Teacher removed from school board meeting in handcuffs

[Helix]

You were blessed with good teachers. Parents. I can count the number of teachers I knew that were cool and its 9. The rest were pretty lame and absolutely hated their job.

just like any other profession, some were really good, some weren't my favorite, and many were decent. having two tutors at home helped me out a lot. i know that most kids don't have that advantage, and i'm grateful that i did.

 

[lefty louie]

It's criminal what some school boards do. A few years back our gov. Crispy Cream ordered all districts to cut spending. So what do they do, lay off teachers, let the contracts expire so they don't get any raise but all the while giving themselves a raise.

Don't get me wrong, if times are hard you need to make cut backs, but everyone should bear the hit, top to bottom.

 

[Deuce]

You were blessed with good teachers. Parents. I can count the number of teachers I knew that were cool and its 9. The rest were pretty lame and absolutely hated their job.

Maybe they hated their job because their school was full of people like you.

 

[American]

So where you home schooled?

Where you?

 

[dirtpoorchris]

Maybe they hated their job because their school was full of people like you.

Youre right. Most of the teachers saw my ****ty 5 pairs of clothes and greasy unwashed hair and just chose not to talk to me. But they also acted like a absolute fool to most of the class. Demanding respect at all times but never getting it. Then there was the cool ones that actually enjoyed the job, definitely the minority.

 

[jet57]

https://nypost.com/2018/01/09/teacher-removed-from-school-board-meeting-in-handcuffs/





Been saying this for a while, Schools ARE NOT healthy places. Most teachers ARE NOT good teachers, the good teachers were actually more rare than not. 90% of my teachers were lazy obese fat asses that just trickled paper, pre-planned lessons down to the kiddies then sat lethargically at their table. I was blessed with a good Principle but the one here at the local highschool in my town is an absolute douchebag, wanted to barf during graduation speech as he tried to take the spotlight.

Honestly I dont even see why a place like a school needs a "head honcho" who makes all this extra money if teachers bring him pleasing reports. Id argue that a high paid Principle and administrative staff at a school is actually unhealthy and takes directly from the students (and teachers).

You didn't graduate did you.

 

[Deuce]

Youre right. Most of the teachers saw my ****ty 5 pairs of clothes and greasy unwashed hair and just chose not to talk to me. But they also acted like a absolute fool to most of the class. Demanding respect at all times but never getting it. Then there was the cool ones that actually enjoyed the job, definitely the minority.

What if it was your attitude instead of your clothes?

If I were a teacher I wouldn't talk to my students other than in the role of a teacher. What the hell do I have to talk to a ten year old about? Sorry, I can't name more than like four pokemon.

 

[dirtpoorchris]

What if it was your attitude instead of your clothes?

If I were a teacher I wouldn't talk to my students other than in the role of a teacher. What the hell do I have to talk to a ten year old about? Sorry, I can't name more than like four pokemon.

No... Like literally... They just sat there reading a book and passed out preapproved papers. And yelled at kids. Thats it.

 

[Deuce]

No... Like literally... They just sat there reading a book and passed out preapproved papers. And yelled at kids. Thats it.

You went to a ****ty school and shouldn't assume your experience speaks to the whole of the system.

 

[Fishking]

Students are expected to know the difference between a principle and a principal, and a proper noun and a common noun, by the sixth grade, probably earlier. Were you so busy hating on your teachers that you did not learn these simple lessons?

To be fair, that backs up his point that most of his teachers sucked.

 

[Cephus]

What scores? Who does the scoring? What are the parameters? Who decides what "good" actually is?

I don't believe any of it. In America public schools SUCK and private schools turn out smart kids. That's the score I know.

That's because private schools can pick and choose who they admit and because they tend to be expensive, their parents who are footing the bill are much more likely to take an interest in their child's education. You're comparing apples and orangutans.

 

[Praxas]

Youre right. Most of the teachers saw my ****ty 5 pairs of clothes and greasy unwashed hair and just chose not to talk to me. But they also acted like a absolute fool to most of the class. Demanding respect at all times but never getting it. Then there was the cool ones that actually enjoyed the job, definitely the minority.

It's not the job of a teacher to be "cool", it is the job of a teacher to teach. Now maybe that didn't happen for you and maybe you had ****ty teachers, but you are basing your experiences and then broad brushing the majority of teachers over it.

and FYI, the teachers I had taught students regardless of what clothes they wore. It was the attitude that the teachers noticed. If the students had ****ty attitudes as you are demonstrating than yeah, they won't put forth the effort with you.

 

[Cephus]

Allow me to clarify for the slow and ignorant: THE POINT OF THE ARTICLE as it pertains to this thread is that public school are awash in money that they spend on all sorts of crap. So the teacher in the OP had a valid gripe regarding the pencil pushers getting raises but not the teachers.

Now do you understand? Would you like me to color a picture for you to go along with the explanation?

All the money in the world won't help if the students don't want to learn and the school is required by law to take all comers.

 

[Praxas]

No... Like literally... They just sat there reading a book and passed out preapproved papers. And yelled at kids. Thats it.

Then the admins at your school didn't do their jobs. At least 4 times a semester either the principal or vice principal would sit in on classes to see what the teachers were doing. It was unannounced (at least as far as I know) and the teachers I had didn't act any differently during that time than they normally did and they taught.

 

[dirtpoorchris]

All the money in the world won't help if the students don't want to learn and the school is required by law to take all comers.

This right here ^

The school is so addicted to leaching to each kid and sucking money out of the system. Most the foolish teachers sit there yelling at bad kids and clicking away on their computer playing solitaire. Kid gets kicked out of 5 classes and over half of them get F's and D's and they just keep the train going full speed. All aboard. None may leave. Choo-Choo.

Needs to be a way to incentivize actually getting the bad apples out of school instead of the disctrict using it as a cash farm thats not really doing anything exccept making sure kids sit and do nothing for 8 hours a day.

Heres a thought... instead of making the kids read 20 pages a day while u sit there jerkin off under the table get up and read the book for them and stop and give ur opinions here and there and turnt he classroom into a conversation.

 

[dirtpoorchris]

Then the admins at your school didn't do their jobs. At least 4 times a semester either the principal or vice principal would sit in on classes to see what the teachers were doing. It was unannounced (at least as far as I know) and the teachers I had didn't act any differently during that time than they normally did and they taught.

None of that ever happened at any of the schools I went to...

 

[Phys251]

To be fair, that backs up his point that most of his teachers sucked.

Nope. Could just have easily been his fault.

But we live in the day and age of snowflakery, thus it is never the student's fault. :roll:

 

[Praxas]

None of that ever happened at any of the schools I went to...

Than that is a failure at your school or possibly district. But how does your bad experience at your school justify broad brushing the entire school system around the country. If you can point to examples where the school or even the school district failed the students than I am right there with you but I don't think broad brushing all schools is the way to go.

 

[Praxas]

Nope. Could just have easily been his fault.

But we live in the day and age of snowflakery, thus it is never the student's fault. :roll:

This is where I disagree with no child left behind. Sometimes, the student needs to be left behind. The whole "you can bring a child to school but can't force him to think" sorta thing.

 

[trblmkr]

I graduated from high school in 1971. I went grade school in a tiny town on the outskirts of Phoenix AZ. I went to junior and high school in Sonoma County California. Two very different school systems. It was strange how the California system assumed I would be behind the curve and at first assigned me to "slower" classes. That didn't last long and I ended up skipping a grade. By the way. Being the youngest kid in your class has drawbacks.
But I do not remember any teacher standing out for being a complete waste of a teacher. Ever. I remember one who was less than optimal, but then he always had boogers hanging out of his nose, so?? I remember ones who were really good. Who, when I was having trouble when I met algebra, took time and got another student who was a math whiz to help me get it. (heavy math kept me from an engineering degree, although I now work in an engineering office checking the work of mechanical and electrical engineers).
Several of the wives in our department are teachers here. At the recent Christmas party some of the conversations were about work and students and funding as it has been in the news. These people all care about what they do. They think it is important. I'm sure there are school districts where an overhaul is needed. But to just blame teachers for all the ills is misguided and wrong.

 

[Cephus]

This right here ^

The school is so addicted to leaching to each kid and sucking money out of the system. Most the foolish teachers sit there yelling at bad kids and clicking away on their computer playing solitaire. Kid gets kicked out of 5 classes and over half of them get F's and D's and they just keep the train going full speed. All aboard. None may leave. Choo-Choo.

Needs to be a way to incentivize actually getting the bad apples out of school instead of the disctrict using it as a cash farm thats not really doing anything exccept making sure kids sit and do nothing for 8 hours a day.

Heres a thought... instead of making the kids read 20 pages a day while u sit there jerkin off under the table get up and read the book for them and stop and give ur opinions here and there and turnt he classroom into a conversation.

That's the problem, by law they CAN'T get the bad apples out of school, unless those bad apples go to jail, I guess. Don't like that? Get the law changed. Then what are you going to do with them?

 

[Cephus]

This is where I disagree with no child left behind. Sometimes, the student needs to be left behind. The whole "you can bring a child to school but can't force him to think" sorta thing.

Which is fine, but what do you do with them?

 

[Praxas]

Which is fine, but what do you do with them?

Remedial classes or in the case of the bad apples, expulsion. At the very least, I think separation from other classes is needed. Of course that goes without saying that the whole evaluation process of schools needs to be changed, because otherwise admins would just expel students that weren't doing good on national tests. I just know what it is like to be in classes where you have bad apples.

 

[Cephus]

Remedial classes or in the case of the bad apples, expulsion. At the very least, I think separation from other classes is needed. Of course that goes without saying that the whole evaluation process of schools needs to be changed, because otherwise admins would just expel students that weren't doing good on national tests. I just know what it is like to be in classes where you have bad apples.

But that still doesn't answer what you do with these bad apples you've expelled. What does society do with them? You can't just pretend they're not there.

 

[Fishking]

Nope. Could just have easily been his fault.

But we live in the day and age of snowflakery, thus it is never the student's fault. :roll:

The irony of your statement is totally delicious.