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Nunes Statemen on Release of HPSCI Memo

I know that....

A. the memo didn't support their false narrative of corrupt FBI officials acting to overthrow trump.
B. it present zero evidence that anything involving the FISA warrant was illegal or improper.
C. it reads like something from Breitbart
D. there is no rational reason, either based on this or anything else available, to doubt the everything the FBI did in terms of the surveillance in question was legitimate and legal.

You are implying the House Intelligence Committee, who investigated this, are all lying.
 
It appears that way.

It certainly appears that they did not have adequate proven information necessary for a FISA warrant.

The FISA warrant got renewed a few times by the judge, the judge wouldn't do that if there wasn't new evidence and compelling information.
 
The FISA warrant got renewed a few times by the judge, the judge wouldn't do that if there wasn't new evidence and compelling information.

Apparently they did. Unless the House Intelligence Committee are all lying?
 
Except, of course, that there is no evidence that the FBI relied solely on Steele's information. There is only an unsupported claim that they did.


None whatsoever. Lost in this is this was a FISA RENEWAL. (I think it was like the 3rd or 4th renewal)

Carter Page had come under the eye of the FBI well before he joined the Trump campaign.

The Post first reported on the warrant (known as a FISA warrant, short for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) in April. That report included this bit of information:


Three years before Page became an adviser to the Trump campaign, he came to the attention of FBI counterintelligence agents, who learned that Russian spy suspects had sought to use Page as a source for information.


In that case, one of the Russian suspects, Victor Podobnyy — who was posing as a diplomat and was later charged by federal prosecutors with acting as an unregistered agent of a foreign government — was captured on tape in 2013 discussing an effort to get information and documents from Page. … In one secretly recorded conversation, detailed in the complaint, Podobnyy said Page “wrote that he is sorry, he went to Moscow and forgot to check his inbox, but he wants to meet when he gets back. I think he is an idiot and forgot who I am. Plus he writes to me in Russian [to] practice the language. He flies to Moscow more often than I do. He got hooked on Gazprom thinking that if they have a project, he could rise up. Maybe he can. I don’t know, but it’s obvious that he wants to earn lots of money.’’


The FBI interviewed Page in June 2013, and he admitted to providing documents to Podobnyy, though only “basic immaterial information and publicly available research documents.”
We know of other interactions between Page and Russian actors as well.x

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...now-about-the-warrant-to-surveil-carter-page/
 
The FISA warrant got renewed a few times by the judge, the judge wouldn't do that if there wasn't new evidence and compelling information.

All those neander****s who breathlessly claimed that this was worse than Watergate just watched this blow up in their faces and are too stupid to know they got played by a clown.
 
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None whatsoever. Lost in this is this was a FISA RENEWAL. (I think it was like the 3rd or 4th renewal)

Carter Page had come under the eye of the FBI well before he joined the Trump campaign.

The Post first reported on the warrant (known as a FISA warrant, short for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) in April. That report included this bit of information:


Three years before Page became an adviser to the Trump campaign, he came to the attention of FBI counterintelligence agents, who learned that Russian spy suspects had sought to use Page as a source for information.


In that case, one of the Russian suspects, Victor Podobnyy — who was posing as a diplomat and was later charged by federal prosecutors with acting as an unregistered agent of a foreign government — was captured on tape in 2013 discussing an effort to get information and documents from Page. … In one secretly recorded conversation, detailed in the complaint, Podobnyy said Page “wrote that he is sorry, he went to Moscow and forgot to check his inbox, but he wants to meet when he gets back. I think he is an idiot and forgot who I am. Plus he writes to me in Russian [to] practice the language. He flies to Moscow more often than I do. He got hooked on Gazprom thinking that if they have a project, he could rise up. Maybe he can. I don’t know, but it’s obvious that he wants to earn lots of money.’’


The FBI interviewed Page in June 2013, and he admitted to providing documents to Podobnyy, though only “basic immaterial information and publicly available research documents.”
We know of other interactions between Page and Russian actors as well.x

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...now-about-the-warrant-to-surveil-carter-page/

Some people simply cannot be reasoned with and are immune to rational analysis of facts, and that includes Trump Fellatio Technicians everywhere.
 
All those neander****s who breathlessly claimed that this was worse than Watergate just watch this blow up in their faces and are too stupid to know they got played by a clown.

Its a "Meh-mo":lamo
 
Here is the question that will stump the chumps on the left: If the memo only implicates the FBI and Steele, why did the Democrats fight so hard to stop it?
 
It appears that way.

It certainly appears that they did not have adequate proven information necessary for a FISA warrant.
And how would you know what? They have given a timeline of events that allude to probable cause being present -- warrants aren't just issued for the **** it. Not only that, FISA surveillance must produce useful intelligence, and the warrant on Page was renewed through several layers of government, several times.

In fact, Nunes is admitting that what triggered the investigation was Papo getting hammered in a bar, not the silly dossier, or anything along those lines.

So, the GOP memo alluding to probable cause, useful intelligence, and debunked what it was set out to do.:lamo
 
Here is the question that will stump the chumps on the left: If the memo only implicates the FBI and Steele, why did the Democrats fight so hard to stop it?

Why are the republcans fighting so hard to keep the democrat rebuttal memo released?
 
Why are the republcans fighting so hard to keep the democrat rebuttal memo released?

They aren't. Trump, Cruz, Rubio and Rand have all called for it to be released. The prevailing opinion is that the Democratic memo is going to make them look really bad. It might need some redacting first, but it will likely be released.
 
And? They did this on a strictly partisan basis, along party lines. Yes, they're all lying.

Happy now?

Yes, thank you.

what this memo doesn't do is refute or change any of the evidence they have against Trump & Co. So really, it doesn't end up mattering much, does it?
 
Here is the question that will stump the chumps on the left: If the memo only implicates the FBI and Steele, why did the Democrats fight so hard to stop it?

Because Nunes was directly implying and not denying that it contained sensitive classified materials about methods and materials that could be damaging to our intelligence and national security agencies and personnel.

Duh.
 
Why are the republcans fighting so hard to keep the democrat rebuttal memo released?

Who said they are? According to the transcript, they all voted to release it to the House, and using the same procedure on this memo.
 
Here is the question that will stump the chumps on the left: If the memo only implicates the FBI and Steele, why did the Democrats fight so hard to stop it?

Yeah, I don't get their doom and gloom about it. Especially the 'it will hurt national security!' Next time they claim that about something, they likely won't be believed.
 
Because Nunes was directly implying and not denying that it contained sensitive classified materials about methods and materials that could be damaging to our intelligence and national security agencies and personnel.

Duh.


But the Dems got to read it. They knew what was in it.
 
Remember...this is just the beginning. Not the end.

1. Don't believe for a moment that the House Intel committee investigation is over.

2. There are three more Congressional committee investigations going.

3. There is a DOJ OIG investigation in the process of being completed.

Just based on this summary, alone, I'd say that a number of current and former DOJ and FBI employees need to be charged with political corruption by use of the FISA Court system. I also suspect those other investigations are going to reveal corroborating evidence and evidence of other, related and unrelated, crimes.

Since you're all for revealing crimes both related and unrelated to the purpose of the investigation, we can conclude you'd be perfectly okay with mueller's probe recommending an indictment for unrelated financial crimes of Trump, correct?


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Here is the question that will stump the chumps on the left: If the memo only implicates the FBI and Steele, why did the Democrats fight so hard to stop it?

Because it's right wing propaganda intended to obstruct justice.


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And how would you know what? They have given a timeline of events that allude to probable cause being present -- warrants aren't just issued for the **** it. Not only that, FISA surveillance must produce useful intelligence, and the warrant on Page was renewed through several layers of government, several times.

In fact, Nunes is admitting that what triggered the investigation was Papo getting hammered in a bar, not the silly dossier, or anything along those lines.

So, the GOP memo alluding to probable cause, useful intelligence, and debunked what it was set out to do.:lamo

What you're not getting is what was LEFT OUT of the applications and renewals.
 
Since you're all for revealing crimes both related and unrelated to the purpose of the investigation, we can conclude you'd be perfectly okay with mueller's probe recommending an indictment for unrelated financial crimes of Trump, correct?


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I am. I've already said I think they can get him for money laundering, not collusion or obstruction.
 
Yes, thank you.

what this memo doesn't do is refute or change any of the evidence they have against Trump & Co. So really, it doesn't end up mattering much, does it?

The goal of the memo is to give Trump enough reason to fire Rosenstein and replace him with a Trump loyalist who will take Mueller's finished report and put it into the shredder.

Millions of tax payer dollars go poof.


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