John F. Kerry running in 2020?

vesper said:

My point is it is unconscionable for a former Sec State to be engaged in such things. If true he is undermining a sitting president that the people elected. That is just unacceptable behavior. If there was a report of a Sec State under Bush went and undermined the Obama administration it would be just as unacceptable.

There are consequences for elections and evidently according to this report, a member of the Obama administration hasn't accepted it.

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Oh Jesus F'ing Christ quit your whining. Trump does enough damage to foreign affairs everytime he opens his mouth or gets on Twitter. He does far more damage than Kerry ever could and no one over there respects Trump anyway. Even Netanyahu is just playing him along. I wonder what a guy with a 160 I.Q. thinks of Trump? I'll bet he laughs his butt off behind his back.

I find it amusing you don't seem to care that Trump's criminal gang was already undermining Obama's policy toward Russian intervention with our election before Trump was even in the Whitehouse.

EnigmaO01 said:

Oh Jesus F'ing Christ quit your whining. Trump does enough damage to foreign affairs everytime he opens his mouth or gets on Twitter. He does far more damage than Kerry ever could and no one over there respects Trump anyway. Even Netanyahu is just playing him along. I wonder what a guy with a 160 I.Q. thinks of Trump? I'll bet he laughs his butt off behind his back.

I find it amusing you don't seem to care that Trump's criminal gang was already undermining Obama's policy toward Russian intervention with our election before Trump was even in the Whitehouse.

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I had a father in law that had a favorite saying when people didn't have a clue but insisted they did, it went like this, "You talk like someone with a paper asshole". The first time I heard this WWII well decorated hero say this I didn't understand. Paper asshole? Well over the years I understand it perfectly.

vesper said:

I had a father in law that had a favorite saying when people didn't have a clue but insisted they did, it went like this, "You talk like someone with a paper asshole". The first time I heard this WWII well decorated hero say this I didn't understand. Paper asshole? Well over the years I understand it perfectly.

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And what relevance does it have? Are you talking about yourself? Because you sure aren't talking about me. I made salient points even if my approach was a little dramatic with a colorful expletive. Anyone with a brain knows Trump is his own worst enemy. He's about as diplomatic as an H Bomb and couldn't negotiate himself out of a wet paper bag. And add to that the man isn't especially bright, articulate, or educated on common knowledge.

EnigmaO01 said:

And what relevance does it have? Are you talking about yourself? Because you sure aren't talking about me. I made salient points even if my approach was a little dramatic with a colorful expletive. Anyone with a brain knows Trump is his own worst enemy. He's about as diplomatic as an H Bomb and couldn't negotiate himself out of a wet paper bag. And add to that the man isn't especially bright, articulate, or educated on common knowledge.

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Wow I hope they come up with a cure, a pill for what ails you soon. It must hurt terribly to be you.

EnigmaO01 said:

Oh Jesus F'ing Christ quit your whining. Trump does enough damage to foreign affairs everytime he opens his mouth or gets on Twitter. He does far more damage than Kerry ever could and no one over there respects Trump anyway. Even Netanyahu is just playing him along. I wonder what a guy with a 160 I.Q. thinks of Trump? I'll bet he laughs his butt off behind his back.

I find it amusing you don't seem to care that Trump's criminal gang was already undermining Obama's policy toward Russian intervention with our election before Trump was even in the Whitehouse.

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You are talking baloney motivated by your hatred of Trump. If Kerry is truly discussing foreign policy with the Palistinean leadership and working against the Trump administration, he is in fact in violation of the Logan Act and is guilty of a criminal act.

shrubnose said:

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He's not my hero,but he's not a war criminal,he just did his job in Vietnam like I and thousands of others did.

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Under the Geneva conventions he admitted to war crimes. I know most all the Vietnam vets I know did not commit said atrocities. SO either he's a liar, or a war criminal who threw some one medals over a fence. **** that guy, he's a traitor.

vesper said:

According to the Jerusalem Post, Kerry is considering a run in 2020.

In the article it states that the previous Sec. of State, John Kerry has been keeping in contact with the Palestinian leadership giving advice to not give into Trump's demands. That Trump is not going to be in office long. How would John Kerry know that? But anyway the article claims that Kerry is considering a run. That he is not too old.



But it gets even more interesting as Kerry is reported to have absolutely trashed Trump, gave advice on coming up with a Palestinian peace plan, offering to help garner international support for it. He told Agha to ask Abbas not to speak badly of the Trump administration but make his derogatory remarks solely toward Trump.

If this report is true, these actions of a former Sec. of State are unconscionable.

Kerry to Abbas confidante: 'Stay strong and do not give in to Trump' - Arab-Israeli Conflict - Jerusalem Post

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The Democrats could run a canned ham in 2020 and beat Trump, but Trump will win if they run another flawed candidate.

ReverendHellh0und said:

Under the Geneva conventions he admitted to war crimes. I know most all the Vietnam vets I know did not commit said atrocities. SO either he's a liar, or a war criminal who threw some one medals over a fence. **** that guy, he's a traitor.

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If Kerry admitted to the things he said he done, then he should have been tried for them. I was a platoon sergeant in Vietnam, I spent 18 months with the 2/47th infantry in the delta area, I can tell you this, if any of the personal in my platoon did half the stuff Kerry said we did, we would be in a federal prison. Civilians were strictly off limits and if you violated that you had better have had a very good excuse because it was a court martial offence period.

danarhea said:

The Democrats could run a canned ham in 2020 and beat Trump, but Trump will win if they run another flawed candidate.

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Hillary, the smartest criminal in the world wasn’t flawed to Democrats... until she lost.

Democrats need a message, and Interventionist Socialism and putting illegals first, isn’t going to cut it. But it’s all Democrats have.

danarhea said:

The Democrats could run a canned ham in 2020 and beat Trump, but Trump will win if they run another flawed candidate.

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Well if they can't get Hillary to go away quietly then the Democratic party may never get over their flawed candidate.

So if it becomes Trump vs Kerry we will have two men in their mid- 70's running.

Once again, how in the hell do we find ourselves in this mess.

vesper said:

According to the Jerusalem Post, Kerry is considering a run in 2020.

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Virtually every eligible candidate in the country is considering running for president in 2020. We have quite possibly the single worst president in all of American history right now, and almost anybody that runs against him is going to be a prohibitive favorite to win in a landslide.

vesper said:

According to the Jerusalem Post, Kerry is considering a run in 2020.

In the article it states that the previous Sec. of State, John Kerry has been keeping in contact with the Palestinian leadership giving advice to not give into Trump's demands. That Trump is not going to be in office long. How would John Kerry know that? But anyway the article claims that Kerry is considering a run. That he is not too old.

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No, no, no.

- Hillary Clinton's existence gave Trump the Presidency.

- John Kerry's existence would hand it to Trump again.


Besides that, this would be treason. If this were true, then Kerry would be actively working against America's interests. It is exactly what Nixon did in 1968 with Vietnam. This is historical fact...

- Peace talks between the North and the South were going smoothly and it appeared as if Lyndon Johnson was finally going to establish an end to the Vietnam War. Nixon, who was competing with Humphrey for the presidency, approved of contact with the South to encourage them to scuttle the talks until after he was elected. If the peace talks fell apart, then it would be a PR issue for the Democrats. Nixon promised the South a more favorable deal if elected. In 2013, declassified tapes confirmed what was already generally understood by historians since at least 2007. The FBI had intercepted telephone conversations with the South Vietnamese Ambassador in 1968. The NSA was also monitoring. Johnson was aware of Nixon's activity and got a message to Nixon, via Senator Everett Dirksen, that he was dealing with treason and that he needed to stop. However, Johnson's administration decided that they could not go public with this. Not only did they believe that they needed "absolute" proof of Nixon's intent, but they would have to compromise a working Intel/spy network. Whether or not it mattered to Nixon's election, is more speculation, but the South Vietnamese did pull out of the talks prior to the American Presidential election. What is a fact is that the Vietnam War went on for five more years and far more people (Americans and Vietnamese) died than had to had the peace talks been successful.

Treason. John Kerry has no business telling Palestinians to make matters harder for a later personal political victory in America.

Crosscheck said:

So if it becomes Trump vs Kerry we will have two men in their mid- 70's running.

Once again, how in the hell do we find ourselves in this mess.

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At this point America just digging itself a deeper hole everyday.

Soopairik said:

At this point America just digging itself a deeper hole everyday.

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Sadly, True.....

Puigb said:

Kerry won't be the nominee, but considering your ilk voted for some 70 year old fat Reality T.V. Star to be your parties nominee, and now president, I find it hilarious how you think "age" has anything to do with winning.

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Kerry looked 80 when he was 40.

Crosscheck said:

Once again, how in the hell do we find ourselves in this mess.

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Good question.

We are stuck with the lesser of 2 whatevers every 4 years because no sane person with genuine, rock-solid integrity would voluntarily expose him/herself to the 24/7 media hellhounds and their microscope from Hell for the job of POTUS.