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Joint statement from Goodlatte, Gowdy and Nunes on Comey memos

vesper said:
It's a must read!

Here's an excerpt!


"The memos also make certain what has become increasingly clear of late: former Director Comey has at least two different standards in his interactions with others. He chose not to memorialize conversations with President Obama, Attorney General Lynch, Secretary Clinton, Andrew McCabe or others, but he immediately began to memorialize conversations with President Trump. It is significant former Director Comey made no effort to memorialize conversations with former Attorney General Lynch despite concerns apparently significant enough to warrant his unprecedented appropriation of the charging decision away from her and the Department of Justice in July of 2016.

These memos also lay bare the notion that former Director Comey is not motivated by animus. He was willing to work for someone he deemed morally unsuited for office, capable of lying, requiring of personal loyalty, worthy of impeachment, and sharing the traits of a mob boss. Former Director Comey was willing to overlook all of the aforementioned characteristics in order to keep his job. In his eyes, the real crime was his own firing.
The memos show Comey was blind to biases within the FBI and had terrible judgment with respect to his deputy Andrew McCabe. On multiple occasions he, in his own words, defended the character of McCabe after President Trump questioned McCabe.
Finally, former Director Comey leaked at least one of these memos for the stated purpose of spurring the appointment of Special Counsel, yet he took no steps to spur the appointment of Special Counsel when he had significant concerns about the objectivity of the Department of Justice under Attorney General Loretta Lynch.
As we have consistently said, rather than making a criminal case for obstruction or interference with an ongoing investigation, these memos would be Defense Exhibit A should such a charge be made."


https://intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=879
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LOL! Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee (wait for it...) eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....

bunked.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...y-memo-conservatives/558521/?utm_source=atlfb

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/987162035644522496
 
Cardinal said:
From the WSJ:

"Of those two memos, Mr. Comey himself redacted elements of one that he knew to be classified to protect secrets before he handed the documents over to his friend. He determined at the time that another memo contained no classified information, but after he left the Federal Bureau of Investigation, bureau officials upgraded it to “confidential,” the lowest level of classification."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/justic...-memos-over-classified-information-1524243505

Um....boom?

So what you're left with is that the memos Republicans leaked last night support all of Comey's claims and make Trump look positively terrible.

The only plausible theory for why Republicans demanded the memos from Rosenstein is that they were bluffing, that they expected Rosenstein to refuse thus presenting Trump with an excuse for firing him. This all backfired in Republicans' faces rather hilariously.
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While the WSJ says that Comey claimed a particular memo contained no classified information, the FBI has a different take on that:

"... Comey's leak to the press was illegal - as the FBI's chief FOIA officer, David Hardy, gave a sworn declaration to Judicial Watch in which he says that all seven of Comey's memos were classified at the time they were written, and they remain classified. ..."

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...odlatte-go-nuclear-after-comey-memos-released
 
Mr Person said:
People who regularly dishonestly whine about bias cite hyper-partisans as gold standard proof. News at 11.
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It's a shame partisan crap like this is even in the BN sub-forum, because with Nunes it's likely better in CT. But such is the reality of the individuals that now run our Congress.
 
eohrnberger said:
Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Paige. How many more of the DOJ / FBI who place politics above duty, law enforcement and integrity?

Then there's a similar pattern at the IRS.
Then there's a similar pattern at the EPA.

How many more similar patterns in other government agencies and departments?

Yes, Obama did weaponize the people's own government against them. It's so clear as to be indisputable now.
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Wait until Trump gets all his people on board. It will just be weaponized the other direction. And you, no doubt, will lead the cheers.
 
vesper said:
It's a must read!

Here's an excerpt!


"The memos also make certain what has become increasingly clear of late: former Director Comey has at least two different standards in his interactions with others. He chose not to memorialize conversations with President Obama, Attorney General Lynch, Secretary Clinton, Andrew McCabe or others, but he immediately began to memorialize conversations with President Trump. It is significant former Director Comey made no effort to memorialize conversations with former Attorney General Lynch despite concerns apparently significant enough to warrant his unprecedented appropriation of the charging decision away from her and the Department of Justice in July of 2016.

These memos also lay bare the notion that former Director Comey is not motivated by animus. He was willing to work for someone he deemed morally unsuited for office, capable of lying, requiring of personal loyalty, worthy of impeachment, and sharing the traits of a mob boss. Former Director Comey was willing to overlook all of the aforementioned characteristics in order to keep his job. In his eyes, the real crime was his own firing.
The memos show Comey was blind to biases within the FBI and had terrible judgment with respect to his deputy Andrew McCabe. On multiple occasions he, in his own words, defended the character of McCabe after President Trump questioned McCabe.
Finally, former Director Comey leaked at least one of these memos for the stated purpose of spurring the appointment of Special Counsel, yet he took no steps to spur the appointment of Special Counsel when he had significant concerns about the objectivity of the Department of Justice under Attorney General Loretta Lynch.
As we have consistently said, rather than making a criminal case for obstruction or interference with an ongoing investigation, these memos would be Defense Exhibit A should such a charge be made."


https://intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=879
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Why the **** would anyone memorialize something if there were no issues about character, trust, truthfulness?

He has SAID he BECAME alarmed at what he was hearing and seeing.

I have never seen more desperation.

You know, Nixon tried this with Dean. Only fools and idiots believed him too.
 
Just days ago, liberals were singing Gowdy's praises.

I bet that changes PDQ.
 
Chomsky said:
Why would anyone believe the filtered opinion of a partisan bull**** artist like Nunes, rather than read the memos themselves? And think for themselves? This is pretty ridiculous.

The memos are widely available online, you know. These politicos are just injecting partisan opinion, rather than factuality. And they're using a terribly partisan & inaccurate opinionist, at that. (Nunes)
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Why? Likely due to a pathological desperate not to have the Fantasy Land, Bull**** Mountain false narrative in any way questioned or disrupted.

Thinking can be painful to some people sometimes.

It's much more comfy to let radical, partisan and bought-and-paid-for hacks do the thinking for them.
 
Barnacle said:
While the WSJ says that Comey claimed a particular memo contained no classified information, the FBI has a different take on that:

"... Comey's leak to the press was illegal - as the FBI's chief FOIA officer, David Hardy, gave a sworn declaration to Judicial Watch in which he says that all seven of Comey's memos were classified at the time they were written, and they remain classified. ..."

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...odlatte-go-nuclear-after-comey-memos-released
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LOL Zero Hedge.

vesper said:
You missed the first paragraph altogether.

"At least two of the memos that former FBI Director James Comey gave to a friend outside of the government contained information that officials now consider classified, according to people familiar with the matter, prompting a review by the Justice Department’s internal watchdog."

Now a thinking person would admit there's a potential problem if the IG is investigating it. But not you.
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Yes, they were upgraded to "confidential" after Comey left. In other words, his memos were not classified at the time of his decision to share them with his friend, and therefore with the press.
 
vesper said:
It's a must read!

Here's an excerpt!


"The memos also make certain what has become increasingly clear of late: former Director Comey has at least two different standards in his interactions with others. He chose not to memorialize conversations with President Obama, Attorney General Lynch, Secretary Clinton, Andrew McCabe or others, but he immediately began to memorialize conversations with President Trump. It is significant former Director Comey made no effort to memorialize conversations with former Attorney General Lynch despite concerns apparently significant enough to warrant his unprecedented appropriation of the charging decision away from her and the Department of Justice in July of 2016.

These memos also lay bare the notion that former Director Comey is not motivated by animus. He was willing to work for someone he deemed morally unsuited for office, capable of lying, requiring of personal loyalty, worthy of impeachment, and sharing the traits of a mob boss. Former Director Comey was willing to overlook all of the aforementioned characteristics in order to keep his job. In his eyes, the real crime was his own firing.
The memos show Comey was blind to biases within the FBI and had terrible judgment with respect to his deputy Andrew McCabe. On multiple occasions he, in his own words, defended the character of McCabe after President Trump questioned McCabe.
Finally, former Director Comey leaked at least one of these memos for the stated purpose of spurring the appointment of Special Counsel, yet he took no steps to spur the appointment of Special Counsel when he had significant concerns about the objectivity of the Department of Justice under Attorney General Loretta Lynch.
As we have consistently said, rather than making a criminal case for obstruction or interference with an ongoing investigation, these memos would be Defense Exhibit A should such a charge be made."


https://intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=879
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He met Obama twice- once at a meeting where many others were present, and when Obama visited the FBI prior to leaving office.
 
vesper said:
Have you caught wind of the latest Cardinal?

"Justice Department watchdog investigating leaked Comey memos over classified information: WSJ
Former FBI Director James Comey leaked memos written shortly after his conversations with President Trump.
The memos were released on Thursday by the Justice Department following requests from House Republican leaders.
Two of the memos he shared with a friend are now considered classified, prompting the Justice Department's watchdog to review the matter."

Boom!

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/20/com...watchdog-over-classified-information-wsj.html
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Only thing going Boom is your BP.
 
Chomsky said:
Why would anyone believe the filtered opinion of a partisan bull**** artist like Nunes, rather than read the memos themselves? And think for themselves? This is pretty ridiculous.

The memos are widely available online, you know. These politicos are just injecting partisan opinion, rather than factuality. And they're using a terribly partisan & inaccurate opinionist, at that. (Nunes)
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That's kinda funny coming from someone who on countless occasions saw Schiff to be highly credible.

Let's just take one of their paragraphs in their statement over McCabe.

"The memos show Comey was blind to biases within the FBI and had terrible judgment with respect to his deputy Andrew McCabe. On multiple occasions he, in his own words, defended the character of McCabe after President Trump questioned McCabe."

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4442900-Ex-FBI-Director-James-Comey-s-memos.html

And today with IG Horowitz's findings Trump had good reason to question McCabe. But let's not stop there Comey is now is pointing fingers at McCabe saying he lied and McCabe's attorneys are pointing their fingers back calling Comey a liar over things that occurred long before Trump was ever sworn into office. You and other lefties seem to forget it was the Democrats that wanted Comey and the FBI investigated over their handling of the Clinton email probe. Horowitz took on the investigation weeks before Trump was sworn in.

YOU ALL have a very convenient memory.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
LOL! Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee (wait for it...) eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....

bunked.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...y-memo-conservatives/558521/?utm_source=atlfb

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/987162035644522496
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Late last night Fox ran a large front-page headline on their website concerning the memos' proving-out the Trump-GOP talking points. I don't remember the exact headline, but it was very definitive sounding.

Taken-back by the large headline, I quickly clicked it and scanned the article. The freaking headline was NOT represented in the body of the article. Not in the least!

Fox does that from time-to-time (headlines unsupported by the article body). And that's what I suspect is occurring here: The body of the memos for the most part do not support Nune's headline claims.
 
vesper said:
That's kinda funny coming from someone who on countless occasions saw Schiff to be highly credible.

Let's just take one of their paragraphs in their statement over McCabe.

"The memos show Comey was blind to biases within the FBI and had terrible judgment with respect to his deputy Andrew McCabe. On multiple occasions he, in his own words, defended the character of McCabe after President Trump questioned McCabe."

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4442900-Ex-FBI-Director-James-Comey-s-memos.html

And today with IG Horowitz's findings Trump had good reason to question McCabe. But let's not stop there Comey is now is pointing fingers at McCabe saying he lied and McCabe's attorneys are pointing their fingers back calling Comey a liar over things that occurred long before Trump was ever sworn into office. You and other lefties seem to forget it was the Democrats that wanted Comey and the FBI investigated over their handling of the Clinton email probe. Horowitz took on the investigation weeks before Trump was sworn in.

YOU ALL have a very convenient memory.
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It's true, I am often in concert with Schiff, but only when I believe his statements are supported by facts or likelihood, based upon what I do believe to be true.

In these types of PR releases like in your OP, there may be some items that will have reasonable accuracy, but for the most part they are partisan hackery. You are getting GOP propaganda, essentially. One would have to be crazy to get one's news or opinion from the political parties, or from Trump himself.

It's far better to use the source documents, then subsequently draw one's own conclusions. Opinion's fine and interesting, but it must gel with the basic facts and source materials.

And Nunes' track record is godawful terrible! No better than Breitbart.
 
tres borrachos said:
I wonder if I'm the only one who sees the irony in your post, given that you are hanging on the words of hyper partisans who you and the other Trump supporters declared useless establishment do nothings.
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It seems like they're now differentiating and sub-segmenting pro-swamp & con-swamp.

So they apparently like their swamp, but not the other guys?
 
rocket88 said:
Wait until Trump gets all his people on board. It will just be weaponized the other direction. And you, no doubt, will lead the cheers.
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That's an interesting point, and will be interesting to see.

Will all those anti-swampers still rally against the swamp, as Trump installs even swampier creatures like Pruitt in their place?

(sorry about all the 'swamp' derivatives used above, I was trying to keep the metaphor consistent)
 
VanceMack said:
Just days ago, liberals were singing Gowdy's praises.

I bet that changes PDQ.
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They change their minds more often than their underwear.. They've always been about exploiting others for their own agenda.
If truth were to be told, they'd say they hate Gowdy.
 
VanceMack said:
Just days ago, liberals were singing Gowdy's praises.

I bet that changes PDQ.
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Celebrating his resignation. Although many believe he should've resigned sooner. But yeah...hip hip hooray, Gowdy is out. Can't wait for his tell all book.
 
Chomsky said:
It's true, I am often in concert with Schiff, but only when I believe his statements are supported by facts or likelihood, based upon what I do believe to be true.

In these types of PR releases like in your OP, there may be some items that will have reasonable accuracy, but for the most part they are partisan hackery. You are getting GOP propaganda, essentially. One would have to be crazy to get one's news or opinion from the political parties, or from Trump himself.

It's far better to use the source documents, then subsequently draw one's own conclusions. Opinion's fine and interesting, but it must gel with the basic facts and source materials.

And Nunes' track record is godawful terrible! No better than Breitbart.
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Without source material there is a good rule of thumb; three newspapers unrelated to each other, if they line up on facts you can be pretty sure you're getting the real goods
 
Cardinal said:
LOL Zero Hedge.



Yes, they were upgraded to "confidential" after Comey left. In other words, his memos were not classified at the time of his decision to share them with his friend, and therefore with the press.
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They were not, and it helps to read what I copy/pasted - Judical Watch is the source that obtained the sworn statement from the FBI.

"Judicial Watch obtained a sworn declaration from David M. Hardy, section chief of the FBI's records management division, stating that all of former FBI Director James Comey's memos were classified at the time they were written. "
 
Parrish said:
Why is the House Intel Com. leaking info that jeopardizes their own investigation and credibility?
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What leak? The memos were scrubbed for general release.

What I want to know is which memos Comey gave his frein-I mean lawyer, since they all have classified data redacted.
 
Barnacle said:
They were not, and it helps to read what I copy/pasted - Judical Watch is the source that obtained the sworn statement from the FBI.

"Judicial Watch obtained a sworn declaration from David M. Hardy, section chief of the FBI's records management division, stating that all of former FBI Director James Comey's memos were classified at the time they were written. "
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And based on that declaration,

http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Defs-MSJ.pdf

I believe that Comey will be charged, too, and will have to use some of that $10 mil he received for his book deal to hire a lawyer.

I'll put it frankly: the FBI declared that Comey lied and leaked classified info.
 
vesper said:
I certainly think it shows a politicization like nothing I have ever seen in my lifetime. And Comey well it certainly makes him out to be one big rat.
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I think the most interesting piece of information confirmed is that Clapper is a scum sucking crapweasel who was working for CNN while operating as DNI, even before he was openly working for CNN. Comey's account goes like this:

1) Clapper tells Comey that Trump super needs to hear about the Steele dossier because CNN is working on a story and is just looking for a hook to make it news worthy

2) Comey meets with Trump and tells them about the Steele Dossier

and then...

3) TA DA!!
 
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