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Ted Nugent calls Parkland survivors 'liars' and 'soulless' in interview

apdst said:
Some of the most vocal ones were never in danger. So, they can't be survivors. I wonder where Emma Gonzalez was when the shooting went down. They owe it to the country to be honest about how close they were to the scene of the slaughter.
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The kids were lot closer than some White Trash piece of **** like Nugent was
 
Top Cat said:
That's a crock of ****. Anyone in that school was in danger.
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Not everyone. Only the people in the line of fire were in danger. The SRO sure as hell never was in danger.
 
apdst said:
Not everyone. Only the people in the line of fire were in danger. The SRO sure as hell never was in danger.
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So if you are in your bedroom on the 2nd floor of your house and an armed robber breaks into your house but seems to be focused on the things in your first floor living room, would you not consider you and your family upstairs “in danger”?
 
Grim17 said:
Ted Nugent's words were a rebuke of the mainstream news media. He believes that the mainstream news media are the ones who are responsible for "lying" to those students.

He called them "soulless" for a couple of reasons. One because they are following the MSM's lead by making "guns" the problem that needs addressing, rather than focusing on what has caused so many people in our society to engage in these mass murders, and because they completely ignore the rights of law abiding people who use firearms to protect their families and property.

Personally I think Nugent's comments were a little harsh and a bit over the top (as they usually are), but no more so than the people who cry out "...but their children", which is nothing but phony outrage expressed to push a partisan political agenda.


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The students were witness to what caused the mass murder in their school....an AR-15 semi-automatic. Had Cruz just had a knife or a bat...a lot fewer lives would've been lost. But then, if he didn't have easy access to a gun, he may not have committed the crime at all.


Comparing Nugents disgusting comments to those that want to protect children is about as low as it gets, Grim. So don't pretend that you don't have a partisan political agenda.
 
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The only complaint I have on what he said I think,,,,if I heard it all maybe not....is that these kids are soulless.

I do not know what he is trying to say..... I expect that it is that there is no there there, that these kids are not whole people, that they a more like a hive of partially formed half wits than humans....but maybe not.
 
Top Cat said:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/31/politics/nra-member-calls-parkland-survivors-liars/index.html

Flaming asshole being a flaming asshole. Worthless piece of **** that he is
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Nugent’s message is correct. I wouldn’t have used liars, but ignorant youth being used as tools by liars, and the soulless are the political activist adults using these kids.

The Democrats have had ample time to come up with a solution to the problem, and all they can seem to come up with is separating the public from their guns.

That is moronic, but that’s the Left.

Think of the consequences of letting criminals have guns, and disarming the public?

Think about a government in 50, 100 or 300-years and what they could inflict on a defenseless populous?

Think of what has happened at gun free zones called schools already!!! These areas have become killing fields as the criminals know it will take time until those with weapons (police) arrive on the scene.

And what’s their solution... repeal the 2nd amendment... Doh!

Leftists aren’t much for thinking clearly... and then they send children to fight their political battles... so Leftists can react as Top Hat has when an adult calls out the political tools being abused by Leftists.

Leftists aren’t only thick, they’re cowards.
 
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Linc said:
Soulless, pedophile tess is a major fund-raiser for today’s gop, such as Texas Gov. Abbott, up for re-election. section eight nuge is also a prolific fund-raiser for Texas Sen. TrusTed Cruz, another one one up for reelection. Those two are the ones to boycott and work against, where it hurts the gop the most.

It’s HDS for the militant militia of today’s self-’right’eous nra, Hogg Derangement Syndrome. These folks are like the sheriff of Colorado fame in Rambo.

It was 50 years ago when I saw the assassinations of RFK and MLK. David and his family have now had their lives threatened, like the Sandy Hook Parents, who were intimidated and scared into silence and submission.

That’s who and what we’re dealing with, and we’re only in the second inning, as nuge just struck out. The next time he bats, it’s time for a little rhetorical ‘chin’ music ...
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:bolt
 
CMPancake said:
This question is representative of everything wrong with both American Conservatism and politics as a whole.
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Incorrect, as that question and the person asking it is NOT representative of American Conservatism as a whole.
 
Moot said:
The students were witness to what caused the mass murder in their school....an AR-15 semi-automatic. Had Cruz just had a knife or a bat...a lot fewer lives would've been lost. But then, if he didn't have easy access to a gun, he may not have committed the crime at all.


Comparing Nugents disgusting comments to those that want to protect children is about as low as it gets, Grim. So don't pretend that you don't have a partisan political agenda.
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Or he could have made a bomb and there would be no survivors.
 
Moot said:
The students were witness to what caused the mass murder in their school....an AR-15 semi-automatic. Had Cruz just had a knife or a bat...a lot fewer lives would've been lost. But then, if he didn't have easy access to a gun, he may not have committed the crime at all.
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I think that is a legitimate point. Raising the age to purchase a weapon to 21 makes a great deal of sense. Kind of difficult to do a background check on someone with no background as an adult to check. But there was a whole string of failures that led to this tragedy from the local school board all the way up to the FBI, yet that has been ignored so that the media and the left can focus a political attack on the NRA.
 
Moot said:
The students were witness to what caused the mass murder in their school....an AR-15 semi-automatic. Had Cruz just had a knife or a bat...a lot fewer lives would've been lost. But then, if he didn't have easy access to a gun, he may not have committed the crime at all.


Comparing Nugents disgusting comments to those that want to protect children is about as low as it gets, Grim. So don't pretend that you don't have a partisan political agenda.
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The children are following a script that sounds like programed talking points. The soul has to do with our unique individuality. The children appear to be under the spell of mass programming; collective soul of the mob, instead of individual souls. Have no soul meant have lose their uniqueness.

If unique children took the time to study history, instead of memorize programmed revisionists history, they would know that assault rifles were banned as part of a comprehensive crime bill, signed by former President Bill Clinton in 1994. This protest is right out of the Clinton play book, circa 1994. In 2004, the assault riffle ban was lifted because there was no change in crime statistics due to that ban. In other words, even if this generation of children were to get their way, the odds are their fantasy of safety and peace may not pan out. This was already tried and it was not the solution. I m assuming the children want a solution and not just a buzz.

The question is how do you wake up the students, from their collective misinformation overload, so they will look at the facts of history and maybe come up with new and innovative ways to make themselves and everyone safer. The young people can be creative. Ted Nugents was using a tough love approach to shock the kids, but the result was another dose of zombie drugs.

Yesterday afternoon I had some unique insight into the left promoted gun ban. There is actually a good reason for this, that may not be obvious. If you look at the programing by the left, it currently involves a lot of fear and hate; safes spaces to temper tantrums. There are also a wide range of preprogrammed verbal triggers, that can set off there strong emotions. The most programmed audio trigger is the word, Trump. Although fear and hate are the strongest human motivators and are easy to program into students, there is a toxic side affect that the left appears to be aware of, and is trying to avoid, via the gun ban.

Picture, hypothetically, if the left was pro-gun. On top of this they continue to program students using fear and hate propaganda, that can be triggered with a wide range of sound triggers; PC taboo words. The result would be a very dangerous situation for the country. For example, picture the Berkley Riots last year, that was induce by only the prospect of one person trying to speak, outside the acceptable programming. If we added left wing pro-guns to this scenario, there would have been a lot of killing, as the angry mob loses its self control. The left wing leadership is well aware of this toxic smoke side affect, to their hate and fear programming. The donor class does not want the controlled reaction to get out of control. The left has set up a relief valve, called anti-gun, to protect everyone from the toxic smoke of the left wing programming.

Picture the million man march being led by pro-gun leftists, all packing registered and illegal hand guns. Washington may have become a battle field if one trigger set off the mob and its goes unconscious. The 1960's was the love generation. There was also lot of fear and hate programming against the war and against Nixon. The left was not pro-gun, or else there may have been a violent revolution. The left appears to be aware of the toxic smoke stemming from fear/hate programming. Their donor class wants power and pays for this, but it does not want the house all busted up. They fear the dog going mad, and getting off the leash.

The Conservative like guns and many carry guns. Many people carried guns during the Tea Party Rallies. However, Conservative demonstrations tend to be more lawful, orderly and less spontaneous. There is far less toxic smoke to filter. The guns did no lead to gun fight riots even though there were counter protesters paid to incite riots.

The children of the left are projecting their internally induced toxic smoke, due to years of fear and hate programming. They unconsciously fear what they might do and wha they might become, and are trying to protect everyone. We really need to look at what is being fed and programed into the children, in terms of political propaganda, to make sure this programing does not create to much unconscious toxic smoke. It is OK to be political but this is better done without toxic smoke side affects.
 
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Consider the number of demonstrations and riots, by the left over the past 200 years, that led to violence. Imagine a pro-gun left over that same time span with the same demonstrations? The Democrat party, of old, had both at one time, in the south; KKK. They are trying to separate from this dark past, but have only changed one variable; guns. There is still hate programming, lynch mobs like on CNN and internet sites, but no guns are allowed. That is the main difference. Programming has become more affective and the smoke is more toxic.

A compromise is maybe guns should be banned for all registered Democrats, to protect us all. Half the gun battle can be won by the left doing what they want. If members of the left gain their soul back; individuality, the ban can be lifted on a case by case basis. Once they detach from mob thinking there is less danger.
 
holbritter said:
Incorrect, as that question and the person asking it is NOT representative of American Conservatism as a whole.
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Nugent absolutely represents American Conservatism as the Black Hole it is today. Instead of rebuking this guncuck’s decades-long filth like calling the Obamas ‘sub-human mongrels’, today’s American Conservatives grovel at the trough of Saint Teddie’s prolific fund-raising. NO MORE ...
 
wellwisher said:
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If unique children took the time to study history, instead of memorize programmed revisionists history, they would know that assault rifles were banned as part of a comprehensive crime bill, signed by former President Bill Clinton in 1994. This protest is right out of the Clinton play book, circa 1994. .....
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Paperview said:


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Your post that can’t be liked enough. On this chilly Easter Sunday, in the spirit of Holy Week, we’d all take Saint Ronnie over Saint Ted and Saint Spanky, in. a. heartbeat ...
 
There is an interesting tactical discussion located at Gun Rights Advocates Are Becoming Unhinged.

The main point of the discussion is the parallelism between the tactical conduct of the "PRO-Gun Nuts" and the "ANTI-Civil Rights Nuts" and that the tactical conduct of the "PRO-Gun Nuts" (which actually comprise a very small percentage of gun owners) is as likely to harm their cause as the tactical conduct of the "ANTI-Civil Rights Nuts" harmed theirs.

You might also want to note that the linked comment doesn't say that the "PRO-Gun Nuts" are WRONG, only that they are behaving in a manner that is likely to hurt their cause (you can read that as "being stupid" if you want to).
 
Grim17 said:
... rather than focusing on what has caused so many people in our society to engage in these mass murders, ...
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No one (well, ALMOST no one) actually wants to look at that one because it's too painful.

Besides, it's so much simpler to put

MORE
GUNS​

or

NO
MORE
GUNS
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on a picket sign than it is to put

WE HAVE TO EXAMINE THE
REAL REASON WHY PEOPLE
THINK THAT IT'S O.K. TO
KILL OTHER PEOPLE OVER
SILLY THINGS AND CHANGE
IT​

on one.
 
I am pro gun & pro 2nd Amendment but Terrible Ted needs to just go crawl in a hole & piss off ..........
 
When Ted Nugent finally sheds this mortal coil, the rest of humanity will be better off for his no longer being one of us.
 
haymarket said:
When Ted Nugent finally sheds this mortal coil, the rest of humanity will be better off for his no longer being one of us.
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once that occurs, if ole Teddy is man enuff to have a marked grave site, I will gladly go piss on it and water the flowers ............
 
cuban smokes said:
once that occurs, if ole Teddy is man enuff to have a marked grave site, I will gladly go piss on it and water the flowers ............
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I suspect nothing would grow there in the first place.
 
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