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Supreme court rejects appeal from Blackwater guards convicted of killing Iraqi civilians

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/14/blackwater-supreme-court-appeals-rejected-iraq

The supreme court has refused to consider appeals by the former Blackwater security contractors convicted in the 2007 slaying of 14 Iraqi civilians at a crowded traffic junction in Baghdad that marked one of the lowest points in the bloody conflict.

The court announced on Monday that it will not hear an appeal brought by the four men convicted in 2014 trial. They worked for the North Carolina-based private security firm then called Blackwater Worldwide that was contracted by the US government to provide security to US officials working in Iraq.
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I would hope that justice has been served.

Erik Prince, head of Blackwater, is Secretary Betsy DeVos' brother.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/14/blackwater-supreme-court-appeals-rejected-iraq

The supreme court has refused to consider appeals by the former Blackwater security contractors convicted in the 2007 slaying of 14 Iraqi civilians at a crowded traffic junction in Baghdad that marked one of the lowest points in the bloody conflict.

The court announced on Monday that it will not hear an appeal brought by the four men convicted in 2014 trial. They worked for the North Carolina-based private security firm then called Blackwater Worldwide that was contracted by the US government to provide security to US officials working in Iraq.
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I would hope that justice has been served.

Erik Prince, head of Blackwater, is Secretary Betsy DeVos' brother.
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Justice is being served. However, I refuse to being judged by my sibling's actions. Don't you? I find it interesting that you must turn a positive into another bashing.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/14/blackwater-supreme-court-appeals-rejected-iraq

The supreme court has refused to consider appeals by the former Blackwater security contractors convicted in the 2007 slaying of 14 Iraqi civilians at a crowded traffic junction in Baghdad that marked one of the lowest points in the bloody conflict.

The court announced on Monday that it will not hear an appeal brought by the four men convicted in 2014 trial. They worked for the North Carolina-based private security firm then called Blackwater Worldwide that was contracted by the US government to provide security to US officials working in Iraq.
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I would hope that justice has been served.

Erik Prince, head of Blackwater, is Secretary Betsy DeVos' brother.
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ok? are you claiming he ordered this? lol whats the point of this last sentence
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/14/blackwater-supreme-court-appeals-rejected-iraq

The supreme court has refused to consider appeals by the former Blackwater security contractors convicted in the 2007 slaying of 14 Iraqi civilians at a crowded traffic junction in Baghdad that marked one of the lowest points in the bloody conflict.

The court announced on Monday that it will not hear an appeal brought by the four men convicted in 2014 trial. They worked for the North Carolina-based private security firm then called Blackwater Worldwide that was contracted by the US government to provide security to US officials working in Iraq.
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I would hope that justice has been served.

Erik Prince, head of Blackwater, is Secretary Betsy DeVos' brother.
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What does that mean, I would hope justice has been served?

Erik Prince to my knowledge was not charged with anything?

Prince resigned as CEO of Blackwater on March 2, 2009, and remained chairman of the board until he sold the company in late 2010 to a group of investors.

Strange you have to drag the Secretary of Education into this??
 
Lovebug said:
Justice is being served. However, I refuse to being judged by my sibling's actions. Don't you? I find it interesting that you must turn a positive into another bashing.
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I intended no bashing. Where did I say anything hurtful? 'Justice is being served.' So? 'Betsy DeVos is Erik Prince's brother.' So? I fail to see you point.
 
biglawnmower said:
ok? are you claiming he ordered this? lol whats the point of this last sentence
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First, I made no statement that he ordered this attack. And I brought out the connection with his sister only because a lot of people may not recognize the connection.
 
JacksinPA said:
First, I made no statement that he ordered this attack. And I brought out the connection with his sister only because a lot of people may not recognize the connection.
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what are you suggesting the connection has to do with...

sounds like radical liberal nonsense.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
What does that mean, I would hope justice has been served?

Erik Prince to my knowledge was not charged with anything?

Prince resigned as CEO of Blackwater on March 2, 2009, and remained chairman of the board until he sold the company in late 2010 to a group of investors.

Strange you have to drag the Secretary of Education into this??
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For some odd reason you appear to be adding a lot to my post that was not intended to be content by me.
 
biglawnmower said:
what are you suggesting the connection has to do with...

sounds like radical liberal nonsense.
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You are reading too much extra into my post. Take it at face value & forget it.
 
JacksinPA said:
You are reading too much extra into my post. Take it at face value & forget it.
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just trying to throw in your radical left wing "connections" that have nothing to do with one another.
 
Private military corporations really just need to die out, their only purpose is to cause havoc and fulfill corrupt agendas for terrorist governments.
 
ALTOY459 said:
Private military corporations really just need to die out, their only purpose is to cause havoc and fulfill corrupt agendas for terrorist governments.
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sounds like BS to me.

what do you hate more

the military or corporations?
 
TurtleDude said:
sounds like BS to me.

what do you hate more

the military or corporations?
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They both more or less carry out the same adjectives tbh
I would say at least a Nation's military can be used to protect people or be used for noble causes.
When has a PMC ever been used for a noble cause lol
 
JacksinPA said:
I intended no bashing. Where did I say anything hurtful? 'Justice is being served.' So? 'Betsy DeVos is Erik Prince's brother.' So? I fail to see you point.
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Since you are being cute, perhaps I can clarify it for you.

Imagine if I posted a news article talking about a rampant child molester who was finally arrested, brought to justice, and convicted and sentenced. And then I mentioned as a throwaway line, that you, JacksinPA, were his second cousin, and left it at that. What exactly was the intention behind me mentioning your distant relationship in the same breath as a child molester, other than to smear you by association?
 
ALTOY459 said:
They both more or less carry out the same adjectives tbh
I would say at least a Nation's military can be used to protect people or be used for noble causes.
When has a PMC ever been used for a noble cause lol
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contractors provided security for both civilian operations in the Mid East and for some military operations.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/14/blackwater-supreme-court-appeals-rejected-iraq

The supreme court has refused to consider appeals by the former Blackwater security contractors convicted in the 2007 slaying of 14 Iraqi civilians at a crowded traffic junction in Baghdad that marked one of the lowest points in the bloody conflict.

The court announced on Monday that it will not hear an appeal brought by the four men convicted in 2014 trial. They worked for the North Carolina-based private security firm then called Blackwater Worldwide that was contracted by the US government to provide security to US officials working in Iraq.
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I would hope that justice has been served.

Erik Prince, head of Blackwater, is Secretary Betsy DeVos' brother.
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That's why I will never work for another PMC, even a top shelf outfit. IMO, these guys should get the same protections that U.S. servicemen would get during wartime, if they're providing security for U.S. government personel. Had they been U.S. troops, they would have been cleared. This conviction was, at least partially, politically motivated.
 
ALTOY459 said:
They both more or less carry out the same adjectives tbh
I would say at least a Nation's military can be used to protect people or be used for noble causes.
When has a PMC ever been used for a noble cause lol
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PMC's saved hundreds thousands of lives in Iraq and not just their clients. Five PMC's from an unknown company engaged 40 odd insurgents outside Ramadi who were firing into a crowd made up mostly of women and children. They routed the bad guys and took 1 KIA and 2 WIA. Dozens of PMC's fought to the death, not only protecting their clients, but protecting innocents that they had no obligation to.
 
JacksinPA said:
I intended no bashing. Where did I say anything hurtful? 'Justice is being served.' So? 'Betsy DeVos is Erik Prince's brother.' So? I fail to see you point.
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These guys are getting hosed. Justice isn't being served.
 
TurtleDude said:
contractors provided security for both civilian operations in the Mid East and for some military operations.
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But those same military corporations and governments put them at a need to be protected in the first place
 
apdst said:
PMC's saved hundreds thousands of lives in Iraq and not just their clients. Five PMC's from an unknown company engaged 40 odd insurgents outside Ramadi who were firing into a crowd made up mostly of women and children. They routed the bad guys and took 1 KIA and 2 WIA. Dozens of PMC's fought to the death, not only protecting their clients, but protecting innocents that they had no obligation to.
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PMCs and foreign governments were the ones who instilled instability in the region in the first place lol. There wouldn't be insurgents if it were not for the foreign militaries creating this problem
 
ALTOY459 said:
PMCs and foreign governments were the ones who instilled instability in the region in the first place lol. There wouldn't be insurgents if it were not for the foreign militaries creating this problem
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That's like saying their wouldn't be any murderers if murder wasn't illegal.

There's absolutely no justification for the confusion caused and atrocities committed by the insurgents.

Most of the civilian casualties were caused the insurgents. 85% of the casualties caused by IEDs/EFPs were civilians. There's no excuse for that ****.

There's a brightside though: the more terrorists that showed up to fight; the more terrorists that got wasted.
 
apdst said:
PMC's saved hundreds thousands of lives in Iraq and not just their clients. Five PMC's from an unknown company engaged 40 odd insurgents outside Ramadi who were firing into a crowd made up mostly of women and children. They routed the bad guys and took 1 KIA and 2 WIA. Dozens of PMC's fought to the death, not only protecting their clients, but protecting innocents that they had no obligation to.
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LOL! I heard it was closwer to a KABILIION lives!
 
apdst said:
That's like saying their wouldn't be any murderers if murder wasn't illegal.
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lmao no
An example would be if the United States got invaded from Russia and because of that invasion insurgent groups rose up. If the USA never got invaded by Russia those insurgents wouldn't be killing people in the first place and there wouldn't be a problem.
 
apdst said:
Who told you that? The same person who taught that "closwer" is a word? :lamo
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Yawn. You're making asinine claims about non-quantifiable figures, you get called out on it and all you can do is whine about a spelling error.

You've peaked.
 
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