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Someone Has Already Been Killed Because of Trump Dossier, Fusion GPS Revealed

They can't accept that the corruption in this thing goes as far as it does.

Yeah, I find it pretty funny discussing these developments with others in my real life who immediately write it off as too crazy to be true while accepting without question that a presidential candidate conspired with the Russians to hack the US elections... :roll: :lamo
 
Yeah, I find it pretty funny discussing these developments with others in my real life who immediately write it off as too crazy to be true while accepting without question that a presidential candidate conspired with the Russians to hack the US elections... :roll: :lamo

wizards first rule my friend wizards first rule.
 
Lol ! Irony

Youv'e spent better part of this thread defending lies and propaganda.
What a ****ing hypocrite
"I know you are but what am I?!"

And yet, that was probably the best post you've had in this thread. I strongly advise you try your propaganda in other threads, because it's been pretty clear your propaganda has been no match for someone with my knowledge of the situation.
 
"I know you are but what am I?!"

And yet, that was probably the best post you've had in this thread. I strongly advise you try your propaganda in other threads, because it's been pretty clear your propaganda has been no match for someone with my knowledge of the situation.

Your knowledge starts and stops at Simpsons testimony, which according to you trumps all prior information solely by virute of its timing, and that limits your " knowledge of the situation ".
When more information is released, like the IG's report to Congress, you can always thumb through the testimony of Glenn Simpsons as consolation, and pretend your'e an expert on this growing scandal
 
Glenn Simpsons testimony is " true " ? What gives you that impression ?

Fusion GPS hired Nellie Ohr, who was a expert on Russian affairs, and she spoke Russian.
When asked if they had anyone on their staff that spoke Russian, he said no.

I don't recall that in the transcript. He admitted to hiring a bunch of subcontractors, which I presume fits Nellie Our, for all kinds of jobs.
 
I don't recall that in the transcript. He admitted to hiring a bunch of subcontractors, which I presume fits Nellie Our, for all kinds of jobs.

One of the Commitee members asked Simpson if any Fusion employees or associates spoke Russian

Simspons replied " No ".

Clearly the commitee member knew about Simspson contact with both Nellie Ohr and Bruce Ohr

Simspson was also asked if he had any contact with the FBI during the time he conducted this anti-Trump opposition research.

He said he didnt, but Bruce Ohr was deputy assistant AG. Tecnically not the FBI but still a senior Obama DOJ official
 
One of the Commitee members asked Simpson if any Fusion employees or associates spoke Russian

Simspons replied " No ".

If you want to reference the page in the transcript, that would be nice, but at various places he says he hired all kinds of subcontractors to do various jobs. If she wasn't a sub, then make that case, but if she was a sub, then he answered the question several times, accurately as far as I can tell.

Clearly the commitee member knew about Simspson contact with both Nellie Ohr and Bruce Ohr

Simspson was also asked if he had any contact with the FBI during the time he conducted this anti-Trump opposition research.

He said he didnt, but Bruce Ohr was deputy assistant AG. Tecnically not the FBI but still a senior Obama DOJ official

So he was asked about FBI contacts, and responded truthfully. What's the problem? I've been involved in quite a few depositions, and there is no obligation to answer questions not asked, legal or ethical.
 
If you want to reference the page in the transcript, that would be nice, but at various places he says he hired all kinds of subcontractors to do various jobs. If she wasn't a sub, then make that case, but if she was a sub, then he answered the question several times, accurately as far as I can tell.



So he was asked about FBI contacts, and responded truthfully. What's the problem? I've been involved in quite a few depositions, and there is no obligation to answer questions not asked, legal or ethical.

The allegation is the Obama administration colluded with the Hillary campaign and Fusion GPS to fund and produce anti-Trump oppo-research, which was then used as the basis for a counter intelligence investigation that led to the illegal survillance and unmasking of the political opposition during a election year

That same oppo-research was distributed / leaked to media outlets as part of a coordinated effort to to undermine Trumps candidacy and if he won, his Presidency.

Simpsons meetings with the DOJ or FBI is troubling because it directly ties Fusion GPS to the senior officials in the Obama administration

Ohr's been removed from two senior positions at the DOJ since his meetings with Simpson and Steele were made public.
The second demotion came after Devin Nunez recieved all FBI and DOJ documents related to the FBIs use of the dossier
 
The allegation is the Obama administration colluded with the Hillary campaign and Fusion GPS to fund and produce anti-Trump oppo-research, which was then used as the basis for a counter intelligence investigation that led to the illegal survillance and unmasking of the political opposition during a election year

That same oppo-research was distributed / leaked to media outlets as part of a coordinated effort to to undermine Trumps candidacy and if he won, his Presidency.

Simpsons meetings with the DOJ or FBI is troubling because it directly ties Fusion GPS to the senior officials in the Obama administration

Ohr's been removed from two senior positions at the DOJ since his meetings with Simpson and Steele were made public.
The second demotion came after Devin Nunez recieved all FBI and DOJ documents related to the FBIs use of the dossier

It's only troubling if the content of the "dossier" and the information Fusion GPS uncovered and shared with DoJ or FBI was fabricated and false. And we don't know that, at least not yet.

My attitude at this point is wait and see. The reason I don't believe there's nothing there is I don't actually believe the FBI under Comey was running a hatchet job on Trump, in 2016 or after Trump took ever in 2017, and yet long time career people took SOME allegations seriously enough to engage in a long investigation. Mueller is also not known as a hatchet man for any cause much less for Democrats (as he's a Republican), nor is Rosenstein. And Mueller has gotten a bunch of people on his team with long-established reputations with better things to do than run a BS hatchet job on Trump. So I don't know what they'll find, but when lots of serious people expend great effort on this investigation, it just seems unlikely it's over nothing.
 
It's only troubling if the content of the "dossier" and the information Fusion GPS uncovered and shared with DoJ or FBI was fabricated and false. And we don't know that, at least not yet.

My attitude at this point is wait and see. The reason I don't believe there's nothing there is I don't actually believe the FBI under Comey was running a hatchet job on Trump, in 2016 or after Trump took ever in 2017, and yet long time career people took SOME allegations seriously enough to engage in a long investigation. Mueller is also not known as a hatchet man for any cause much less for Democrats (as he's a Republican), nor is Rosenstein. And Mueller has gotten a bunch of people on his team with long-established reputations with better things to do than run a BS hatchet job on Trump. So I don't know what they'll find, but when lots of serious people expend great effort on this investigation, it just seems unlikely it's over nothing.

Well, I applaud your open mindedness and objectivity.
Your'e not dismissing it out of hand, which is odd bcause most people here who are far Left or even center-Left are

Im not totally convinced, but given the information thats already been released, and the fact that two senior Federal offficials who had direct contact with Steele and Fusion GPS have been removed from their positions, it wouldnt take much to make me a total believer.

Peter Sztroks text to Lisa Page were also especially damning

The House Intel commitee has seen subpoened DOJ and FBI documents that Im sure answer a lot of questions.
The fact that nothings been leaked is odd.
Does that support the allegations that there was a coordinated domestic political operation to undermine the election, or does it mean there's nothing there ? I cant decide.
 
Your knowledge starts and stops at Simpsons testimony
Another lie you've posted. Stop posting lies.

which according to you trumps all prior information solely by virute of its timing
Another lie you've posted. Stop posting lies.
and that limits your " knowledge of the situation ".
Another lie you've posted. Stop posting lies.

It's all you posted in this post, nothing but lies, lies which are easily proven lies just by reading my posts in this thread. I understand you have a job to do, but at least try not to be so obvious about it.
 
Another lie you've posted. Stop posting lies.

Another lie you've posted. Stop posting lies.
Another lie you've posted. Stop posting lies.

It's all you posted in this post, nothing but lies, lies which are easily proven lies just by reading my posts in this thread. I understand you have a job to do, but at least try not to be so obvious about it.

Breaking news !

Nunez charges abuse of Govt surveillance by FBI and DOJ..

Nunes charges 'abuse' of government surveillance by FBI and Justice officials | Fox News

Devin Nunez tells Republican lawmakers in 2 seperate close door sessions this week that he has seen evidence that shows clear abuse of surveillance by Obama's FBI and DOJ.

Lol....I bet he has. He has access to the subpoenaed DOJ and FBI documents that relate to the dossier in obtaining FISA warrants
 
Breaking news !

Nunez charges abuse of Govt surveillance by FBI and DOJ..

Nunes charges 'abuse' of government surveillance by FBI and Justice officials | Fox News

Devin Nunez tells Republican lawmakers in 2 seperate close door sessions this week that he has seen evidence that shows clear abuse of surveillance by Obama's FBI and DOJ.

Lol....I bet he has. He has access to the subpoenaed DOJ and FBI documents that relate to the dossier in obtaining FISA warrants

"... Nunes privately told GOP lawmakers that he will be pushing as early next week to secure access for all 435 members of Congress to see the same documents to decide for themselves what happened, as some of his Republican colleagues have already said they believe the dossier was a significant factor in surveillance of Trump officials. ..."

With 435 guys getting access to the same documents, we are bound to get more info in the coming days ... what with leaking being a side profession of our politicians.

Looking forward to the corrupt Obama FBI/DOJ exposure ... :)
 
Breaking news !

Nunez charges abuse of Govt surveillance by FBI and DOJ..

Nunes charges 'abuse' of government surveillance by FBI and Justice officials | Fox News

Devin Nunez tells Republican lawmakers in 2 seperate close door sessions this week that he has seen evidence that shows clear abuse of surveillance by Obama's FBI and DOJ.

Lol....I bet he has. He has access to the subpoenaed DOJ and FBI documents that relate to the dossier in obtaining FISA warrants

I don't blame you for wanting to change the subject from all the lies you posted. It's exactly what I'd expect from a propagandist.
 
I don't blame you for wanting to change the subject from all the lies you posted. It's exactly what I'd expect from a propagandist.

And I dont blame you for wanting to exist in your own partisan fueled delusions

If I was a hack, I would probably ignore this growing scandal too
 
If Nunes plans to read in all 435 members of Congress, there must be a "there" there.
 
Given Nunes' history as a bumbling stooge for Trump, that seems most highly unlikely.

The Democrats have a history of lying to cover up their miscarriage of justice to. Law breakers, and rule breakers should never be trusted.

Nor should you.. :2wave:
 
growing scandal
Clearly one of the phrases you're required to recite, given how often you do it in various threads.

If you're going to spew propaganda, you shouldn't be so obvious about it.
 
Please try posting something, anything, for that matter, which is relevant.

The post I pointed out of yours was the original relevance lacking issue here. Please inform yourself and keep up. This is getting pathetic on your part.
 
The post I pointed out of yours was the original relevance lacking issue here. Please inform yourself and keep up. This is getting pathetic on your part.

Please try posting something, anything, for that matter, which is relevant. Some day. Maybe.
 
Please try posting something, anything, for that matter, which is relevant. Some day. Maybe.

My you are a little baby, and have to have the last word. :2wave: And pathetic to boot.

Go ahead and post away....
 
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