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Trump says Steve Bannon has 'lost his mind'

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Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump excoriated his former chief strategist Steve Bannon in a statement Wednesday, claiming that Bannon "lost his mind" after being pushed out from the White House.The White House released the strongly worded 266-word statement from the President slamming Bannon after after excerpts from a new book quoted Bannon as calling the meeting between a Russian lawyer and the President's eldest son, son-in-law Jared Kushner and then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort "treasonous" and "unpatriotic."
"Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my Presidency. When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind. Steve was a staffer who worked for me after I had already won the nomination by defeating 17 candidates, often described as the most talented field ever assembled in the Republican party," Trump said in the statement.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :lamo

This just gets better and better,
 
This is entertaining theater.
 
He was just a staffer, in fact I'm pretty sure he was in charge of keeping the TP stocked in the office. I'm not even sure who he was. Steve who?
 
Consider for a moment, Mr. President, could Bannon have been a lunatic all along?
 
Kobie said:
This is entertaining theater.
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No, it's embarrassing. Donald Trump private citizen? Sure, no problem. Donald Trump, US President? This should not be acceptable.
 
wolfsgirl said:
He was just a staffer, in fact I'm pretty sure he was in charge of keeping the TP stocked in the office. I'm not even sure who he was. Steve who?
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He made tea for the coffee boy as I recall...
 
Just for fun, I'm gonna take issue with this: "17 candidates, often described as the most talented field ever assembled in the Republican party". Anyone have a ranked list?
 
Slyfox696 said:
No, it's embarrassing. Donald Trump private citizen? Sure, no problem. Donald Trump, US President? This should not be acceptable.
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True, but it's what we've got. Might as well make lemonade out of the lemon since Republicans won't let us take him back to the car lot.
 
One of my biggest gripes and statements about Obama in the run up to 08 was essentially the notion of "who you keep around you" because it relates to the idea of judgement. It goes similarly with Trump. Bannon didn't suddenly change the kind of person he was, and he most certainly didn't "go insane". The interests of him and the interests of Trump simply verged apart at some point, and thus the two men...acting no different than they always have...went from close confidants to mudslinging enemies.

It's not about whether you believe Bannon now or not, or if you believed Bannon before or not. It has everything to do with judgement. This was a man that Trump put a lot of trust in, that Trump chose to trust to raise up to a high level of power, who now, less than a year later, he is suggesting is "insane". That says as much, if not more, about Trump and his judgement then it does simply about Bannon.
 
ecofarm said:
Just for fun, I'm gonna take issue with this: "17 candidates, often described as the most talented field ever assembled in the Republican party". Anyone have a ranked list?
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Ted Cruz made the top 3, clearly the most talented field ever.
 
bearpoker said:
True, but it's what we've got. Might as well make lemonade out of the lemon since Republicans won't let us take him back to the car lot.
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One can work to change the power dynamic in Washington without finding glee in the irresponsible, irrational and embarrassing behavior of the President.
 
ecofarm said:
Consider for a moment, Mr. President, could Bannon have been a lunatic all along?
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He could have gone from "crazy like a fox" to just plain crazy. He did help Trump win the election against overwhelming odds.
 
shagg said:
Ted Cruz made the top 3, clearly the most talented field ever.
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Reagan and both Bush single-handedly constitute a more talented field.
 
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Zyphlin said:
One of my biggest gripes and statements about Obama in the run up to 08 was essentially the notion of "who you keep around you" because it relates to the idea of judgement. It goes similarly with Trump. Bannon didn't suddenly change the kind of person he was, and he most certainly didn't "go insane". The interests of him and the interests of Trump simply verged apart at some point, and thus the two men...acting no different than they always have...went from close confidants to mudslinging enemies.

It's not about whether you believe Bannon now or not, or if you believed Bannon before or not. It has everything to do with judgement. This was a man that Trump put a lot of trust in, that Trump chose to trust to raise up to a high level of power, who now, less than a year later, he is suggesting is "insane". That says as much, if not more, about Trump and his judgement then it does simply about Bannon.
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Or perhaps Bannon is a great strategy advisor for a campaign but was terrible as an advisor to a president. You see it all the time in the corporate field. A great salesman doesnt translate to a good manager of people.
 
reinoe said:
He could have gone from "crazy like a fox" to just plain crazy. He did help Trump win the election against overwhelming odds.
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Nah. The alt-right/Bannon-reading crowd is an insignificant, less than five percent, voting group. Bannon didn't carry popular appeal. Rhetoric ideas maybe, but not key. Bannon is a snake oil salesman, always has been as far as I know.
 
Zyphlin said:
One of my biggest gripes and statements about Obama in the run up to 08 was essentially the notion of "who you keep around you" because it relates to the idea of judgement. It goes similarly with Trump. Bannon didn't suddenly change the kind of person he was, and he most certainly didn't "go insane". The interests of him and the interests of Trump simply verged apart at some point, and thus the two men...acting no different than they always have...went from close confidants to mudslinging enemies.

It's not about whether you believe Bannon now or not, or if you believed Bannon before or not. It has everything to do with judgement. This was a man that Trump put a lot of trust in, that Trump chose to trust to raise up to a high level of power, who now, less than a year later, he is suggesting is "insane". That says as much, if not more, about Trump and his judgement then it does simply about Bannon.
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It seems to me that the better question now is:

Whither Breitbart?

Will it continue to back President Snow(flake), after Trump explicitly attacked Bannon like this?
 
Slyfox696 said:
No, it's embarrassing. Donald Trump private citizen? Sure, no problem. Donald Trump, US President? This should not be acceptable.
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I gave up a long time ago on Trump being anything other than a complete embarrassment. That ship has long sailed. Might as well take some pleasure in watching these wretched bastards turn on and eat each other.
 
ecofarm said:
Just for fun, I'm gonna take issue with this: "17 candidates, often described as the most talented field ever assembled in the Republican party". Anyone have a ranked list?
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Yeah, I didn’t see a ton of “talent” there.
 
Slyfox696 said:
One can work to change the power dynamic in Washington without finding glee in the irresponsible, irrational and embarrassing behavior of the President.
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I'm all for changing the power dynamic. We'll get to do that come November.
 
I pre-ordered "Fire and Fury" after reading the New York Magazine entry.

Some of it seems outlandish, much of it ridiculous, but totally believable given the people involved.

Some sources are claiming incorrect context with quotes, but plenty are also backing up his interview with them. Others are claiming that Bannon is bull****ting here or there or "delusional" in his thinking. The bit about Trump claiming to not know who Boehner was during the transition seems like a misplaced quote where the President was joking at the Speaker's fall from prominence rather than genuine ignorance--particularly when Trump had several encounters with Boehner (including his highly valued golf trips).


It feels too gossipy to in any way compare this to a Woodward book or an epilogue that could be found in the Teddy White series....but given what we have publicly seen from the administration, it doesnt seem to be something we can dismiss.

Whether this is a peak into Bannon's warped world or a decent-to-good insight toward the earliest of the administration, Wolff's book will perhaps have to be read by folks trying to understand it.

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