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Second Trump-Russia dossier being assessed by FBI

Lutherf

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Lutherf said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/30/trump-russia-collusion-fbi-cody-shearer-memo

Maybe this one will put the final nail in Trump's coffin!

If one dossier produced by a bought and paid for biased source wasn't enough to get a FISA warrant then maybe TWO dossiers from bought and paid for biased sources were enough!



This memo, reportedly, corroborates the golden shower thing too so it's GOT to be true!
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We shall wait and see if as I think Mueller will issue more indictments this month.
On a side note- I will leave you with this picture in your head
Trump chasing Stormy Daniels in Tighty Whities.
 
JANFU said:
We shall wait and see if as I think Mueller will issue more indictments this month.
On a side note- I will leave you with this picture in your head
Trump chasing Stormy Daniels in Tighty Whities.
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Didn't she just deny the affair again yesterday or the day before?
 
Lutherf said:
Didn't she just deny the affair again yesterday or the day before?
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Sooo trump just gave her over 100 thousand dollars because he is such a theranspist, that he thought he should donate to the hot whore society...

K, got it....
 
GDViking said:
Sooo trump just gave her over 100 thousand dollars because he is such a theranspist, that he thought he should donate to the hot whore society...

K, got it....
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Well, the way it usually works is that your lawyer tells you it'll cost $150k to litigate the matter so if you're only paying $130k to settle and get the NDA then you're coming out $20k ahead without having to suffer the publicity.
 
Lutherf said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/30/trump-russia-collusion-fbi-cody-shearer-memo

Maybe this one will put the final nail in Trump's coffin!

If one dossier produced by a bought and paid for biased source wasn't enough to get a FISA warrant then maybe TWO dossiers from bought and paid for biased sources were enough!



This memo, reportedly, corroborates the golden shower thing too so it's GOT to be true!
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Actually, this was talked about here on DP a couple days ago...I think the thread died for lack of credibility and interest.
 
Lutherf said:
Well, the way it usually works is that your lawyer tells you it'll cost $150k to litigate the matter so if you're only paying $130k to settle and get the NDA then you're coming out $20k ahead without having to suffer the publicity.
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So obviously then, when she denies the affair, it should just be soooo credible, right? :lamo

But now Obama's Kenyan Birth certificate: now THERE's something to get all excited and outraged about, right?
 
ataraxia said:
So obviously then, when she denies the affair, it should just be soooo credible, right? :lamo

But now Obama's Kenyan Birth certificate: now THERE's something to get all excited and outraged about, right?
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Was there a Kenyan BC? I don't remember that but maybe there was. Anyway, that was a fun topic for a couple of days but after that it got stale.
 
Lutherf said:
Didn't she just deny the affair again yesterday or the day before?
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Trump has nearly 4000 lawsuits under his belt. A number of them have been defamation lawsuits he's filed just because someone claimed that he wasn't as wealthy as he claims. So if there "allegedly" is a nondisclosure that Stormy signed (plus any alleged money taken), Trump's legal team will be on her like white on rice if she outright admits to such a relationship. It's doubtful that she's financially able to take on Trump in a legal action. And especially if she signed a document. Something like that - wouldn't make it to a court hearing. It'd be settled quickly behind closed doors.

But like on the Kimmel interview, she's good at diversions, but she throws in subtle responses that leaves one to consider the possibility.

What truly amazes me is that Trump has decades of his business and personal life document and videoed. And as much information that exists, none of his supporters have researched or even care that he has such a dark background.

Trump's not a Bernie Madoff. But Trump has a dark business side to him. And obviously a pretty tumblesome personal life with all of his wives. And of course there are allegations of sexual misconduct that has popped up, but I'm guess that if any of the women who are making claims don't have the money to take on Trump in court, they'll just be force to remain low-keyed or drop out of the limelight completely.
 
Lutherf said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/30/trump-russia-collusion-fbi-cody-shearer-memo

Maybe this one will put the final nail in Trump's coffin!

If one dossier produced by a bought and paid for biased source wasn't enough to get a FISA warrant then maybe TWO dossiers from bought and paid for biased sources were enough!



This memo, reportedly, corroborates the golden shower thing too so it's GOT to be true!
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I am sure that things like this just open avenues of investigation, not as something that is taken verboten. As was pointed out in this article, Sheerer is an investigative reporter who is controversial. While some of the details independently make the same claims, his reputation , and his experience is not as robust, so at most , it might provide some leads for the FBI to investigate. It is unknown if the FBI is actually looking at that, and at best, that is speculative.

I would say , why yes, this memo exists, and yes, it makes some of the same claims as the steele notes, but anything else when it has to do with the FBI investigation is speculative and click bait.
 
RAMOSS said:
I am sure that things like this just open avenues of investigation, not as something that is taken verboten. As was pointed out in this article, Sheerer is an investigative reporter who is controversial. While some of the details independently make the same claims, his reputation , and his experience is not as robust, so at most , it might provide some leads for the FBI to investigate. It is unknown if the FBI is actually looking at that, and at best, that is speculative.

I would say , why yes, this memo exists, and yes, it makes some of the same claims as the steele notes, but anything else when it has to do with the FBI investigation is speculative and click bait.
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Look, if I were to walk into the FBI and say "I've got hearsay evidence that Ramoss is a Russian spy. Some guy in Russia told me about him paying hookers to pee on a bed in Moscow." and they investigated that would be a SERIOUS violation of the 4th Amendment. There would be NOTHING in my claim that made the accusation reasonable. Furthermore, if the FBI guy I told this story to happened to have corroboration for my story from a second, associated source it STILL would be a violation of the 4th Amendment because the claim STILL isn't reasonable. They need something solid before they can LAWFULLY start investigating.

What it's starting to look like is that this investigation was conducted for 99.9% political reasons. There were a whole passel of political big wigs that wanted this investigation to move forward and the FBI capitulated because if they didn't and then Hillary lost the election they'd be blamed for not protecting her. If they didn't investigate and she won they'd have been viewed as disloyal and would lose their jobs.
 
Lutherf said:
Look, if I were to walk into the FBI and say "I've got hearsay evidence that Ramoss is a Russian spy. Some guy in Russia told me about him paying hookers to pee on a bed in Moscow." and they investigated that would be a SERIOUS violation of the 4th Amendment. There would be NOTHING in my claim that made the accusation reasonable. Furthermore, if the FBI guy I told this story to happened to have corroboration for my story from a second, associated source it STILL would be a violation of the 4th Amendment because the claim STILL isn't reasonable. They need something solid before they can LAWFULLY start investigating.

What it's starting to look like is that this investigation was conducted for 99.9% political reasons. There were a whole passel of political big wigs that wanted this investigation to move forward and the FBI capitulated because if they didn't and then Hillary lost the election they'd be blamed for not protecting her. If they didn't investigate and she won they'd have been viewed as disloyal and would lose their jobs.
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And, you have no idea what the FBI is actually doing with that alleged dossier.. and frnakly, an investigative reporter would have more credibility than you.. particularly if he gave that evidence, and it confirms what you got from another, independent source. It doesn't mean that they would take it at face value without investigation.., and they might be doing anything with this supposed memo what so ever. THat is speculative, and you don't know.. and neither does the Guardian
 
Lutherf said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/30/trump-russia-collusion-fbi-cody-shearer-memo

Maybe this one will put the final nail in Trump's coffin!

If one dossier produced by a bought and paid for biased source wasn't enough to get a FISA warrant then maybe TWO dossiers from bought and paid for biased sources were enough!



This memo, reportedly, corroborates the golden shower thing too so it's GOT to be true!
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Is this the weasel who has Clinton connections? If so, this twit has no credibility.
 
Lutherf said:
Was there a Kenyan BC? I don't remember that but maybe there was. Anyway, that was a fun topic for a couple of days but after that it got stale.
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Huh? Trump was able to ride that horse for 6 years straight all the way to the presidency!
 
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Lutherf said:
Didn't she just deny the affair again yesterday or the day before?
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She did not deny, but she would not confirm either, Trump has her on a non disclosure agreement. I believe its standard practice with his call girls, and ex wives.
 
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Lutherf said:
Did she just deny the affair again yesterday or the day before?
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Not really. She is playing word games with her settlement non-disclosure statement, so far she is coming out ahead, no pun intended.
 
Lutherf said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/30/trump-russia-collusion-fbi-cody-shearer-memo

Maybe this one will put the final nail in Trump's coffin!

If one dossier produced by a bought and paid for biased source wasn't enough to get a FISA warrant then maybe TWO dossiers from bought and paid for biased sources were enough!



This memo, reportedly, corroborates the golden shower thing too so it's GOT to be true!
Click to expand...



The second memo was written by Cody Shearer, a controversial political activist and former journalist who was close to the Clinton White House in the 1990s.
Unlike Steele, Shearer does not have a background in espionage, and his memo was initially viewed with scepticism, not least because he had shared it with select media organisations before the election.
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And the FBI seriously thought this was a truthful memo? And sat on is since June 2016?

This ****s coming out fast and furious on both sides, just because of the Nunes memo. What the hell are they so afraid of??
 
JANFU said:
We shall wait and see if as I think Mueller will issue more indictments this month.
On a side note- I will leave you with this picture in your head
Trump chasing Stormy Daniels in Tighty Whities.
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Arggggghhhh! Did you have to! :eek::2sick1:
 
Casper said:
Not really. She is playing word games with her settlement non-disclosure statement, so far she is coming out ahead, no pun intended.
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And we thought Bill had lowered the bar in the WH. After Trumps escapades, I should think we will hear very little from the Right on how immoral Bill was from here on in. If you lie with dogs, you get fleas, or in Trumps case probably an STD.
 
Lutherf said:
Look, if I were to walk into the FBI and say "I've got hearsay evidence that Ramoss is a Russian spy. Some guy in Russia told me about him paying hookers to pee on a bed in Moscow." and they investigated that would be a SERIOUS violation of the 4th Amendment. There would be NOTHING in my claim that made the accusation reasonable. Furthermore, if the FBI guy I told this story to happened to have corroboration for my story from a second, associated source it STILL would be a violation of the 4th Amendment because the claim STILL isn't reasonable. They need something solid before they can LAWFULLY start investigating.

What it's starting to look like is that this investigation was conducted for 99.9% political reasons. There were a whole passel of political big wigs that wanted this investigation to move forward and the FBI capitulated because if they didn't and then Hillary lost the election they'd be blamed for not protecting her. If they didn't investigate and she won they'd have been viewed as disloyal and would lose their jobs.
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Its starting to look that way because Fox News and Trumps twitter feed could be your news sources. Do I believe Trump sold us out to the Russkies for the win, IDK. If its not true, then Trump has committed serious breaches of Obstruction of Justice for a nothing burger. Not the most politically savvy guy is he? If he is innocent, then he should stop acting guilty with a coverup. Kinda of a no brainer but look who we are dealing with.
 
Roadvirus said:
Is this the weasel who has Clinton connections? If so, this twit has no credibility.
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Since when do Republicans give a hoot about integrity. Trump cant go 10 minutes without lying in one form or another and gets a pass from the entire GOP establishment. Save us the hypocrisy.
 
I keep hearing "obstruction of justice" and I'm curious, if the investigation turns out to be manufactured for purely political reasons and based on totally contrived accusations then is it still obstruction? I mean, if the FBI comes to you and says "we have reason to believe that you're a Russian agent because the Democrats say so and we need to go into all your records to find evidence of the claim" don't you have an OBLIGATION to tell them to **** off? Generally speaking an investigation needs to have evidence of wrongdoing BEFORE the investigation. Heck, let's say that you actually did hire hookers to piss on some bed Obama slept in. That might be a crime in Moscow but it wouldn't be one here.
 
Lutherf said:
I keep hearing "obstruction of justice" and I'm curious, if the investigation turns out to be manufactured for purely political reasons and based on totally contrived accusations then is it still obstruction? I mean, if the FBI comes to you and says "we have reason to believe that you're a Russian agent because the Democrats say so and we need to go into all your records to find evidence of the claim" don't you have an OBLIGATION to tell them to **** off? Generally speaking an investigation needs to have evidence of wrongdoing BEFORE the investigation. Heck, let's say that you actually did hire hookers to piss on some bed Obama slept in. That might be a crime in Moscow but it wouldn't be one here.
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Let us know when someone can prove that the entire investigation was manufactured and we can discuss it, until then the wheels of justice will continue to move forward. Why anyone that cares about the Republic would be against that is beyond me.
 
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