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Mueller Indicted A Russian Company That Didn't Even Exist, Court Transcripts Say

apdst said:
Unless you have a crystal ball, there's going to be some wishing going on.

You might want to shoot an email and ask them to end the Muellerjahadine. It isn't polling well.
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TLDR. see you in November.
 
yankintx said:
Yawn

How about those other 12 indictments, they have guaranteed Mueller is here at LEAST until the midterms !! No matter how much mud the Adorables sling.
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Rofl...you just yawned at someone who indicted a fantasy. That's telling.
 
apdst said:
So...explain how he had enough evidence to indict a non-existant company. I would love to hear how that works.
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If the company doesn't exist, how does it hurt Trump. That's your real concern, right? Defend he Dear Leader at all costs?
 
jmotivator said:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/30556/disaster-mueller-indicted-russian-company-didnt-ryan-saavedra

"What about Concord Catering?" Harvey asked Dubelier. "The government makes an allegation that there's some association.
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The Daily Wire? Lol.

Concord Management and Consulting LLC is a Russian front company owned by ex-convict and Putin crony Yevgeny Prigozhin.

Under the Concord umbrella, Prigozhin owns many operations including the Internet Research Agency (the St. Petersburg troll factory) and Wagner Group (Russia's largest PMC).
 
Rogue Valley said:
The Daily Wire? Lol.

Concord Management and Consulting LLC is a Russian front company owned by ex-convict and Putin crony Yevgeny Prigozhin.

Under the Concord umbrella, Prigozhin owns many operations including the Internet Research Agency (the St. Petersburg troll factory) and Wagner Group (Russia's largest PMC).
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How does a ‘caterer’ get into pmc’s?
 
Rexedgar said:
How does a ‘caterer’ get into pmc’s?
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Oligarch's have to diversify in order to launder their illicit gains. And yes, Concord Catering has the Kremlin account.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Oligarch's have to diversify in order to launder their illicit gains. And yes, Concord Catering has the Kremlin account.
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If CC can swing KFC and MCD’s, they can bid on the contract at 1600 Penn. Ave. :mrgreen:
 
Cardinal said:
There's nothing to indicate any veracity, or any further details or context for that claim.
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OK. I believe that's basically what I said. I imagine that further details will be forthcoming.
 
Chomsky said:
That article is merely same sourcing the court transcript, and is no better than supplying the hundreds of media sources that pick-up on the President's or Sarah Sander's lies, as if they are evidence of factuality.
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That.... doesn't make sense. Do you think the court reporter is lying about what was said?

Disbelieve the attorney for Concord if you want, but given the variety of news sources reporting on the exchange, it's kind of silly to disbelieve it happened.
 
dcsports said:
That.... doesn't make sense. Do you think the court reporter is lying about what was said?

Disbelieve the attorney for Concord if you want, but given the variety of news sources reporting on the exchange, it's kind of silly to disbelieve it happened.
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It doesn't matter, the attorneys claim is either misleading or completely false.

Concorde has existed for over two decades.
 
Chomsky said:
Exactly.

Those are American lawyers that stepped-up at the last minute, to act on Russia's behalf and initiate discovery. I don't have the original article, and unfortunately I accurately don't recall if the lawyers are directly hired by Russia, hired through an American special interest group, or acting as friends of the court. I seem to recall they were hired through a special interest group.

I highly suspect this discovery is politically motivated, and is being done to hobble Mueller's investigative machinery by exposing and thereby nullifying his undercover assets. I'd like to see the money trail for these lawyers, to see where it leads. If it leads to a GOP or Trump linked political org, I'd be tempted to call these actions near-treasonous.
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I have no doubt the attorneys for Concord thought Mueller was bluffing, and called him on it. The fact is, if Mueller wasn't prepared to charge the defendants, he never should have brought the indictments. I don't think he expected any of those defendants to see a courtroom, and only filed these cases to help justify keeping the special council going.
 
dcsports said:
lol -- ok. Bit random there, but interesting information.
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It means the lawyer’s claim, and therefore the premise for this thread, is false.
 
Cardinal said:
It's just some guy I've never heard of until today saying "ham sandwich." I don't know if what he's saying is true or not, and neither do you.
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But you accept some guy saying 'ham sandwich" about President Trump and you believe it!
Some guy you have never heard of. Of course you believe the thing the guy is saying about President Trump if it is Bad. :peace
 
Cardinal said:
It means the lawyer’s claim, and therefore the premise for this thread, is false.
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The lawyer's claim and the article would seem to be contradictory. However, there's obviously more to it. I don't see how the lawyer would benefit either way --he made it clear that his client is Concord Management and that's it. He does have to represent himself truthfully, however, so I imagine there's a reason he parsed his words the way he did.
 
Chomsky said:
So now my fellow Americans are willing to factually propagate the unverified claims of lawyers defending Putin's hacking orgs, as to the status of Putin's shell companies?

What the hell are you guys trying to sell, here? And, why?
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First off, after the amount of play and credence the never-Trumper side has given Stormy Daniel's lawyer, please spare me your sanctimony.

Second, if this catering business is in name only and has no legal entity tied to it then it is pretty sloppy work that Mueller's people hadn't discovered that in the course of their investigation.
 
Concord Consulting is well documented.

Prigozhin confidant Dmitriy Utkin (Lt. Col. (Ret./2013) GRU/Spetznaz) manages both the Internet Research Agency and Wagner Group under the aegis of Concord Consulting LLC.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
But you accept some guy saying 'ham sandwich" about President Trump and you believe it!
Some guy you have never heard of. Of course you believe the thing the guy is saying about President Trump if it is Bad. :peace
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The lawyer's claim was false. The company existed at the time of the charge, and when it was alleged that the company participated in election meddling.

You should have googled the company before taking the lawyer's claim at face value.
 
dcsports said:
The lawyer's claim and the article would seem to be contradictory. However, there's obviously more to it. I don't see how the lawyer would benefit either way --he made it clear that his client is Concord Management and that's it. He does have to represent himself truthfully, however, so I imagine there's a reason he parsed his words the way he did.
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The thread title and the lawyer's claim sync up, and are both false. This thread was intended to mock Mueller for bringing charges against a company that didn't exist. This thread has failed.
 
Last one out turn off the lights plse thx...

OFAC referenced in the article is the Office of Foreign Assets Control based in the Treasury Department and which has several cabinet secretaries to include secretaries of state, defense, AG, commerce, intelligence, homeland security and a few others....


According to the February indictment, individuals working for the Russian organization Internet Research Agency posed as U.S.-based activists and set up social media pages “designed to attract U.S. audiences.”

Federal prosecutors alleged in the indictment that Concord Management and Concord Catering were the Internet Research Agency’s “primary source of funding for its interference operations” in the United States. Concord controlled funding, recommended personnel and oversaw” the Internet Research Agency’s activities, according to charging documents.

Concord Consulting and Concord Catering were among the Russian entities designated on a sanctions list by the OFAC published in March. Both entities had been previously designated last year. Yevgeniy Viktorovich Prigozhin, according to U.S. Treasury officials, controls Concord Management and Consulting. Prigozhin, indicted in the February charges, has been called ”Putin’s chef.”

No other defense lawyers have made appearances on behalf of any of the other charged Russian entities in the special counsel’s case. Reed Smith has not publicly said how the firm connected with Concord Consulting and Management.

At the end of Wednesday’s arraignment, U.S. Magistrate Judge G. Michael Harvey of the District of Columbia asked—without any apparent optimism—whether any of the other defendants were in attendance.

“Alas, they are not here,” Rhee replied. “The government would be thrilled if they were here.”

https://www.law.com/2018/05/09/reed...ets-closeup-in-court/?slreturn=20180413195214



Reed Smith of Pittsburgh (the city Trump said by name and many times he represents) won't say how, when or why it got connected to the Russian corporate defendants. While Concord has been serving up cyber warfare against the United States Mueller has been serving up grand jury indictments and summonses to those charged that neither the Russian government nor the lawyers for Concord will deliver. The Putin-Trump Fanboyz keep getting busted yet they keep at it. They'll stay at it until the last dog dies. And then some. Trump is their deliverance after decades of whinging so they'll try to protect him at all costs. The same guyz who sang Putin praises in recent years.
 
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Cardinal said:
This is

a)being reported by the Daily Wire, an extreme right wing media rag, and
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Well, a) ad hominem, do you have issue with what they quoted? Also since when is biased sources not allowed? We should probably drop CNN, and NBC, and MSNBC then too, yeah?

b)the lawyer for the defense being taken at face value when he doesn't even represent Concord Catering.
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We discuss was lawyers say here on a daily basis. Can I count on you to run to one of the various Avenatti/Stormy Daniels threads and warn everyone about what lawyers say? I bet not.

Maybe the premise of the article is true, maybe it isn't. Either way I'll wait for a credible source.
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The Daily Wire isn't the only one reporting the conversation.

Look, it makes Mueller AGAIN appear horribly sloppy. It's like if I started a website called "Jmotivator Cooks!", didn't incorporate, and then after being suspected of committing a crime the DA indicted "Jmotivator Cooks!"
 
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