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Video From the Fatal Uber Self-Driving Car Crash Has Been Released

This is all on uber no doubt about it.
that car didn't even slow down for some reason.

maybe a sensor on it was not working right or something.
 
How would it be the drivers fault, you couldn't see her the car was right on top of her

Seems like the technology should have detected the pedestrian

But yet again, a dumb pedestrian not looking out for themselves and being stupid. Walking with dark clothes across a dark road and taking their sweat ass time
 
I've been driving around the Phoenix area for months. People here really do walk and ride around at night in dark clothing. And seeing someone walk out in front of a car is not uncommon.
 
celticwar17 said:
I honestly don't feel the same way. Seems like most humans would have also crash into the woman.
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Or possibly done their natural reflex and slammed on the brakes or swerve which may likely have resulted in their own injury.

It's unfortunate this lady was hit but it was dark and the bike has no reflectors on it, you would think she wouldn't be walking in the street when she could see the lights from the car.
 
Sampson Simpson said:
How would it be the drivers fault, you couldn't see her the car was right on top of her

Seems like the technology should have detected the pedestrian
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I'm surprised it didn't have infrared cameras.
 
Seems like I can find blame on all levels.
Why can't the car pick up moving objects not illuminated by headlights?
Why would someone walk their bike across a busy road at glacial pace, let alone when a car is obviously coming from their right? (assuming this person isn't a Londoner).
Why is the Uber back-up driver seemingly busy on their phone instead of looking at the road?
 
What? Someone actually thought this experiment was not going to mimic a real driver? That accidents would just stop happening?

DUH!
 
celticwar17 said:
I honestly don't feel the same way. Seems like most humans would have also crash into the woman.
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An excellent case could made that the same thing would have happened with a human driver but clearly the Uber radar was not working. the car didnt slow at all. the lady (however stupid) was simply walking across the street. The story should have been"Uber technology saves a life by "seeing" a pedestrian at night."
 
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Yes, the technology appears to have failed somehow, AND the lady appeared to be not looking towards oncoming traffic. She sure picked a bad time and place to cross the road. A pity.
 
I recant what I have previously stated. The video shows I was wrong in my take on it. While the woman should not have been crossing at night like that, and it shows she is totally unaware of her surroundings (you see a car coming and just keep walking??) The uber driver is also unaware and not paying attention.
 
The woman is at fault for the accident.




Arizona Laws 28-793
Crossing at other than crosswalk

A. A pedestrian crossing a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles on the roadway.

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Arizona Laws 28-793. Crossing at other than crosswalk​
 
Excon said:
The woman is at fault for the accident.




Arizona Laws 28-793
Crossing at other than crosswalk

A. A pedestrian crossing a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles on the roadway.

[...]​

Arizona Laws 28-793. Crossing at other than crosswalk​
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While the woman may well be at fault, those of us who drive on unlit streets also pay special attention to the sides of the road for stuff like critters and pedestrians. There are sections of road on my way home from the office that are notorious for bicycles riding against traffic, pedestrians in the middle of the street, coyotes and idiots that figure everyone else on the road should pay attention to them instead of the other way around. An attentive human driver should have picked the woman up early enough to stop or at least slow down.

The same goes for an attentive "safety driver".
 
celticwar17 said:
I honestly don't feel the same way. Seems like most humans would have also crash into the woman.
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She was walking her bike across the highway. I would presume an headless car has something more sophisticated than headlights since in the city things come at you from all sides, day and night. Also, there was sufficient time for a human driver (not the dolt 'back up driver'), to have hit the brakes and still hit her, but not has hard. Or swerved. The headless car treated her as invisible, which is what the lawsuit will be about. If there was an attempt to panic stop, then Mr. Headless has a case. It did not look like that to me. And regarding the "back up driver", how can you keep concentration when you are not driving. No wonder they hired a dolt for the job. I don't blame him even if he is really there to be a fall guy for the headless industry.

Lets not forget they want to eliminate truck drivers now. 40 tons of headless God only knows what rolling down the interstate in a tractor trailer rig called "Christine".
 
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Sampson Simpson said:
How would it be the drivers fault, you couldn't see her the car was right on top of her

Seems like the technology should have detected the pedestrian

But yet again, a dumb pedestrian not looking out for themselves and being stupid. Walking with dark clothes across a dark road and taking their sweat ass time
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This is a habit I've seen more and more pedestrians doing. They take their sweet ass time crossing the road even with oncoming traffic coming at them and in some cases the traffic has to actually slow down. I was always taught that you should cross the road quickly. As my father taught me, if you get hit in a crosswalk by a truck, you have the right away but will be dead. Always look and move quickly.
 
Sampson Simpson said:
How would it be the drivers fault, you couldn't see her the car was right on top of her

Seems like the technology should have detected the pedestrian

But yet again, a dumb pedestrian not looking out for themselves and being stupid. Walking with dark clothes across a dark road and taking their sweat ass time
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The driver is there for a reason, as a backup just in case the self driving system failed, and boy did it fail

This is on Uber, and the driver who had her head down when the car struck the pedestrian
 
americanwoman said:
Or possibly done their natural reflex and slammed on the brakes or swerve which may likely have resulted in their own injury.

It's unfortunate this lady was hit but it was dark and the bike has no reflectors on it, you would think she wouldn't be walking in the street when she could see the lights from the car.
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Why do you think the bike had no reflectors on it?
 
holbritter said:
I recant what I have previously stated. The video shows I was wrong in my take on it. While the woman should not have been crossing at night like that, and it shows she is totally unaware of her surroundings (you see a car coming and just keep walking??) The uber driver is also unaware and not paying attention.
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The first story was that the woman jumped out from behind another vehicle, which I can understand why a sensor would not sense her until it was too late.

That was not the case here.

The woman was crossing a wide street with cars on the other side as well.

Even though it was dark a human driver should have been able to see her walking across from way back by the reflection of the lights from the other cars.

Do you posters that defended this technology stil feel the same?
 
Excon said:
The woman is at fault for the accident.




Arizona Laws 28-793
Crossing at other than crosswalk

A. A pedestrian crossing a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles on the roadway.

[...]​

Arizona Laws 28-793. Crossing at other than crosswalk​
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Good luck with that.

If there was a possibility to avoid the accident it is incumbent on the driver to do that.

Drivers can't just run down people because they are out of the cross walk.
 
Fenton said:
The driver is there for a reason, as a backup just in case the self driving system failed, and boy did it fail

This is on Uber, and the driver who had her head down when the car struck the pedestrian
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That was a her?
 
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