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NRA Says It Receives Foreign Funds, But None Goes To Election Work - NPR [W:211]

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https://www.npr.org/2018/03/27/5972...-foreign-funds-but-none-goes-to-election-work

The National Rifle Association acknowledged that it accepts foreign donations but says it does not use them for election work — even as federal investigators look into the role the NRA might have played in Russia's attack on the 2016 election.

Pressure on the organization has also been increased by a McClatchy report that suggested that the FBI had been investigating whether a top Russian banker with Kremlin ties illegally funneled money to the NRA to aid Donald Trump's campaign for president. The Federal Election Commission has also opened a preliminary investigation into this question.
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Trump, Russia & the NRA - the perfect nexus of political corruption.
 
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JacksinPA said:
https://www.npr.org/2018/03/27/5972...-foreign-funds-but-none-goes-to-election-work

The National Rifle Association acknowledged that it accepts foreign donations but says it does not use them for election work — even as federal investigators look into the role the NRA might have played in Russia's attack on the 2016 election.

Pressure on the organization has also been increased by a McClatchy report that suggested that the FBI had been investigating whether a top Russian banker with Kremlin ties illegally funneled money to the NRA to aid Donald Trump's campaign for president. The Federal Election Commission has also opened a preliminary investigation into this question.
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Trump, Russia & the NRA - the perfect nexus of political corruption.
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Many non-profit orgs accept donations from outside the country. Are they all lying and using that money for political work? Or just the ones that you don't like?
 
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Kal'Stang said:
Many non-profit orgs accept donations from outside the country. Are they all lying and using that money for political work? Or just the ones that you don't like?
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With guns & the NRA being political hot buttons that help sway elections, I'm suspicious of any foreign support for that group. It smacks of political corruption.

Where is the accounting as to how the foreign money was spent? Just take their word for it? LMFAO!

cor·rup·tion
kəˈrəpSH(ə)n
noun
1.
dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery.
"the journalist who wants to expose corruption in high places"
synonyms: dishonesty, unscrupulousness, double-dealing, fraud, fraudulence, misconduct, crime, criminality, wrongdoing;
 
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Kal'Stang said:
Many non-profit orgs accept donations from outside the country. Are they all lying and using that money for political work? Or just the ones that you don't like?
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So let us see their bookkeeping and internal procedures and if they are set up to prevent that sort of illegal violation of the law. That should be interesting.
 
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haymarket said:
So let us see their bookkeeping and internal procedures and if they are set up to prevent that sort of illegal violation of the law. That should be interesting.
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If they are telling the truth & stand by that statement, let's see their books.

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'Thoughts and prayers' and fistfuls of NRA money: Why America can't control guns (a grim update)

'Thoughts and prayers' and fistfuls of NRA money: Why America can't control guns (a grim update)

President Trump, in a pro-forma public statement on the Parkland, Fla., shooting, ordered flags on government buildings to be flown at half-mast through Monday, but didn't call for any reconsideration of the nation's inexcusably lax gun laws. Last February, he scrapped an Obama-era regulation making it tougher for people with mental illnesses to buy a gun.

Perhaps Trump doesn't want to risk disturbing the NRA, which spent more than $30 million in 2016 to support him and defeat his opponent, Hillary Clinton. (These figures come from the Center for Responsive Politics.)
 
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JacksinPA said:
With guns & the NRA being political hot buttons that help sway elections, I'm suspicious of any foreign support for that group. It smacks of political corruption.

Where is the accounting as to how the foreign money was spent? Just take their word for it? LMFAO!

cor·rup·tion
kəˈrəpSH(ə)n
noun
1.
dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery.
"the journalist who wants to expose corruption in high places"
synonyms: dishonesty, unscrupulousness, double-dealing, fraud, fraudulence, misconduct, crime, criminality, wrongdoing;
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In other words its just because you don't like them.
 
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haymarket said:
So let us see their bookkeeping and internal procedures and if they are set up to prevent that sort of illegal violation of the law. That should be interesting.
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Their book keeping and internal procedures are none of your business. Mueller can look in the course of his investigation, but its none of your business.
 
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FBI investigating whether Russia funneled cash to NRA to aid Trump's campaign | McClatchy Washington Bureau

President Trump addressed the National Rifle Association (NRA) convention on April 28, 2017. He’s the first president to do so in more than 30 years. “The eight-year assault on your second amendment freedoms has come to a crashing end,” Trump said.

FBI investigating whether Russian money went to NRA to help Trump

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The FBI is investigating whether a top Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency, two sources familiar with the matter have told McClatchy.

FBI counterintelligence investigators have focused on the activities of Alexander Torshin, the deputy governor of Russia’s central bank who is known for his close relationships with both Russian President Vladimir Putin and the NRA, the sources said.

It is illegal to use foreign money to influence federal elections.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
Their book keeping and internal procedures are none of your business. Mueller can look in the course of his investigation, but its none of your business.
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It's my business because I am a citizen of this country & I am shocked to see foreign (read Russian) money helping to undermine our democracy as it has.

Are you OK with this kind of international appearance of political corruption?
 
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Kal'Stang said:
Many non-profit orgs accept donations from outside the country. Are they all lying and using that money for political work? Or just the ones that you don't like?
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Why should the National Rifle Association be receiving international funding? Why is foreign influence of domestic issues acceptable in an organisation that promotes American values, particularly funding from citizens of nations with much stricter gun control laws?
 
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https://www.motherjones.com/politic...nnection-maria-butina-alexander-torshin-guns/

The Very Strange Case of Two Russian Gun Lovers, the NRA, and Donald Trump
Here’s what we uncovered about an odd pair from Moscow who cultivated the Trump campaign.

For more than a year, reports have trickled out about deepening ties among prominent members of the National Rifle Association, conservative Republicans, a budding gun-rights movement in Russia—and their convergence in the Trump campaign.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
Their book keeping and internal procedures are none of your business. Mueller can look in the course of his investigation, but its none of your business.
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If such an influential organization broke the law, then it is absolutely our business. Unless you are okay with corruption?
 
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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/16/nra-russia-election-donations-fec-investigation-468661

FEC probes whether NRA got illegal Russian donations

Complaint alleges that the gun-rights group may have received contributions intended to help the 2016 Trump campaign.

The Federal Election Commission has launched a preliminary investigation into whether Russian entities gave illegal contributions to the National Rifle Association that were intended to benefit the Trump campaign during the 2016 presidential election, according to people who were notified of the probe.

The inquiry stems in part from a complaint from a liberal advocacy group, the American Democracy Legal Fund, which asked the FEC to look into media reports about links between the rifle association and Russian entities, including a banker with close ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin.
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I'm not the only one who is concerned about Russian money manipulating our elections via the NRA.
 
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This sounds suspiciously similar to another organization...Planned Parenthood. They receive millions from the feds, but using any of that for abortion services is illegal. But they assure us that no federal money goes to abortions.

We believe them, right?
 
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Kal'Stang said:
Their book keeping and internal procedures are none of your business. Mueller can look in the course of his investigation, but its none of your business.
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That is not for you as an individual to say. The authorities who represent the people will decide what is the peoples business and if they decide the bookkeeping of the NRA is the peoples business to determine if they broke the law - then we will see that done.
 
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JacksinPA said:
https://www.npr.org/2018/03/27/5972...-foreign-funds-but-none-goes-to-election-work

The National Rifle Association acknowledged that it accepts foreign donations but says it does not use them for election work — even as federal investigators look into the role the NRA might have played in Russia's attack on the 2016 election.

Pressure on the organization has also been increased by a McClatchy report that suggested that the FBI had been investigating whether a top Russian banker with Kremlin ties illegally funneled money to the NRA to aid Donald Trump's campaign for president. The Federal Election Commission has also opened a preliminary investigation into this question.
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Trump, Russia & the NRA - the perfect nexus of political corruption.
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Donations to NRA PAC triple in February
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.dailycaller.com/2018/03/27/nra-donations-triple/

Keep it up folks ! Attacking the NRA while ignoring the numerous Govt failures at the Local, State and Federal levels AAANND the gunman is filling up the NRAs coffers and increasing their member ranks exponentially !

Talk about picking your battles, Liberals are just clueless.
 
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I posted this before. Where did all this screeching about Russians invading the NRA come from? Why from Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b01d91b2542465
Glenn Simpson, co-founder of the firm behind the infamous dossier on President Donald Trump’s potential connections to Russia, told Congress that he believes the Russian government has “infiltrated” the National Rifle Association.

“It appears the Russians, you know, infiltrated the NRA,” Fusion GPS co-founder Simpson said while testifying before the House Intelligence Committee on Nov. 14. His testimony was part of a federal investigation into potential links between the Kremlin and Trump’s 2016 campaign associates.
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JacksinPA said:
It's my business because I am a citizen of this country & I am shocked to see foreign (read Russian) money helping to undermine our democracy as it has.

Are you OK with this kind of international appearance of political corruption?
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From your own source in the OP:

In 2015 to 2016, Frazer continued, the NRA received money from companies based in the U.S. that may be owned or managed by foreign nationals. "However, none of those entities or individuals is connected with Russia, and none of their contributions were made in connection with U.S. elections," Frazer added.
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JacksinPA said:
It's my business because I am a citizen of this country & I am shocked to see foreign (read Russian) money helping to undermine our democracy as it has.

Are you OK with this kind of international appearance of political corruption?
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Haymarket said "So let us see". Meaning he wants to actually see them. That is not anyone's business but theirs and an investigators business. If they are charged with a crime then and only then may we be privy to such details via court proceedings, and even then it could be a closed session in which case its still none of our business beyond whether they're guilty of something or not.
 
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I support the NRA, and I am an American.

I would prefer the NRA accept financial support from Americans only; not from any other, non American sources.
 
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spud_meister said:
Why should the National Rifle Association be receiving international funding? Why is foreign influence of domestic issues acceptable in an organisation that promotes American values, particularly funding from citizens of nations with much stricter gun control laws?
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They do far more than just political lobbying. The money can be used for that. Just like Planned Parenthood can receive federal dollars and yet none of it goes towards abortion.
 
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In 2015 to 2016, Frazer continued, the NRA received money from companies based in the U.S. that may be owned or managed by foreign nationals. "However, none of those entities or individuals is connected with Russia, and none of their contributions were made in connection with U.S. elections," Frazer added.
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I'm not willing to accept this guy's statement as fact or truth.
 
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Phys251 said:
If such an influential organization broke the law, then it is absolutely our business. Unless you are okay with corruption?
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If they broke the law yes. However Haymarket said "So let us see". There is a difference between it being our business if they broke the law and actually advocating to see their book keeping and internal documents on the assumption that they have broken the law.
 
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