Ohio Student Suspended for Refusing to Leave Classroom During Gun Control Walkout

gdgyva · Mar 16, 2018

Hatuey said:
So he wanted to stay in a classroom unsupervised instead of going to a study hall where he would be supervised.... and you think this is part of an agenda?

why wasnt is teacher in his class actually you know, teaching?

Hatuey · Mar 16, 2018

cuban smokes said:
kids go to school to learn, in a class room; not to take 'time off' and go protest

this one kid did the right thing then he gets shafted ............... sad ..........

He was allowed to not take time off and join other students in a supervised study hall.

He chose to stay in the unsupervised classroom which, independently of whether or not students are protesting, is not allowed.

I don't get why this is that big of an issue for anyone.

Sent from a memo written by Nunes and edited by Trump.

Slyfox696 · Mar 16, 2018

Renae said:
He didn't want to take sides. So he stayed in class, he protested in his own way. I found it amusing, I know you won't get the point, you're edgy.

So...your point is you are supporting poor decisions? Great cause there, Renae. :roll:

Bodhisattva said:
Well... you are wrong. Suspension is completely over the top. That is for fighting or bullying or swearing at teachers... not sitting calmly in a classroom. Detention would be appropriate.

I suspect there were probably other factors. There almost always are. But since schools are legally prohibited from discussing student issues, you only get one side of the story.

gdgyva said:
why wasnt is teacher in his class actually you know, teaching?

Because if there are 25 students in the class, it sounds as if the other 24 students were not. Wouldn't the teacher need to be where almost every other one of their students are?

Ikari · Mar 16, 2018

Hatuey said:
So he wanted to stay in a classroom unsupervised instead of going to a study hall where he would be supervised.... and you think this is part of an agenda?

Where the hell did the teacher go? If he had a class at that time, and staid in the classroom, there should also have been a teacher for that class. What happened to the teacher? Why was he offered an a study hall area? If the students wanted to walk out of class, that's their choice. But if someone wanted to stay in class, why were they not allowed?

Saladin4 · Mar 16, 2018

This is outrageous...Time to shut down these public schools...Fire and arrest the teachers, or send them re-educaution camps...Send the students to Christian Military Schools where they can be taught the one true way..Teach them to kneel before God and Country...and our Great Leader

Slyfox696 · Mar 16, 2018

Ikari said:
Where the hell did the teacher go? If he had a class at that time, and staid in the classroom, there should also have been a teacher for that class. What happened to the teacher?

The teacher was probably supervising in other places.

If you have 25 students in the class, 18 of them demonstrate and 6 of them go to study hall, then it is a waste of supervising resources to keep the teacher in the classroom for this one student.

Why was he offered an a study hall area?

Because it is likely most of the students demonstrated so those who didn't want to could have a place to go to be supervised.

If the students wanted to walk out of class, that's their choice. But if someone wanted to stay in class, why were they not allowed?

Because there would be no one to watch them.

If the students walk out but stay on school property during school time, then the school has to supervise them. It's the law.

Hatuey · Mar 16, 2018

gdgyva said:
why wasnt is teacher in his class actually you know, teaching?

Oh boy, here we go.

Teachers don't get paid to teach a single student. They get paid to teach classrooms. If the majority of the classroom isn't there, schools take cost cutting measures, and group up all of the students in study halls. This was absolutely normal when I was in HS and still is.

I remember once my 7th grade phys. Ed class going to a sports museum, my parents didn't sign my permission slip so I had to stay behind with fat kids and this cute Spanish girl. We were all rounded up, sent to a classroom with kids from diff. Home rooms and told to study. What we couldn't do was stay behind in our classrooms without a teacher.

Again, why is this so complicated for people?

Sent from a memo written by Nunes and edited by Trump.

Ikari · Mar 16, 2018

Slyfox696 said:
The teacher was probably supervising in other places.

Why? It's the teacher's classroom and it's their responsibility. One has no responsibility to kids who want to walk out of class in protest. They can, of course, but it's not the school's responsibility for them. They have elected to leave the school in protest.

Slyfox696 said:
If you have 25 students in the class, 18 of them demonstrate and 6 of them go to study hall, then it is a waste of supervising resources to keep the teacher in the classroom for this one student.

The school shouldn't have been facilitating or participating in a student walkout. The job of the school is to teach. So 18 walk out, that's on them. They don't need a "study hall". Teacher stays in class and teaches the ones who remained.

Slyfox696 said:
Because it is likely most of the students demonstrated so those who didn't want to could have a place to go to be supervised.

They didn't need to go anywhere. They were in a classroom with a teacher. Those who walked out walked out on their own. The teacher stays in the class and teaches those who remain.

Slyfox696 said:
Because there would be no one to watch them.

If the students walk out but stay on school property during school time, then the school has to supervise them. It's the law.

The school shouldn't be facilitating walkouts. If the students wanted to walk out, they should walk out of school and leave school grounds. Otherwise, they can be detained and returned to their classes.

Hatuey · Mar 16, 2018

Ikari said:
Where the hell did the teacher go? If he had a class at that time, and staid in the classroom, there should also have been a teacher for that class. What happened to the teacher? Why was he offered an a study hall area? If the students wanted to walk out of class, that's their choice. But if someone wanted to stay in class, why were they not allowed?

This is normally a cost cutting measure. If most students aren't showing up to class - they are rounded up and sent to study halls where they are allowed to complete assignments. Again, nothing about this is abnormal if you've been in an American HS within the last 20-25 years.

Sent from a memo written by Nunes and edited by Trump.

faithful_servant · Mar 16, 2018

Hatuey said:
So he wanted to stay in a classroom unsupervised instead of going to a study hall where he would be supervised.... and you think this is part of an agenda?

By having a plan for this walkout, the school made it a sanctioned event. That means that the school was taking sides in a political policy issue and that should NEVER be allowed in our schools. Being a sanctioned event most certainly does make it part of an agenda.

Ikari · Mar 16, 2018

Hatuey said:
This is normally a cost cutting measure. If most students aren't showing up to class - they are rounded up and sent to study halls where they are allowed to complete assignments. Again, nothing about this is abnormal if you've been in an American HS within the last 20-25 years.

Sent from a memo written by Nunes and edited by Trump.

I just barely made that cut off, lol. I have been in an American HS within the last 25 years. Our school didn't sponsor walkouts and teachers taught classes in their classrooms. If people skipped class, the teachers didn't leave the class, even if many students did skip like on a Sr. Skip Day.

ecofarm · Mar 16, 2018

Ikari said:
Why? It's the teacher's classroom and it's their responsibility. One has no responsibility to kids who want to walk out of class in protest. They can, of course, but it's not the school's responsibility for them. They have elected to leave the school in protest.

Haha. It's not college. Let's say some students walk out and the day goes on as normal. Outside the school, it's a block party. Students are arrested for alcohol and weed, and one is hit by a car. "Where were the teachers!?"

It's ludicrous to pretend teachers and the school can ignore the whole thing.

bubbabgone · Mar 16, 2018

sangha said:
He sounds like an attention-whoring crisis actor trying to cash out by creating his own 5 minutes of fame.

Ikari · Mar 16, 2018

ecofarm said:
Haha. It's not college. Let's say some students walk out and the day goes on as normal. Outside the school, it's a block party. Students are arrested for alcohol and weed, and one is hit by a car. "Where were the teachers!?"

It's totally ludicrous to pretend teachers and the school can just ignore the whole thing.

They don't have to ignore it. People skipping classes can be punished for such. If there is a disturbance or engaged in illegal activities or otherwise behaving recklessly and dangerously, the police can be called.

Grand Mal · Mar 16, 2018

Renae said:
Of course you aren't.

He was suspended for not going to the study hall, because the school couldn't leave him unsupervised. Isn't that what your link says?

vesper · Mar 16, 2018

A kid who was faced with two choices and couldn't justify either because he seen both as being political. And for that he gets suspended?

SMH He didn't follow the rules and for that some kind of punishment but suspended? Geesh

But those who did head to study hall or outside in protest in a school in SC, evidently they left their personal belongings in the classroom and the custodian helped herself the their money. She managed to steal 180 bucks.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...walkout/ar-BBKiM04?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

Hatuey · Mar 16, 2018

faithful_servant said:
By having a plan for this walkout, the school made it a sanctioned event. That means that the school was taking sides in a political policy issue and that should NEVER be allowed in our schools. Being a sanctioned event most certainly does make it part of an agenda.

Lmao - the school accomodated students who wanted to stay in school, and those who chose to walk out. Seems reasonable. :shrug:

Sent from a memo written by Nunes and edited by Trump.

Grand Mal · Mar 16, 2018

faithful_servant said:
By having a plan for this walkout, the school made it a sanctioned event. That means that the school was taking sides in a political policy issue and that should NEVER be allowed in our schools. Being a sanctioned event most certainly does make it part of an agenda.

The suspension, that's what the post you're replying to was about. Not the walkout. The suspension was not part of an agenda.

Saladin4 · Mar 16, 2018

Grand Mal said:
He was suspended for not going to the study hall, because the school couldn't leave him unsupervised. Isn't that what your link says?

Arrest all the teachers...Shut down the schools!...The new GOP mantra

Moot · Mar 16, 2018

Sounds like the principal wanted the students that didn't want to join the protest to go to the commons area so they could lock up the building and this one student was preventing that.

Unless it was fake, his suspension letter reads that it was for one day and he had to be supervised while on school property.

Looks like we have a new crisis actor trying to get his five minutes of fame.

ecofarm · Mar 16, 2018

vesper said:
A kid who was faced with two choices and couldn't justify either because he seen both as being political. And for that he gets suspended?

Every choice is political. Even his choice to disobey and require disciplinary action. Guess it's about time he learned this.

Hatuey · Mar 16, 2018

Moot said:
Sounds like the principal wanted the students that didn't want to join the protest to go to the commons area so they could lock up the building and this one student was preventing that.

Unless it was fake, his suspension letter reads that it was for one day and he had to be supervised while on school property.

Looks like we have a new crisis actor trying to get his five minutes of fame.

You can't be apolitical in a study hall!!!! It must be done in the classroom!!! Benghaaaziiiii, Clinton, the Elitist ageeendaaaa.!!!111!!! eleventy one!!

Sent from a memo written by Nunes and edited by Trump.

Moot · Mar 16, 2018

Saladin4 said:
Arrest all the teachers...Shut down the schools!...The new GOP mantra

Unfortunately, there might be some truth to that. An educated public is the biggest threat to the GOP because they tend not to vote republican.

ttwtt78640 · Mar 16, 2018

roughdraft274 said:
Many kids around the country were also suspended for joining in on the protest. He was offered a study hall area to sit at rather than an empty classroom. He declined. He got punished.

I'm not seeing a problem here.

You don't see a probelm with a student going to school and actually expecting to get classroom instruction?

Taylor · Mar 16, 2018

Hatuey said:
He said he wanted to remain apolitical

Where did he say we wanted to remain "apolitical?" It only says he wanted to be neutral with respect to the gun debate.

Ohio Student Suspended for Refusing to Leave Classroom During Gun Control Walkout

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