Mueller calls back at least one participant in key meeting with Russians at Trump Tower - LA Times

JacksinPA · Jan 8, 2018

trouble13 said:
Ehat action are you arguing impeded the investigation? Firing comey?

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He obstructed justice twice: when he asked Comey to drop his investigation of Comey, and when he fired Comey for not complying.

Obstruction of justice

Obstruction of justice is defined in the omnibus clause of 18 U.S.C. § 1503, which provides that "whoever . . . . corruptly or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication, influences, obstructs, or impedes, or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede, the due administration of justice, shall be (guilty of an offense)." Persons are charged under this statute based on allegations that a defendant intended to intefere with an official proceeding, by doing things such as destroying evidence, or intefering with the duties of jurors or court officers.

Definition of corruptly (legal): Corruptly act means to act knowingly and dishonestly with the specific intent to subvert or undermine the integrity of something. (https://definitions.uslegal.com/c/corruptly-act/)

Definition of impede (legal): impede verb annul, arrest, barricade, be a drag on, be an obstacle to, be in the way, block, blockade, bolt, bother, brake, bring to a standstill, burden, cause to delay, check, circumscribe, confine, cramp, cumber, curb, dam up, decelerate, delay, detain, deter, disable, drag, embarrass, encumber, erect a barrier, estop, fetter, foreclose, hamper, handicap, hinder, hold back, hold in check, hold up, impair, impedire, incommode, inconvenience, interfere, interrupt, keep back, keep in check, limit, load, mar, obstruct, paralyze, postpone, preclude, press, prevent, quell, restrain, restrict, retard, set one back, shackle, slacken, slow down, stalemate, stand in the way, stay, stop, stop in progress by hindrances, suffocate, suspend, thwart, trammel, turn aside

trouble13 · Jan 8, 2018

JacksinPA said:
He obstructed justice twice: when he asked Comey to drop his investigation of Comey, and when he fired Comey for not complying.

Obstruction of justice

Obstruction of justice is defined in the omnibus clause of 18 U.S.C. § 1503, which provides that "whoever . . . . corruptly or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication, influences, obstructs, or impedes, or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede, the due administration of justice, shall be (guilty of an offense)." Persons are charged under this statute based on allegations that a defendant intended to intefere with an official proceeding, by doing things such as destroying evidence, or intefering with the duties of jurors or court officers.

Definition of corruptly (legal): Corruptly act means to act knowingly and dishonestly with the specific intent to subvert or undermine the integrity of something. (https://definitions.uslegal.com/c/corruptly-act/)

Rather than copy and pasting the legal definition of obstruction I wish you would take the time to read it and understand it. Neither of those things are obstruction.

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Athanasius68 · Jan 8, 2018

Fenton said:
Bruce Ohr is a critical player in a growing scandal. Thats not only breaking news, its a big deal. Bruce Ohr's and his wife are connected to Fusion GPS and the dossier, the dossier was used to bolster the FBIs Russia investigation and to obtain FISA warrants to monitor the political opposition.

His second demotion more than suggest that the dossier has become really toxic, and it suggest more and even bigger news is on the way.

I dont think we should get too carried away by the dossier.

Tangmo · Jan 8, 2018

Fenton said:
:lamo

DOJ official who concealed meetings with Trump dossier figures loses another job title
DOJ official who concealed meetings with Trump dossier figures loses another job title | Fox News

Bruce Ohrs gets demoted AGAIN ? Well of-course

Fenton said:
Bruce Ohr is a critical player in a growing scandal. Thats not only breaking news, its a big deal. Bruce Ohr's and his wife are connected to Fusion GPS and the dossier, the dossier was used to bolster the FBIs Russia investigation and to obtain FISA warrants to monitor the political opposition.

His second demotion more than suggest that the dossier has become really toxic, and it suggest more and even bigger news is on the way.

The biggest news is that Trump has to testify under oath to Mueller and that the two sides have now begun negotiating it. The news is big, bigger and biggest. The best.

Yet the rightwhinge keeps yanking open a line of curtains. And all they find are big empty spaces. I still can't figure whether youse might be selling curtains or space. This is happening in the House.

It's the Senate investigating committee that maintains mostly radio silence and which appears to stay focused on, well, collusion, conspiracy, obstruction by Trump and the Putin intrusions. The only House committee holding its water for the Mueller report when it is made is the Trey Gowdy committee. Rep. Gowdy of SC says to let Mueller proceed. Gowdy is the former prosecutor who is pretty much ignoring or avoiding the glitzy and noisy side shows. He seems to have his eye on the main offices. “I have defended Mueller from Day One, and you won’t find anything to the contrary,” Rep. Trey Gowdy says repeatedly.

George Papadoupolos has already pleaded guilty to spilling the beans. AG Jefferson B. Sessions is meanwhile doing what he does at DoJ to please both the House Republicans and the Republicans in the White House starting with you know who. A long list at DoJ have exited since early last year to include Sally Yates, Andrew McCabe the deputy director of FBI among others. James Baker the FBI general counsel appointed by Comey is being reassigned. Lots of people at DoJ are getting moved in, up, down, around or out.

Fenton · Jan 8, 2018

Athanasius68 said:
I dont think we should get too carried away by the dossier.

Its a little late for that.

Multiple Left wing Media sources were reporting back in April that Senior US intelligence official were taking the " explosive " allegations in the dossier very seriously

The dossier was also included in classified breifings to Congress and CNN reported it was used bolster the investigation and to obtain FISA warrants.

The allegations in the dossier were also distributed to reporters by Christopher Steele on the orders of Glenn Simpson

What we didnt know at the time is that it was Hillary campaign and DNC funded unverified opposition research.

Now, the same media outlets are trying to claim that it was George Popadopolis drunken admission to a Australian diplomat that triggered the investigation.
That the dossier had far less influence than previously reported.

How stupid do they think their readers are.

JacksinPA · Jan 8, 2018

trouble13 said:
Rather than copy and pasting the legal definition of obstruction I wish you would take the time to read it and understand it. Neither of those things are obstruction.

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What states did you pass the Bar in?

haymarket · Jan 8, 2018

Athanasius68 said:
Its probably the first meeting Clinton held with Russia after being confirmed as Sec of State. She is holding her famous reset button (modelled after the reset button made popular at the time in the Staples commetcial).
A Russian reset was needed, as per the Dems, due to the difficultness and unreasonableness of the Bush Admin toward Russia.

The Secretary of State meeting with a Russian official all above board and open for a press photo. Got it.

Fenton · Jan 8, 2018

Tangmo said:
The biggest news is that Trump has to testify under oath to Mueller and that the two sides have now begun negotiating it. The news is big, bigger and biggest. The best.

Yet the rightwhinge keeps yanking open a line of curtains. And all they find are big empty spaces. I still can't figure whether youse might be selling curtains or space. This is happening in the House.

It's the Senate investigating committee that maintains mostly radio silence and which appears to stay focused on, well, collusion, conspiracy, obstruction by Trump and the Putin intrusions. The only House committee holding its water for the Mueller report when it is made is the Trey Gowdy committee. Rep. Gowdy of SC says to let Mueller proceed. Gowdy is the former prosecutor who is pretty much ignoring or avoiding the glitzy and noisy side shows. He seems to have his eye on the main offices. “I have defended Mueller from Day One, and you won’t find anything to the contrary,” Rep. Trey Gowdy says repeatedly.

George Papadoupolos has already pleaded guilty to spilling the beans. AG Jefferson B. Sessions is meanwhile doing what he does at DoJ to please both the House Republicans and the Republicans in the White House starting with you know who. A long list at DoJ have exited since early last year to include Sally Yates, Andrew McCabe the deputy director of FBI among others. James Baker the FBI general counsel appointed by Comey is being reassigned. Lots of people at DoJ are getting moved in, up, down, around or out.

Ill take all of that with a grain of salt considering its coming from a poster who switches from collusion to obstruction based on MSNBC's daily talking points.

Youv'e been predicting Trumps indictment / impeachment for what ? A year now ?
Lets just say no one's holding their breaths waiting for your predictions to come true.

Your news is partisan propaganda, always has been. Posting partisan anti-Trump garbage is what your'e known for around here.

Bruce Ohr was deputy assisant AG under Obama, and had direct contact with Christopher Steele and the dossier. His wife also worked for Fusion GPS.

Its no coincidence that this second demotion follows the release of Fusion GPSs bank records to the House Intel commiteee and the DOJs decision to submit all subpoenaed documents to the House oversight commitee.

Bruce Ohr ties the dossier to Obama's DOJ. That is the DOJ was working with the Hillary campaign and the DNC to compile unsubtantiated anti-Trump oppo-research that was then used to obtain FISA warrants.

Thats the REAL news. Imagine whats the IG reports going to contain. Michael Horrowitz is supposed to be wrapping up by the end of this month

Dont worry, Ill keep you updated

MovingPictures · Jan 8, 2018

Fenton said:
Ill take all of that with a grain of salt considering its coming from a poster who switches from collusion to obstruction based on MSNBC's daily talking points.

Youv'e been predicting Trumps indictment / impeachment for what ? A year now ?
Lets just say no one's holding their breaths waiting for your predictions to come true.

Your news is partisan propaganda, always has been. Posting partisan anti-Trump garbage is what your'e known for around here.

Fenton, you're the butt of jokes around her because your track record of posting alternative reality Trumpist nonsense is so extensive, so you really shouldn't be throwing stones at all.

EnigmaO01 · Jan 8, 2018

Fruityfact said:
If Trump is the hill they want to die, so be it: let them lose as many seats in the house and senate as possible.

You have more faith in the average voter than I do to be intelligent and not be manipulated.

Tangmo · Jan 9, 2018

Fenton said:
Ill take all of that with a grain of salt considering its coming from a poster who switches from collusion to obstruction based on MSNBC's daily talking points.

Youv'e been predicting Trumps indictment / impeachment for what ? A year now ?
Lets just say no one's holding their breaths waiting for your predictions to come true.

Your news is partisan propaganda, always has been. Posting partisan anti-Trump garbage is what your'e known for around here.

Bruce Ohr was deputy assisant AG under Obama, and had direct contact with Christopher Steele and the dossier. His wife also worked for Fusion GPS.

Its no coincidence that this second demotion follows the release of Fusion GPSs bank records to the House Intel commiteee and the DOJs decision to submit all subpoenaed documents to the House oversight commitee.

Bruce Ohr ties the dossier to Obama's DOJ. That is the DOJ was working with the Hillary campaign and the DNC to compile unsubtantiated anti-Trump oppo-research that was then used to obtain FISA warrants.

Thats the REAL news. Imagine whats the IG reports going to contain. Michael Horrowitz is supposed to be wrapping up by the end of this month

Dont worry, Ill keep you updated

That works both wayz of course.

Few people to include myself see impeachment by the present House. So you're grabbing out of the air stereotypical political opponents. I'd made some references to unindicted co-conspiritor as the Nixon grand jury put it but it is not a major point yet in this and I've hardly referenced it.

One notices in scrolling the video clip about election night in 2016. Trump yesterday was himself talking again about his electoral college count to the national Farm Bureau meeting in Tennessee so it could seem more than possible one digression flows from the other.

What we see is Trump uber alles. Trump, nothing but and nothing more or less than Trump. Donald Trump. Preserve, protect, defend, Donald Trump. Nothing else matters. Whether it might be because Trump is a Republican or that Trump is Trump, it's all about Trump. What is unmistakable is you're about Trump entirely, completely, aggressively, fiercely, irreversibly, endlessly.

If Donald Trump wants the USA to be more like Putin's Russia than the other way around, then so be it as far as your posts are concerned. It's Donald Trump all the way on everything. It's all that matters.

Fenton · Jan 9, 2018

MovingPictures said:
Fenton, you're the butt of jokes around her because your track record of posting alternative reality Trumpist nonsense is so extensive, so you really shouldn't be throwing stones at all.

Oh I really doubt that. Everyone knows angry Trump obsessed Liberals dont have a sense of humor.

Fenton · Jan 9, 2018

Tangmo said:
That works both wayz of course.

Few people to include myself see impeachment by the present House. So you're grabbing out of the air stereotypical political opponents. I'd made some references to unindicted co-conspiritor as the Nixon grand jury put it but it is not a major point yet in this and I've hardly referenced it.

One notices in scrolling the video clip about election night in 2016. Trump yesterday was himself talking again about his electoral college count to the national Farm Bureau meeting in Tennessee so it could seem more than possible one digression flows from the other.

What we see is Trump uber alles. Trump, nothing but and nothing more or less than Trump. Donald Trump. Preserve, protect, defend, Donald Trump. Nothing else matters. Whether it might be because Trump is a Republican or that Trump is Trump, it's all about Trump. What is unmistakable is you're about Trump entirely, completely, aggressively, fiercely, irreversibly, endlessly.

If Donald Trump wants the USA to be more like Putin's Russia than the other way around, then so be it as far as your posts are concerned. It's Donald Trump all the way on everything. It's all that matters.

Obama moved this Nation more towards a Nation resembling Putins Russia then any previous President before him.

Under Obama there was uprecedented, corruption, abuse of power, a lack of transparency, and cronyism.

For example, Obama's DOJ charged a Journalist as a criminal co-conspirator under the 1922 Espionage Act DOJthey could hack into his phone records and Emails

When a local reporter exposed the tarmac meeting with Lynch and Bill, the FBI under Obams was far more concerned with locating and silencing the reporter than they were with the meeting.

Most posters who litter this forum with anti-Ttump propaganda, and who call for Trumps impeachment were unconditional Obama supporters. With every post they show their arrogance and hypocrisy and total lack of principle

Tangmo · Jan 9, 2018

Fenton said:
Obama moved this Nation more towards a Nation resembling Putins Russia then any previous President before him.

Under Obama there was uprecedented, corruption, abuse of power, a lack of transparency, and cronyism.

For example, Obama's DOJ charged a Journalist as a criminal co-conspirator under the 1922 Espionage Act DOJthey could hack into his phone records and Emails

When a local reporter exposed the tarmac meeting with Lynch and Bill, the FBI under Obams was far more concerned with locating and silencing the reporter than they were with the meeting.

Most posters who litter this forum with anti-Ttump propaganda, and who call for Trumps impeachment were unconditional Obama supporters. With every post they show their arrogance and hypocrisy and total lack of principle

Jeez you get fast and careless when you're not itemizing a desperate defense of Trump. No matter however because the stuff in the post is readily disposed of. No journalists were charged under the Espionage Age by the Obama administration and no journalists were charged with anything period.

So let's start in the present with Trump Him Self....

The Justice Department under Jeff Sessions has indicated it intends to seek Assange’s arrest, and when asked about the potential for the Trump administration to use any WikiLeaks precedent against other news organizations, Sessions refused to rule it out.

This, coupled with the report that President Trump allegedly told FBI director James Comey in a private meeting that he wanted the FBI to “jail journalists” who reported on leaked information has worried many in the press freedom world that Trump may finally go where others have been unwilling or unable to: an actual prosecution of a journalist under the Espionage Act.

https://freedom.press/news/obama-us...s-sources-jail-and-trump-could-be-even-worse/

Assange is an America hater foreigner and Putin Wikileaks propagandist, not a journalist. Putin gave Assange a television talk show in Moscow broadcast nationally and that ended when Swedish police began hunting for him. Assange's purpose is to bring down the USA via Wikileaks in favor of Putin and his regime to include the demise of Europe under Putin's machinations and effective control.

That said let's move on concerning the then Potus Obama. The Fox guy was not charged under the Espionage Act. Nor was any journalist (or otherwise) charged under the Espionage Act of 1917.

Congress and the intelligence agencies pressured OB to crack down on leaks by intelligence personnel so the hammer came down on Chelsea Manning and Julian Assange, Edward Snowdon, Thomas Drake, Stephen Kim and several other egoists. The then AG Eric Holder did in fact confirm his rethink of the "co-conspirator" term against the Fox guy Rosen who was never charged.

The Phoenix airport tarmac meeting reporter of AG Lynch and Bill Clinton was never silenced by government or anyone else. Reporter Christopher Sign suffered nothing and has in fact become famous for breaking the story due to his excellent and astute sources at the airport.

Putin hated Obama and Putin praises Trump. Putin owns Trump. The first and foremost thing I want to know is whether Putin or his oligarchs bought Trump's Deutsche Bank debt. I reference any one of the Trumps' debts at Deutsche Bank or all of the Trumps and their debts at Deutsche Bank. We know already of the Trumps desperation over a score of years to find creditors either in the USA or abroad and that Deutsche Bank is a global sleaze banking operation that does volume business with corrupt Russians and their money bags to include Putin operatives such as Paul Manafort.

Fenton · Jan 9, 2018

Tangmo said:
Jeez you get fast and careless when you're not itemizing a desperate defense of Trump. No matter however because the stuff in the post is readily disposed of. No journalists were charged under the Espionage Age by the Obama administration and no journalists were charged with anything period.

So let's start in the present with Trump Him Self....

The Justice Department under Jeff Sessions has indicated it intends to seek Assange’s arrest, and when asked about the potential for the Trump administration to use any WikiLeaks precedent against other news organizations, Sessions refused to rule it out.

This, coupled with the report that President Trump allegedly told FBI director James Comey in a private meeting that he wanted the FBI to “jail journalists” who reported on leaked information has worried many in the press freedom world that Trump may finally go where others have been unwilling or unable to: an actual prosecution of a journalist under the Espionage Act.

https://freedom.press/news/obama-us...s-sources-jail-and-trump-could-be-even-worse/

Assange is an America hater foreigner and Putin Wikileaks propagandist, not a journalist. Putin gave Assange a television talk show in Moscow broadcast nationally and that ended when Swedish police began hunting for him. Assange's purpose is to bring down the USA via Wikileaks in favor of Putin and his regime to include the demise of Europe under Putin's machinations and effective control.

That said let's move on concerning the then Potus Obama. The Fox guy was not charged under the Espionage Act. Nor was any journalist (or otherwise) charged under the Espionage Act of 1917.

Congress and the intelligence agencies pressured OB to crack down on leaks by intelligence personnel so the hammer came down on Chelsea Manning and Julian Assange, Edward Snowdon, Thomas Drake, Stephen Kim and several other egoists. The then AG Eric Holder did in fact confirm his rethink of the "co-conspirator" term against the Fox guy Rosen who was never charged.

The Phoenix airport tarmac meeting reporter of AG Lynch and Bill Clinton was never silenced by government or anyone else. Reporter Christopher Sign suffered nothing and has in fact become famous for breaking the story due to his excellent and astute sources at the airport.

Putin hated Obama and Putin praises Trump. Putin owns Trump. The first and foremost thing I want to know is whether Putin or his oligarchs bought Trump's Deutsche Bank debt. I reference any one of the Trumps' debts at Deutsche Bank or all of the Trumps and their debts at Deutsche Bank. We know already of the Trumps desperation over a score of years to find creditors either in the USA or abroad and that Deutsche Bank is a global sleaze banking operation that does volume business with corrupt Russians and their money bags to include Putin operatives such as Paul Manafort.

I never said Journalist were charged, James Rosen was named as a criminal co-conspirator in the DOJs case against Jin-Woo-Kim, a State Dept employee over a story about North Korea's nuclear program.. ..
https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/...-fox-news-reporter-james-rosen-134204299.html

Rosens emails and phone records were hacked as were the phone records of 20 AP reporters.

Is Eric Holder " re-thinking " his decsion to name Rosen as a criminal co-conspirator after the fact justify spying on journalist ?

These are facts whether you want to beleive them or not.

The Obama FBI DID seek out the journalist or person that leaked the tarmac meeting.

Judicial Watch ( Isnt Judicial watch fantastic ? Lol !!! ) obtained documents that show the FBI was far more concerned with finding the leaker than the ethics violations the meeting represented.

https://m.theepochtimes.com/obama-f...-tarmac-meeting-documents-reveal_2371644.html

And Paul Manaforts crimes have far more to do with the Podesta Group than they do with Russian conspiracy false narrative

The Left had to move onto Popadopolis when Manforts indictment crushed their hopes of impeachment.

Speaking of Popadopolis, the NYTs has manufactured a new narrative and kindly informed their readers that the dossier wasnt as influential as was first reported

Do they think their readers are idiots ? ARE their readers idiots ? Because you would have to be a idiot to buy into that garbage the printed a couple of weeks ago.

Their hillarious attempt to reframe the false narrative shows just how toxic the dossier has become ( for Democrats )

So does Bruce Ohr's second demotiom

Tangmo · Jan 9, 2018

Fenton said:
I never said Journalist were charged, James Rosen was named as a criminal co-conspirator in the DOJs case against Jin-Woo-Kim, a State Dept employee over a story about North Korea's nuclear program.. ..
https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/...-fox-news-reporter-james-rosen-134204299.html

Rosens emails and phone records were hacked as were the phone records of 20 AP reporters.

Is Eric Holder " re-thinking " his decsion to name Rosen as a criminal co-conspirator after the fact justify spying on journalist ?

These are facts whether you want to beleive them or not.

The Obama FBI DID seek out the journalist or person that leaked the tarmac meeting.

Judicial Watch ( Isnt Judicial watch fantastic ? Lol !!! ) obtained documents that show the FBI was far more concerned with finding the leaker than the ethics violations the meeting represented.

https://m.theepochtimes.com/obama-f...-tarmac-meeting-documents-reveal_2371644.html

And Paul Manaforts crimes have far more to do with the Podesta Group than they do with Russian conspiracy false narrative

The Left had to move onto Popadopolis when Manforts indictment crushed their hopes of impeachment.

Speaking of Popadopolis, the NYTs has manufactured a new narrative and kindly informed their readers that the dossier wasnt as influential as was first reported

Do they think their readers are idiots ? ARE their readers idiots ? Because you would have to be a idiot to buy into that garbage the printed a couple of weeks ago.

Their hillarious attempt to reframe the false narrative shows just how toxic the dossier has become ( for Democrats )

So does Bruce Ohr's second demotiom

The dossier and Bruce Ohr are peanuts. The elephant in your room is Trump. The elephant trainer is Putin....

Trump to Comey: Throw journalists in jail

President Donald Trump told then-FBI Director James Comey he should throw journalists in jail during the same meeting in which he asked Comey to end the investigation into former national security adviser Michael Flynn, a source close to Comey has told CNN.

In the February 14 meeting in the Oval Office, Trump expressed frustration about news stories detailing his private conversations with the leaders of Mexico and Australia the previous month, saying Comey needed to go after the leakers, the source said.

When Comey tried to explain to the President that leak investigations are difficult to pursue because law enforcement officers often end up having to threaten to jail journalists, Trump said he should throw the journalists in jail, the source said.

The White House has declined to comment on the President's remarks to Comey.

Trump to Comey: Throw journalists in jail - CNNPolitics

The WH didn't say anything because it already had its foot in its mouth.

Fenton · Jan 9, 2018

Tangmo said:
The dossier and Bruce Ohr are peanuts. The elephant in your room is Trump. The elephant trainer is Putin....

Trump to Comey: Throw journalists in jail

President Donald Trump told then-FBI Director James Comey he should throw journalists in jail during the same meeting in which he asked Comey to end the investigation into former national security adviser Michael Flynn, a source close to Comey has told CNN.

In the February 14 meeting in the Oval Office, Trump expressed frustration about news stories detailing his private conversations with the leaders of Mexico and Australia the previous month, saying Comey needed to go after the leakers, the source said.

When Comey tried to explain to the President that leak investigations are difficult to pursue because law enforcement officers often end up having to threaten to jail journalists, Trump said he should throw the journalists in jail, the source said.

The White House has declined to comment on the President's remarks to Comey.

Trump to Comey: Throw journalists in jail - CNNPolitics

The WH didn't say anything because it already had its foot in its mouth.

Hey, " Breaking News " !

The House Intel Commitee finallly have access to the FBIs and the DOJs dossier documents

These documents include but are not limited to documents FD-302 and document FD - 1032 that are directly related to the Steele dossier

Nunez also gained access to the FBIs FISA submittals.

Hey, do you think the news about Bruce Ohr being demoted again relates to the House intel commitee getting a hold of these documemts ?

I sure do

House committee gets access to long-sought Trump dossier records | Fox News

Fruityfact · Jan 9, 2018

EnigmaO01 said:
You have more faith in the average voter than I do to be intelligent and not be manipulated.

I have lost my faith in republican voters. They either support Trump, or idly sit by while he actively ruins our country. This is not true of the entire republican voting block, but enough "conservatives" simply dismiss facts in favor of their own narrative and ideology. Until proven otherwise, they have lost my faith.

However, I have not lost faith in this country. Enough people have the realization or the gut feeling that the country is not on the right course. There's needs to be a large negative feedback correction back onto the right track(coincidentally away from right wing policies). Given the chance, I think the American people will deliver this time around by voting. Hillary lost because not enough people voted for the agenda they support. I believe that will change this time around(specifically 2018 and 2020).

SirGareth · Jan 9, 2018

haymarket said:
So you cannot provide the information so that the photo can be examined and judged appropriately. Got it.

Before I go to the trouble of educating you just what is it that you doubt?

Tangmo · Jan 9, 2018

Fenton said:
Hey, " Breaking News " !

The House Intel Commitee finallly have access to the FBIs and the DOJs dossier documents

These documents include but are not limited to documents FD-302 and document FD - 1032 that are directly related to the Steele dossier

Nunez also gained access to the FBIs FISA submittals.

Hey, do you think the news about Bruce Ohr being demoted again relates to the House intel commitee getting a hold of these documemts ?

I sure do

House committee gets access to long-sought Trump dossier records | Fox News

The mass of the highly financed and ideologically staffed up right wing media have zero credibility in this for two reasons primarily:

1) They dismiss and deny arbitrarily and summarily the known Russia connection in the 2016 election of Potus and ongoing forward, indefinitely;

2) They propagandize for Trump full time because they support Trump in the absolute. To the right wing to include the majority of Republicans Potus Donald Trump is their decades-long dream come true. Trump can do no wrong against the evil and wicked opposition which Trump offends gleefully. The 21st century right which places itself above the Constitution supported Roy Moore because god sent him and because the lord works in strange ways -- which proves the God of the Right is a nutcase too. After all he made youse in his image.

That seems to be it in a nutshell.

haymarket · Jan 9, 2018

SirGareth said:
Before I go to the trouble of educating you just what is it that you doubt? View attachment 67226932

I have no idea what you point was in posting the photograph.

EnigmaO01 · Jan 9, 2018

Fruityfact said:
I have lost my faith in republican voters. They either support Trump, or idly sit by while he actively ruins our country. This is not true of the entire republican voting block, but enough "conservatives" simply dismiss facts in favor of their own narrative and ideology. Until proven otherwise, they have lost my faith.

However, I have not lost faith in this country. Enough people have the realization or the gut feeling that the country is not on the right course. There's needs to be a large negative feedback correction back onto the right track(coincidentally away from right wing policies). Given the chance, I think the American people will deliver this time around by voting. Hillary lost because not enough people voted for the agenda they support. I believe that will change this time around(specifically 2018 and 2020).

I hope you're right.

SirGareth · Jan 10, 2018

Fruityfact said:
I have lost my faith in republican voters. They either support Trump, or idly sit by while he actively ruins our country. This is not true of the entire republican voting block, but enough "conservatives" simply dismiss facts in favor of their own narrative and ideology. Until proven otherwise, they have lost my faith.

However, I have not lost faith in this country. Enough people have the realization or the gut feeling that the country is not on the right course. There's needs to be a large negative feedback correction back onto the right track(coincidentally away from right wing policies). Given the chance, I think the American people will deliver this time around by voting. Hillary lost because not enough people voted for the agenda they support. I believe that will change this time around(specifically 2018 and 2020).

So the "right track" is bigger more intrusive government running our lives? This is "progress?"

SirGareth · Jan 10, 2018

haymarket said:
I have no idea what you point was in posting the photograph.

Do you know who Hillary was pictured "colluding" with?

Thats right, she was both "colluding" and taking hundreds of millions in clinton cash for her benefit from the enemy.

haymarket · Jan 10, 2018

SirGareth said:
Do you know who Hillary was pictured "colluding" with?

Thats right, she was both "colluding" and taking hundreds of millions in clinton cash for her benefit from the enemy.

Again, where was that photo taken, when was it taken, what was the occasion and why is it important?

Mueller calls back at least one participant in key meeting with Russians at Trump Tower - LA Times

WE'LL DO IT LIVE!