disinformation for general consumption...
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Didn't you get the memo? ...... The Russian thing is over now it's obstruction!

From a NYT story:
May 4, 2018
If you can believe the NYT.

There is no indication that Mr. Mueller suspects Mr. Vekselberg of wrongdoing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/04/us/politics/viktor-vekselberg-mueller-investigation.html
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Considering Mueller doesn't seem to "indicate" anything, I find the bolded to be of little solace.

Though I must admit the NYT sources & analysis are usually pretty good.
 
Chomsky said:
Considering Mueller doesn't seem to "indicate" anything, I find the bolded to be of little solace.

Though I must admit the NYT sources & analysis are usually pretty good.
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I really think you are at the stage where grasping at straws is all you have left regarding Russia. Look at the indictments he has moved on to tax fraud etc.

If he were really looking for collusion wouldn't he at least bring it the HRC law firm and the DNC to find out why they paid to have Russian sources to produce dirt on Trump. Lack of doing it makes Mueller/Rosenstein stink of partisanship at the least.

The FBI/Comey/Mueller have been at this for nearly two years. You take me as a fair person when will you admit that while Russia may have wanted to help Trump where was no conspiracy to work together.
 
washunut said:
I really think you are at the stage where grasping at straws is all you have left regarding Russia. Look at the indictments he has moved on to tax fraud etc.

If he were really looking for collusion wouldn't he at least bring it the HRC law firm and the DNC to find out why they paid to have Russian sources to produce dirt on Trump. Lack of doing it makes Mueller/Rosenstein stink of partisanship at the least.

The FBI/Comey/Mueller have been at this for nearly two years. You take me as a fair person when will you admit that while Russia may have wanted to help Trump where was no conspiracy to work together.
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I wouldn't be so sure about that.

The targets themselves are usually interviewed last, and then indictments are issued if there's sufficient evidence. We don't know who if any are targets, but we do know Trump's family and inner sanctum will be interviewed last for a plethora of reasons, including political. And if anyone's indictable, they may not even be interviewed.

So I make no hard prognostications until Mueller is done. Then we see what he has. And I suspect he'll have a fair amount of items, from Obstruction (Trump) to Conspiracy (Don Jr, meeting), to lining one's pockets (Kushner).
 
American said:
Any meeting by Trump or his current/former associates is enough for leftwingers and their nevertrump cohorts.
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For the guy who said none of his team met with Russians, there are a lot of Russians they met with.
 
washunut said:
I really think you are at the stage where grasping at straws is all you have left regarding Russia. Look at the indictments he has moved on to tax fraud etc.
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Tax fraud, you mean the crime Al Capone spent the rest of his life in jail for committing? That must mean that Capone wasn't guilty of murder, bootlegging, racketeering, etc.
 
Chomsky said:
Considering Mueller doesn't seem to "indicate" anything, I find the bolded to be of little solace.

Though I must admit the NYT sources & analysis are usually pretty good.
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Our nation is experiencing a war within itself.

It's a war between the truth and lies.

The truth don't always win elections, but the truth always wins out in the end.

And it will be the truth that causes this president to step down- or be impeached- like other presidents that tried to lie their way through the White House!

How's that for a history lesson? LOL!
 
Chomsky said:
Geez, these guys just get caught in lie after lie, with more revelations coming out daily. :doh
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It's interesting that Mitch McConnell was seen entering the building that same day.
 
They were just comparing borscht recipes. Just last week a Russian billionaire dropped in on me and we traded favorite recipes ... Chicken Kyiv for Vatrushka.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Didn't you get the memo? ...... The Russian thing is over now it's obstruction!

From a NYT story:
May 4, 2018
If you can believe the NYT.

There is no indication that Mr. Mueller suspects Mr. Vekselberg of wrongdoing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/04/us/politics/viktor-vekselberg-mueller-investigation.html
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Anybody who wants to assume what Mueller does or doesn't suspect or what he does or doesn't intend to do is perfectly free to make a fool of himself.
 
azgreg said:
It's interesting that Mitch McConnell was seen entering the building that same day.
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Well that's hardly anything conclusive.

But the Russian in the OP did donate to the Republican Party, as well as to Trump, besides Cohen.
 
Chomsky said:
I wouldn't be so sure about that.

The targets themselves are usually interviewed last, and then indictments are issued if there's sufficient evidence. We don't know who if any are targets, but we do know Trump's family and inner sanctum will be interviewed last for a plethora of reasons, including political. And if anyone's indictable, they may not even be interviewed.

So I make no hard prognostications until Mueller is done. Then we see what he has. And I suspect he'll have a fair amount of items, from Obstruction (Trump) to Conspiracy (Don Jr, meeting), to lining one's pockets (Kushner).
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I really enjoyed how Lowell said that Kushner must be a mere witness "based on the kind of questions they were asking" in the interview.

You know how you read that? Lowell asked if Kushner was a target/subject and the SC refused to tell them.
 
Chomsky said:
Well that's hardly anything conclusive.

But the Russian in the OP did donate to the Republican Party, as well as to Trump, besides Cohen.
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That's why I made no claim other than I found it interesting.
 
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