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Mueller Indicted A Russian Company That Didn't Even Exist, Court Transcripts Say

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https://www.dailywire.com/news/30556/disaster-mueller-indicted-russian-company-didnt-ryan-saavedra

"What about Concord Catering?" Harvey asked Dubelier. "The government makes an allegation that there's some association. I don't mean for you to – do you represent them, or not, today? And are we arraigning them as well?"

"We're not," Dubelier responded. "And the reason for that, Your Honor, is I think we're dealing with a situation of the government having indicted the proverbial ham sandwich."

"That company didn't exist as a legal entity during the time period alleged by the government,"​

:shock: :lamo

Such a joke.
 
jmotivator said:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/30556/disaster-mueller-indicted-russian-company-didnt-ryan-saavedra

"What about Concord Catering?" Harvey asked Dubelier. "The government makes an allegation that there's some association. I don't mean for you to – do you represent them, or not, today? And are we arraigning them as well?"

"We're not," Dubelier responded. "And the reason for that, Your Honor, is I think we're dealing with a situation of the government having indicted the proverbial ham sandwich."

"That company didn't exist as a legal entity during the time period alleged by the government,"​

:shock: :lamo

Such a joke.
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Oh yeah...this definitely shows the credibility of his investigation, lol.
 
You have wonder what "evidence" they used to get the indictment. They had to have used false evidence, or flat out lied
 
Yawn

How about those other 12 indictments, they have guaranteed Mueller is here at LEAST until the midterms !! No matter how much mud the Adorables sling.
 
apdst said:
You have wonder what "evidence" they used to get the indictment. They had to have used false evidence, or flat out lied
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"It must be fake! Everything is fake, Trump is God! Nobody did anything...look Hillary!"
 
yankintx said:
Yawn

How about those other 12 indictments, they have guaranteed Mueller is here at LEAST until the midterms !! No matter how much mud the Adorables sling.
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"Well sure there is a fly in that spoonful of soup, but what about the other spoonfuls?" :lamo
 
rocket88 said:
"It must be fake! Everything is fake, Trump is God! Nobody did anything...look Hillary!"
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I guess we now know why Mueller panicked when the defendant's lawyers showed up. :lamo
 
jmotivator said:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/30556/disaster-mueller-indicted-russian-company-didnt-ryan-saavedra

"What about Concord Catering?" Harvey asked Dubelier. "The government makes an allegation that there's some association. I don't mean for you to – do you represent them, or not, today? And are we arraigning them as well?"

"We're not," Dubelier responded. "And the reason for that, Your Honor, is I think we're dealing with a situation of the government having indicted the proverbial ham sandwich."

"That company didn't exist as a legal entity during the time period alleged by the government,"​

:shock: :lamo

Such a joke.
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Perhaps you should take a hint of where the joke would be when the Russians say that something "didn't exists as a legal entity". Russian oligarchs are particularly known for not allowing trivial details like legal technicalities to dissuade them from doing these kind of things. :lamo
 
apdst said:
You have wonder what "evidence" they used to get the indictment. They had to have used false evidence, or flat out lied
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I suspect it's very shaky, all the way around. Mueller is fighting to delay the formal charging against Concord because he doesn't want to release the evidence against them. I suspect it's a bluff.

Again, if there's no link to the Trump investigation in the activities of these 'Russians', there's no reason it couldn't be handled by the DOJ.
 
jmotivator said:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/30556/disaster-mueller-indicted-russian-company-didnt-ryan-saavedra

"What about Concord Catering?" Harvey asked Dubelier. "The government makes an allegation that there's some association. I don't mean for you to – do you represent them, or not, today? And are we arraigning them as well?"

"We're not," Dubelier responded. "And the reason for that, Your Honor, is I think we're dealing with a situation of the government having indicted the proverbial ham sandwich."

"That company didn't exist as a legal entity during the time period alleged by the government,"​

:shock: :lamo

Such a joke.
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Your desperation is both palpable and fun to watch.
 
jmotivator said:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/30556/disaster-mueller-indicted-russian-company-didnt-ryan-saavedra

"What about Concord Catering?" Harvey asked Dubelier. "The government makes an allegation that there's some association. I don't mean for you to – do you represent them, or not, today? And are we arraigning them as well?"

"We're not," Dubelier responded. "And the reason for that, Your Honor, is I think we're dealing with a situation of the government having indicted the proverbial ham sandwich."

"That company didn't exist as a legal entity during the time period alleged by the government,"​

:shock: :lamo

Such a joke.
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This is

a)being reported by the Daily Wire, an extreme right wing media rag, and
b)the lawyer for the defense being taken at face value when he doesn't even represent Concord Catering.

Maybe the premise of the article is true, maybe it isn't. Either way I'll wait for a credible source.
 
jmotivator said:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/30556/disaster-mueller-indicted-russian-company-didnt-ryan-saavedra
"What about Concord Catering?" Harvey asked Dubelier. "The government makes an allegation that there's some association. I don't mean for you to – do you represent them, or not, today? And are we arraigning them as well?"

"We're not," Dubelier responded. "And the reason for that, Your Honor, is I think we're dealing with a situation of the government having indicted the proverbial ham sandwich."

"That company didn't exist as a legal entity during the time period alleged by the government,"​

:shock: :lamo

Such a joke.
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What's a joke is your thread.

Ignoring for a moment that: "There are myriad old references to Concord Catering in Russian media, and press releases about Concord events and openings in Russia say that it was founded in 1996. It also still seems to be operational today."

The fact is the defendant, with regards to Concord, is Yevgeniy Victorovich Prigozhin. Prigozhin control both Concord Management and Consulting and Concord Catering and was using his business to fund the interference actions of Internet Research Agency (over $1.25 million).

In other words, ignoring for a fact the only word we have the Concord Catering didn't exist is the word of the attorney based on what they claim they've been told, the fact is the point of the indictment was to indict the man/company who was funding the Russian intelligence effort to interfere in our election.

It's a joke you think it's funny to post something which is so obviously incredibly dishonest.
Fishking said:
Oh yeah...this definitely shows the credibility of his investigation, lol.
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Actually, it just shows the gullibility of those who would read this and believe the distraction, rather than focus on the facts.
 
Trump supporters don't give a fig about honesty, or integrity.
 
jmotivator said:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/30556/disaster-mueller-indicted-russian-company-didnt-ryan-saavedra

"What about Concord Catering?" Harvey asked Dubelier. "The government makes an allegation that there's some association. I don't mean for you to – do you represent them, or not, today? And are we arraigning them as well?"

"We're not," Dubelier responded. "And the reason for that, Your Honor, is I think we're dealing with a situation of the government having indicted the proverbial ham sandwich."

"That company didn't exist as a legal entity during the time period alleged by the government,"​

:shock: :lamo

Such a joke.
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You have to wonder why Muller's team wanted a delay in starting the trial? They did everything they could to delay the trial and the judge said no delay... be ready for trial. Remember they brought the indictments in February. Maybe a big publicity stunt?

Muller's team made lots of allegations in the indictment and the discovery process will be very interesting to see what evidence they actually have and can they support what they have claimed.
 
"My company, or that part, didn't technically exist during the time of alleged misdeeds!"

Sounds pretty guilty.
 
Atomic Kid said:
Perhaps you should take a hint of where the joke would be when the Russians say that something "didn't exists as a legal entity". Russian oligarchs are particularly known for not allowing trivial details like legal technicalities to dissuade them from doing these kind of things. :lamo
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So it is your assertion that the defense team chose one company to disappear while showing up to defend the others? By God Holmes! You've broken the case! :roll:
 
Common Sense 1 said:
You have to wonder why Muller's team wanted a delay in starting the trial? They did everything they could to delay the trial and the judge said no delay... be ready for trial. Remember they brought the indictments in February. Maybe a big publicity stunt?

Muller's team made lots of allegations in the indictment and the discovery process will be very interesting to see what evidence they actually have and can they support what they have claimed.
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Like the Manafort case, this one couldn't have started off worse for them.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
You have to wonder why Muller's team wanted a delay in starting the trial? They did everything they could to delay the trial and the judge said no delay... be ready for trial. Remember they brought the indictments in February. Maybe a big publicity stunt?

Muller's team made lots of allegations in the indictment and the discovery process will be very interesting to see what evidence they actually have and can they support what they have claimed.
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Not even the trial. Mueller is trying to delay the charging and initial discovery, even starting the process leading up to a trial.
 
Cardinal said:
This is

a)being reported by the Daily Wire, an extreme right wing media rag, and
b)the lawyer for the defense being taken at face value when he doesn't even represent Concord Catering.

Maybe the premise of the article is true, maybe it isn't. Either way I'll wait for a credible source.
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Politico has the same information.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018...e-concord-management-pleads-not-guilty-578535

Disbelieve the lawyer, if you like, but what was reported in the courtroom is easily verified.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
You have to wonder why Muller's team wanted a delay in starting the trial? They did everything they could to delay the trial and the judge said no delay... be ready for trial. Remember they brought the indictments in February. Maybe a big publicity stunt?

Muller's team made lots of allegations in the indictment and the discovery process will be very interesting to see what evidence they actually have and can they support what they have claimed.
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Mueller's team wanted to know if they had formally accepted the summons. Mueller's team previously tried to get the Russian government to forward the summons without any success. Which would seem to be a reasonable request and the judge, a Trump appointee by the way, gave no reason for her ruling.
“Until the Court has an opportunity to determine if Concord was properly served, it would be inadvisable to conduct an initial appearance and arraignment at which important rights will be communicated and a plea entertained,” attorneys Jeannie Rhee, Rush Atkinson and Ryan Dickey wrote. “That is especially true in the context of this case, which involves a foreign corporate defendant, controlled by another, individual foreign defendant, that has already demanded production of sensitive intelligence gathering, national security, and foreign affairs information.”
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Mueller Indicted A Russian Company That Didn't Even Exist, Court Transcripts Say
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see you in November.
 
Cardinal said:
This is

a)being reported by the Daily Wire, an extreme right wing media rag, and
b)the lawyer for the defense being taken at face value when he doesn't even represent Concord Catering.

Maybe the premise of the article is true, maybe it isn't. Either way I'll wait for a credible source.
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And that would have to be Mueller
 
rocket88 said:
"It must be fake! Everything is fake, Trump is God! Nobody did anything...look Hillary!"
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So...explain how he had enough evidence to indict a non-existant company. I would love to hear how that works.
 
jmotivator said:
So it is your assertion that the defense team chose one company to disappear while showing up to defend the others? By God Holmes! You've broken the case! :roll:
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No my assertion is that the Russians historically don't concern themselves with legal compliance and almost always seek to skirt around it in order to disguise their true purpose and intent. The true purpose of this Concord filing is to expose the information about the US intelligence sources or operatives inside Russia. If you read the indictments against these Russians you would see that they contained very detailed information such as the defendants real names and the aliases they used, what department of the Russian government they worked and which buildings they worked, and etc. That kind of detailed information could only have from a very effective US intelligence operation that has sources high up in the Russian government and the Russians know it. That was one of the calculated risks Mueller had taken when he issued that indictment. Which is known as a 'speaking indictment' because it contained far more relevant facts and evidence within it then what is legally required to obtain an indictment.Mueller believed that he had to put this kind of detailed information before the American public in order for the public to be better able to understand and appreciate the massive scale, effort and complexity of the Russian interference campaign in our 2016 election and that this wasn't the work of some malicious independently working groups of hackers and trolls but could only be that of a hostile foreign state's intelligence services.
 
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