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    Re: Someone Has Already Been Killed Because of Trump Dossier, Fusion GPS Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I don't recall that in the transcript. He admitted to hiring a bunch of subcontractors, which I presume fits Nellie Our, for all kinds of jobs.
    One of the Commitee members asked Simpson if any Fusion employees or associates spoke Russian

    Simspons replied " No ".

    Clearly the commitee member knew about Simspson contact with both Nellie Ohr and Bruce Ohr

    Simspson was also asked if he had any contact with the FBI during the time he conducted this anti-Trump opposition research.

    He said he didnt, but Bruce Ohr was deputy assistant AG. Tecnically not the FBI but still a senior Obama DOJ official
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    Re: Someone Has Already Been Killed Because of Trump Dossier, Fusion GPS Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    One of the Commitee members asked Simpson if any Fusion employees or associates spoke Russian

    Simspons replied " No ".
    If you want to reference the page in the transcript, that would be nice, but at various places he says he hired all kinds of subcontractors to do various jobs. If she wasn't a sub, then make that case, but if she was a sub, then he answered the question several times, accurately as far as I can tell.

    Clearly the commitee member knew about Simspson contact with both Nellie Ohr and Bruce Ohr

    Simspson was also asked if he had any contact with the FBI during the time he conducted this anti-Trump opposition research.

    He said he didnt, but Bruce Ohr was deputy assistant AG. Tecnically not the FBI but still a senior Obama DOJ official
    So he was asked about FBI contacts, and responded truthfully. What's the problem? I've been involved in quite a few depositions, and there is no obligation to answer questions not asked, legal or ethical.

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    Re: Someone Has Already Been Killed Because of Trump Dossier, Fusion GPS Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    If you want to reference the page in the transcript, that would be nice, but at various places he says he hired all kinds of subcontractors to do various jobs. If she wasn't a sub, then make that case, but if she was a sub, then he answered the question several times, accurately as far as I can tell.



    So he was asked about FBI contacts, and responded truthfully. What's the problem? I've been involved in quite a few depositions, and there is no obligation to answer questions not asked, legal or ethical.
    The allegation is the Obama administration colluded with the Hillary campaign and Fusion GPS to fund and produce anti-Trump oppo-research, which was then used as the basis for a counter intelligence investigation that led to the illegal survillance and unmasking of the political opposition during a election year

    That same oppo-research was distributed / leaked to media outlets as part of a coordinated effort to to undermine Trumps candidacy and if he won, his Presidency.

    Simpsons meetings with the DOJ or FBI is troubling because it directly ties Fusion GPS to the senior officials in the Obama administration

    Ohr's been removed from two senior positions at the DOJ since his meetings with Simpson and Steele were made public.
    The second demotion came after Devin Nunez recieved all FBI and DOJ documents related to the FBIs use of the dossier
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    Re: Someone Has Already Been Killed Because of Trump Dossier, Fusion GPS Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The allegation is the Obama administration colluded with the Hillary campaign and Fusion GPS to fund and produce anti-Trump oppo-research, which was then used as the basis for a counter intelligence investigation that led to the illegal survillance and unmasking of the political opposition during a election year

    That same oppo-research was distributed / leaked to media outlets as part of a coordinated effort to to undermine Trumps candidacy and if he won, his Presidency.

    Simpsons meetings with the DOJ or FBI is troubling because it directly ties Fusion GPS to the senior officials in the Obama administration

    Ohr's been removed from two senior positions at the DOJ since his meetings with Simpson and Steele were made public.
    The second demotion came after Devin Nunez recieved all FBI and DOJ documents related to the FBIs use of the dossier
    It's only troubling if the content of the "dossier" and the information Fusion GPS uncovered and shared with DoJ or FBI was fabricated and false. And we don't know that, at least not yet.

    My attitude at this point is wait and see. The reason I don't believe there's nothing there is I don't actually believe the FBI under Comey was running a hatchet job on Trump, in 2016 or after Trump took ever in 2017, and yet long time career people took SOME allegations seriously enough to engage in a long investigation. Mueller is also not known as a hatchet man for any cause much less for Democrats (as he's a Republican), nor is Rosenstein. And Mueller has gotten a bunch of people on his team with long-established reputations with better things to do than run a BS hatchet job on Trump. So I don't know what they'll find, but when lots of serious people expend great effort on this investigation, it just seems unlikely it's over nothing.

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    Re: Someone Has Already Been Killed Because of Trump Dossier, Fusion GPS Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    It's only troubling if the content of the "dossier" and the information Fusion GPS uncovered and shared with DoJ or FBI was fabricated and false. And we don't know that, at least not yet.

    My attitude at this point is wait and see. The reason I don't believe there's nothing there is I don't actually believe the FBI under Comey was running a hatchet job on Trump, in 2016 or after Trump took ever in 2017, and yet long time career people took SOME allegations seriously enough to engage in a long investigation. Mueller is also not known as a hatchet man for any cause much less for Democrats (as he's a Republican), nor is Rosenstein. And Mueller has gotten a bunch of people on his team with long-established reputations with better things to do than run a BS hatchet job on Trump. So I don't know what they'll find, but when lots of serious people expend great effort on this investigation, it just seems unlikely it's over nothing.
    Well, I applaud your open mindedness and objectivity.
    Your'e not dismissing it out of hand, which is odd bcause most people here who are far Left or even center-Left are

    Im not totally convinced, but given the information thats already been released, and the fact that two senior Federal offficials who had direct contact with Steele and Fusion GPS have been removed from their positions, it wouldnt take much to make me a total believer.

    Peter Sztroks text to Lisa Page were also especially damning

    The House Intel commitee has seen subpoened DOJ and FBI documents that Im sure answer a lot of questions.
    The fact that nothings been leaked is odd.
    Does that support the allegations that there was a coordinated domestic political operation to undermine the election, or does it mean there's nothing there ? I cant decide.
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    Re: Someone Has Already Been Killed Because of Trump Dossier, Fusion GPS Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Your knowledge starts and stops at Simpsons testimony
    Another lie you've posted. Stop posting lies.

    which according to you trumps all prior information solely by virute of its timing
    Another lie you've posted. Stop posting lies.
    and that limits your " knowledge of the situation ".
    Another lie you've posted. Stop posting lies.

    It's all you posted in this post, nothing but lies, lies which are easily proven lies just by reading my posts in this thread. I understand you have a job to do, but at least try not to be so obvious about it.

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    Re: Someone Has Already Been Killed Because of Trump Dossier, Fusion GPS Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Another lie you've posted. Stop posting lies.

    Another lie you've posted. Stop posting lies.
    Another lie you've posted. Stop posting lies.

    It's all you posted in this post, nothing but lies, lies which are easily proven lies just by reading my posts in this thread. I understand you have a job to do, but at least try not to be so obvious about it.
    Breaking news !

    Nunez charges abuse of Govt surveillance by FBI and DOJ..

    Nunes charges 'abuse' of government surveillance by FBI and Justice officials | Fox News

    Devin Nunez tells Republican lawmakers in 2 seperate close door sessions this week that he has seen evidence that shows clear abuse of surveillance by Obama's FBI and DOJ.

    Lol....I bet he has. He has access to the subpoenaed DOJ and FBI documents that relate to the dossier in obtaining FISA warrants
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    Re: Someone Has Already Been Killed Because of Trump Dossier, Fusion GPS Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Breaking news !

    Nunez charges abuse of Govt surveillance by FBI and DOJ..

    Nunes charges 'abuse' of government surveillance by FBI and Justice officials | Fox News

    Devin Nunez tells Republican lawmakers in 2 seperate close door sessions this week that he has seen evidence that shows clear abuse of surveillance by Obama's FBI and DOJ.

    Lol....I bet he has. He has access to the subpoenaed DOJ and FBI documents that relate to the dossier in obtaining FISA warrants
    "... Nunes privately told GOP lawmakers that he will be pushing as early next week to secure access for all 435 members of Congress to see the same documents to decide for themselves what happened, as some of his Republican colleagues have already said they believe the dossier was a significant factor in surveillance of Trump officials. ..."

    With 435 guys getting access to the same documents, we are bound to get more info in the coming days ... what with leaking being a side profession of our politicians.

    Looking forward to the corrupt Obama FBI/DOJ exposure ...

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    Re: Someone Has Already Been Killed Because of Trump Dossier, Fusion GPS Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Breaking news !

    Nunez charges abuse of Govt surveillance by FBI and DOJ..

    Nunes charges 'abuse' of government surveillance by FBI and Justice officials | Fox News

    Devin Nunez tells Republican lawmakers in 2 seperate close door sessions this week that he has seen evidence that shows clear abuse of surveillance by Obama's FBI and DOJ.

    Lol....I bet he has. He has access to the subpoenaed DOJ and FBI documents that relate to the dossier in obtaining FISA warrants
    I don't blame you for wanting to change the subject from all the lies you posted. It's exactly what I'd expect from a propagandist.

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    Re: Someone Has Already Been Killed Because of Trump Dossier, Fusion GPS Revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I don't blame you for wanting to change the subject from all the lies you posted. It's exactly what I'd expect from a propagandist.
    And I dont blame you for wanting to exist in your own partisan fueled delusions

    If I was a hack, I would probably ignore this growing scandal too
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