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Judge: House panel entitled to Fusion GPS bank records

MovingPictures said:
Why exactly does the GOP need these records? Yes, the Steele report had Democratic funding, which is in no way illegal, nor does that have anything to do with the veracity of it's findings.

If this the best card the GOP can play, they're screwed.
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Well, Christopher Steele may have lied to the FBI, and may just face criminal charges for it. The 'veracity' you spoke of isn't looking so hot right now.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Odd that neither the GOP House nor the GOP Senate investigative committee's have subpoenaed pertinent financial records from Deutsche Bank which laundered billions for Russian oligarchs and where Trump went for funding when no US banks would do business with Trump due to his many bankruptcies. Seems Republicans want certain Trumpian 'deals' to remain hidden.

Thankfully, SC Mueller subpoenaed the Deutsche Bank records.
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Mueller has already done it. Are you saying that Mueller can't be trusted?
 
Chomsky said:
And what is the criminal charge here?

It sounds like Graham has sold-out to Trump.
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Giving false testimony to the FBI. Graham and Grassley in their investigation gathered evidence against Steele. They turned over their evidence to the DOJ requesting a criminal investigation.
 
Deuce said:
I'm not sure why you guys think this is such a big deal. Is their information valid or not valid based on who pays them?
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Funny, don't remember you asking that question regarding a certain Trump Tower meeting.

As I advise Tres, just swap "Trump Campaign" and "Clinton Campaign" if you are having trouble grasping simple legal concepts.

"Trump campaign, DOJ and FBI sought opposition research on Clinton Campaign through funding a third party foreign agents and Russian officials and used the dossier to get warrants on Clinton campaign staff. Text messages show the agent in charge of the investigation discussing their desire to stop Hillary from being president."
 
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jmotivator said:
Funny, don't remember you asking that question regarding a certain Trump Tower meeting.

As I advise Tres, just swap "Trump Campaign" and "Clinton Campaign" if you are having trouble grasping simple legal concepts.

"Trump campaign, DOJ and FBI sought opposition research on Clinton Campaign through funding a third party foreign agents and Russian officials and used the dossier to get warrants on Clinton campaign staff. Text messages show the agent in charge of the investigation discussing their desire to stop Hillary from being president."
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Clinton campaign hires opposition research firm to get dirt on Trump. Legal.
Opposition firm uncovers criminal activity on part of Trump campaign, turns it over to FBI. Legal, and exactly what they should have done.
FBI adds this dossier to ongoing investigation into Trump campaign, seeks additional corroboration to the claims. Legal, and exactly what they should have done.
 
vesper said:
Giving false testimony to the FBI. Graham and Grassley in their investigation gathered evidence against Steele. They turned over their evidence to the DOJ requesting a criminal investigation.
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Ah, thanks.

I missed that, on my initial read.
 
Deuce said:
Clinton campaign hires opposition research firm to get dirt on Trump. Legal.
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Correct, as is the meeting between Trump Jr. and a Russian lawyer for the same reason. But that meeting is being pushed as the smoking gun by the conspiracy kooks.

Opposition firm uncovers criminal activity on part of Trump campaign, turns it over to FBI. Legal, and exactly what they should have done.
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If you buy the Papadopolous narrative then there is nothing in that dossier that the FBI didn't already suspect and the FBI, while funding at least part of the research, has claimed they couldn't corroborate any of it? Comey even went so far as to present Trump with a synopsis of the dossier, as Comey himself characterized it, as an example of the kind of smears that Trump would face as President. So how does a dossier that the FBI said had no substantiated claims wind up in from of the FISA court several months earlier?

The statements by Comey himself prove your narrative is bull****.

FBI adds this dossier to ongoing investigation into Trump campaign, seeks additional corroboration to the claims. Legal, and exactly what they should have done.
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The FBI has previously said they can't substantiate the contents of the dossier so claiming that they added it to evidence (that you assume exists) is more damning than it is exculpatory.
 
jmotivator said:
Correct, as is the meeting between Trump Jr. and a Russian lawyer for the same reason. But that meeting is being pushed as the smoking gun by the conspiracy kooks.



If you buy the Papadopolous narrative then there is nothing in that dossier that the FBI didn't already suspect and the FBI, while funding at least part of the research, has claimed they couldn't corroborate any of it? Comey even went so far as to present Trump with a synopsis of the dossier, as Comey himself characterized it, as an example of the kind of smears that Trump would face as President. So how does a dossier that the FBI said had no substantiated claims wind up in from of the FISA court several months earlier?

The statements by Comey himself prove your narrative is bull****.



The FBI has previously said they can't substantiate the contents of the dossier so claiming that they added it to evidence (that you assume exists) is more damning than it is exculpatory.
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Are you trying to claim the FBI has not corroborated anything in the dossier in any way?
 
Deuce said:
Clinton campaign hires opposition research firm to get dirt on Trump. Legal.
Opposition firm uncovers criminal activity on part of Trump campaign, turns it over to FBI. Legal, and exactly what they should have done.
FBI adds this dossier to ongoing investigation into Trump campaign, seeks additional corroboration to the claims. Legal, and exactly what they should have done.
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No, Christopher Steele did NOT uncover " criminal activity " on the Trump campaign. Steele's being sued for Libel in the UK, and in court records he was forced to admit the dossier was unverified and never meant for public consumption

He also claims Fusion GPS directed him to travel to Washington to brief reporters on the contents of the dossier

Ex-spy admits anti-Trump dossier unverified, blames Buzzfeed for publishing
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/25/christopher-steele-admits-dossier-charge-unverifie/
 
Deuce said:
Are you trying to claim the FBI has not corroborated anything in the dossier in any way?
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McCabe draws blank on Democrats’ funding of Trump dossier, new subpoenas planned
McCabe draws blank on Democrats? funding of Trump dossier, new subpoenas planned | Fox News

Andrew " Andy's Office " McCabe testified under oath that the only allegation corroborated was Page's trip to Moscow. When asked when he learned that the dossier was funded by the Hillary campaign and the DNC, he suddenly couldn't remember.
 
Fenton said:
No, Christopher Steele did NOT uncover " criminal activity " on the Trump campaign. Steele's being sued for Libel in the UK, and in court records he was forced to admit the dossier was unverified and never meant for public consumption

He also claims Fusion GPS directed him to travel to Washington to brief reporters on the contents of the dossier

Ex-spy admits anti-Trump dossier unverified, blames Buzzfeed for publishing
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/25/christopher-steele-admits-dossier-charge-unverifie/
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Ok, so he uncovered the possibility of alleged criminal activity that is potentially of interest to law enforcement. I was wrong, they totally should have just kept that info quiet and pretended they didn't find it.
 
Fenton said:

McCabe draws blank on Democrats’ funding of Trump dossier, new subpoenas planned
McCabe draws blank on Democrats? funding of Trump dossier, new subpoenas planned | Fox News

Andrew " Andy's Office " McCabe testified under oath that the only allegation corroborated was Page's trip to Moscow. When asked when he learned that the dossier was funded by the Hillary campaign and the DNC, he suddenly couldn't remember.
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Clever wording switch.

He only named one item. He didn't say that was the only item.

Follow-up question: do you think every single other item in the dossier is false?
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Wow. You really, desperately need to convince yourself that there's somehow, magically, a scandal in there somewhere.

And yet even with those links, you STILL can't offer anything of substance.
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Stupidest post of the entire thread. :2wave:

You are a liar and offer nothing of substance. Standard line of bull ****, each and every time the conversation doesn't go the way you want it to.. :roll:

Dude grow up and grow a pair. Fenton put you in your place for all to see...
 
Blkdirt Farmer said:
Stupidest post of the entire thread. :2wave:

You are a liar and offer nothing of substance. Standard line of bull ****, each and every time the conversation doesn't go the way you want it to.. :roll:

Dude grow up and grow a pair. Fenton put you in your place for all to see...
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Awwww... sorry this has you in rhetorical tears, but nothning he posted actually equates to substantive evidence of any scandal, nor can you or he demonstrate how it does.

Keep swinging for the fences. Not only is it hilarious to watch, but I'm sure you'll hit something, some day, sometime.
 
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